Early 2020, the novel Coronavirus, COVID-19 quickly spread around the globe. The pandemic changed the way we socialized, worked, and lived our lives. As it arrived in northern Italy, images of over-burdened hospitals quickly spread through Europe. The continent quickly realized that it must respond to the pandemic collectively if it wanted to stop the spread of the virus.
As member states were shutting their borders, halting almost all travel and trade, the EU set out on the seemingly impossible task to coordinate a response. The procurement and distribution of masks and other personal protection equipment was the first item on the agenda. Member states also helped one another by taking on patients from other countries or attempting to ease restrictions on cross-border workers.
The pandemic situation of lockdowns, remote work and social distancing measures went on, and the EU took the unprecedented step of collectively taking on debt to finance a recovery fund to cushion the blow to member states’ economies. EU member states also took the controversial decision to purchase vaccines as a collective, ensuring that all member states made equal progress in vaccinating their populations. Finally, the Green Certificates were introduced to prove vaccination, recovery, or negative test results for people across the EU, in an attempt to ease lockdown restrictions and reintroduce some form of normality into our daily lives.
While the EU undertook enormous efforts to respond to the pandemic, most actions, mainly restrictions of our daily professional and personal lives, were done on the national, or sometimes sub-national level. Sometimes, official recommendations or rules did not reflect the actions of politicians, as David from Hungary pointed out in our focus group “100 European Voices”:
The politicians didn’t set an example. Even members of the government and the prime minister, they were without the mask on the TV and on official pictures. People got confused.
Adam from Belgium felt that scientists were setting the rules:
The debate around personal freedoms and the protection of our communities did not stop at vaccines, which for most of Europe’s population is still voluntary. The low acceptance rate of the Covid vaccine is prolonging lockdown measures across Europe. Kevin from Belgium has a clear opinion on the vaccine:
To get a policymaker perspective, we asked the same questions that led our focus groups to members of the European Parliament from all political groups. Expand the cards below to find out what politicians think of the EU’s response to the pandemic:
In the beginning, we did not have enough sanitation equipment. And we had to overcome a lot of nationalistic tendencies in all countries. Secondly, there were issues with the pharmaceutical industry. The vaccinations in the EU were clearly delayed when compared with the United States, the UK and Israel, for example.
The delivery of vaccines was clearly not a show of force for Europe. However, I think the economic recovery after the lockdowns and sanitation measures has been quite good so far.
Curious to know more about the EU’s pandemic response and what young Europeans think about it? We’ve put together some facts and figures in the infographic below (click for a bigger version).
What do you think about the EU’s response to the pandemic? How has it compared to your own government’s response? What lessons do you hope politicians and governments learned for the next crisis? Let us know your thoughts in the comment section below!
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All corrupt!
1933
Our choice our bodies I’ve had it twice and it’s the flu still here you lying toe rags
Shaun Ward – Did the virus give you a choice about catching it twice?
Shaun Ward well said i am sure all the millions who aren.t here thought the same as you
Criminalises common cold! Repeal Coron.avirus Act NOW! Why do people think it was not called Covid19 Act if it was only for that strain??? They want to keep this bs going forever is why!
Laura King – Four sentences, four glaring errors based on your lack of understanding. That’s almost impressive.
Plandemic, Control, surveillance, cashless society, Stop lying to us
Don’t forget your not allowed an opinion, Might upset a few Delicate snowflakes
#dexit
The virus is fake
Virus that affects only old and fat…is treated like Ebola. Clearly too many people make a lot of money on this approach and politicians enjoy extra layers of control over society.
If it had never been on the news you wouldn’t know there was even an issue.
Paul Emmert agree
Paul Emmert exactly
Paul Emmert true. Hospitals have not been full at all. I know NOBODY who has been ill.
Paul Michael the only people I know who have been sick or died was since being jabbed. None of my unvaccinated friends have been sick.
Paul Emmert I mean unvaccinated people. Yes I know plenty of vaxxed who have been very ill including my 18 year old nephew. Coincidence I am sure. He literally has been in bed for 2 weeks, 1 week after his 1st jab. The previous 2 years He was never ill.
Paul Michael I wish people would put 2+2 together. This would all end instantly.
Paul Michael > Hospitals have not been full at all.If you want to show some evidence to establish such a claim then good luck to you. I would believe people who work in ICUs and hospital administrators though myself.> I know NOBODY who has been ill.No one cares about your anecdotal experience. It’s meaningless in the larger scheme of things.
Paul Michael > 1 week after his 1st jab.At the age of 18 years old it would take around two full weeks to make enough antibodies to have the basic level of resistance against covid.So at a week, and with only one vaccination he just didn’t have enough made yet.You seem to be under the mistaken impression that you’re instantly immune.
We Don’t Need luck, not all health workers are liars.
Paul Michael What you’re feeling is Survivorship bias.I’ve lost one relative & one family friend so far, from the Corona virus.Both nieces had it, but got through it.
All Fascist policies relating to this fake pandemic should be ignored on principle.
If you are complicit in driving this Plandemic/Scam/Crime Against Humanity you will face trial. So to promote maintaining lockdowns puts you (whoever you are) on The Nuremberg 2 List. Truth will out. Good will win over Evil!
Chester Bing l wish you were right, unfortunately it’s going to be like with Taliban winning and nobody even pointing at the culprits who supported them,Qatar ,but we are asked to pay the price.
Chester Bing – No they won’t because only conspiracy loons talk like this.
Stephen Taylor I think Conspiracy Theorists no longer exist. After all everything they said has come or is coming true. I think they prefer to be known as Critical Thinkers.
Tristan Trzesowski We must hope this time will be different.
Chester Bing > I think they prefer to be known as Critical Thinkers.They can prefer to be called anything they like, but if wishes were horses beggars would ride.Needless to say conspiracy theorists are nothing like the critical thinkers they believe themselves to be.
Chester Bing – Don’t worry – if you give more money away to some scam artist who makes Bitchute videos that tell you what you want to hear then I’m sure it’ll happen.Wait, no. The opposite.
Are you a critical thinker Stephen ?can you answer 2 questions ?1 -why are we having to be vaccinated to go abroad or go to events when someone with the vaccine can spread the virus the same as someone without it ?2-Why are politicians etc excempt from the rules ?if it was really about a virus surely there would be no exceptions for rich and powerfull people ?A virus has been used to implement changes to benefit govt and big business.
Gregor Cunningham – I think rationally, but I don’t make a big song and dance about it.1 – You’re incorrect, because vaccinated people do *not* spread the virus with the same level of potential as someone who is unvaccinated.Because you started from a false premise, the rest of your conclusion was incorrect. That’s why you’re in a position where it doesn’t make sense.2 > Why are politicians etc excempt from the rules I’m not defending any politicians. Although many are tested regular, so if you’re crying about seeing them occasionally doing photo-ops without masks it’s because everyone there has already been tested.Since you weren’t specific about this other than saying “politicians” I can’t be any more specific than that.> A virus has been used to implement changes to benefit govt and big business.The government and businesses are hemorrhaging money. Tell me how this claim of yours is supposed to work.
Wrong the govt advert tells you that you can still spread the virus after a vaccine so why the passport ?
OK cop 26 enviromental conference is being held in Glasgow with the thousands of participants excempt from the draconian rules we have lived under for a year and a half ?The so called virus must not strike during climate talks .
Are amazon and other big business losing money ?biggest wealth transfer in history.
Scamdemic
Maureen Linda Lo – You would have to understand it first.
Demi Siobhan Mcdermott Jones – Shame you have no idea how to interpret what you read on the internet, or you might have a point.
Stop this circus 21…we are not all stupids…
Fear is the virus and you are spreading it.
show faith in restrictions???? Are you guys totally off your bleedin rocker? It’s all utter horseshit and anyone who claims they work can be disproven with ease. Shame on you for distributing propaganda
Eric Jorrin > anyone who claims they work can be disproven with ease.In that case, kindly go forth prove that they don’t work and collect your Nobel Prize for Science, otherwise we can all assume you’re just another misinformed blowhard.
Shame you do what your accusing Me of stephen. Go k up the hierarchy of evidence when it comes to studies.Meta studies are not cherry picking. They’re the biggest studies avaliable and are literally combined studies. You could have a point though. If i said bbc and it was pro lockdown /social distancing, you’d be nodding ya head like a bobble dog.
Stephen Taylor you are brainwashed
Matt Driver Looking at his comments I suspect there was/is no brain there for washing
Matt Driver – Chemtrails are literally the low hanging fruit of conspiracy theories, believed only by the most imbecilic and brainless of the conspiracy loons.
Stephen Taylor wtf are you babbling about chemtrails.Care reply to my comment that showed how you dont have the first clue what you are ranting about
Will Kearney – Artists are often fine people and I hugely appreciate their creative contributions which enrich all of our lives. (You may be able to observe this from my profile picture.)It’s just such a pity so many are complete flakes when it comes to logical thinking.
Stephen Taylor LMAO you arent “fine people” you are a transparent charlatan. Proven by you avoiding facts. What “logical thinking” “Durrrrr you may be able to observe from my profile picture I’m a simp and a charlatan, excuse me while I avoid addressing your data to continue to be a shill” Okay brainwashed. But it shows you are brainwashed
Stephen Taylor let’s repeat it again for anyone reading to see what a dangerous liar you are and other like you —Nations and states with no/minimal lockdown and restrictions faired better or par than nations with even when population density and distribution is taken in account. Going by not just national/state/county stats, but expert staticians at stanford.Nations with the highest levels of shot rates— WELL ABOVE what your brainwashers claimed was necessary for shot induced “””herd immunity””— like iceland and israel, now going into more lockdowns. Showing BLATANTLY the lies you eat up “durrrrrr we have to get 75% of people to take this poison to get to hErD iMmUniTy ” >iceland reaches over 90%…… goes into more lockdowns as infections spike– Their Chief epidemiologist states there is no shot induced herd immunity. French Nobel prize winning virologist vindicated for his belief it was a lab made virus joins the scores of other stifled experts saying shots are causing the rise of newer deadlier strains through ADE.Let’s look into the numbers of the vastly inflated mortality. CDC data shows 80% were over 65. 95% had 3 comorbidities. Meaning the only people at any real risk are are the old and affiliated. What are they saying about your poison now??? It doesnt provide immunity, it doesnt stop infection, and vaxxed have as much viral load as unvaxxed. And only reduces severity of symptoms…….. of something that only is a threat to the old and unhealthy.That data is crystal clear. Cuck
Stephen Taylor “durrrrrr I’m am artist” bro your work is awful you arent an artist
Oh yes!! Lockdown the UK but leave the borders wide open, allow thousands of illegal economic migrants to stroll into the country with no health or security checks
Jon Overton exactly. Literally every day thousands coming in with no quarantine yet we are told there is a deadly pandemic. 20,000 more due any minute. Expect more lockdowns soon, all planned.
Paul Michael – The ‘all planned’ part is especially important to you, isn’t it?Because it’s far more reassuring to think that bad things only happen because someone made them happen.
Anyone who thinks the flu was a just reason to turn the country into North Korea is either brainwashed or a complete simpleton. All while hospital wards were lay empty for a year while cancer, addiction, sepsis patients were left untreated? I will happily fight anyone who supports ANY future liberty restrictions
Scotland’s Scenery – What a shame you couldn’t put all that misdirected energy into fighting the virus.
Scotland’s Scenery – I’ll add to my original comment, I think.So what happens when you have cancer patients with suppressed immune systems due to their treatments potentially exposed to large amounts of people in the same building as them with a new and easily communicable disease?They die in large numbers, brainbox.You won’t fight anything – all you’ll do is harm other people because your misinformed ideology is more important to you than they are.This also applies to the people who thought you were in anyway insightful.
I know hundreds of people who had Covid now (myself included), in my circles the only people who struggled to shake it were over 80 years old. It’s almost as if old people sometimes get old and die! Who would have thought? But i would miss all the TiKTok dance routines, very inventive way for healthcare workers to fill a 12 hour shift on an empty hospital ward.
Just from curiosity … you are one of this Scottish who consider independence as EU state run by Brussel officials ?
and deny 5 million their much needed hospital treatment.everything’s completely normal, keep watching the euros, the olympics, love island and other nonsense in between your propaganda streams at 6 and 10 pm.
YES to an Independent Scotland how can you say anyone has had covid when we know the testing is completely bogus?
You mean people who had a Positive scamtest.
Celeste Aguilar yep. bogus testing means NO evidence of any pandemic.
Paul Michael – The bogus thing about this is people talking about RT-PCR tests as if they had even the slightest idea of how they worked.
Paul Michael yeah, it tests positive with anything, even water, and even with nothing. Unused swabs.
Paul Michael Who’s we?
Celeste Aguilar That would be a false positive. You can get a false positive for opiates, if you take Creatine. Fortunately if grapefruit gives a positive reading, we know humans don’t secrete grapefruit juice; so it’s false positive.
Stephen Taylor Do you? if so, please enlighten us……..
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unused swabs have also tested positive.
You are actual demons. And people are waking up to this transparent depopulation agenda to lower fertility incrementally, while stripping rights and freedoms with globalist control
Let’s stick to the facts. Saves a lot of debating. And the measures don’t stop viruses circulating.
Biggest crime against humanity, abusing legislation to take our liberties away using blatant lies and outlawed coercion with NO limits. Crime ALL the way by CRIMINALS.
Politicians do not care about people. Democracy does not exist.
If you already have to start testing to know that someone is sick, then, these measures are totally unnecessary, because then they could also have done tests with the regular flu
i aint doing that wasting my life what a con 99pertcent recovery rate the evil jab killed my healthy fit mate no way
the crisis is the corrupt government, the liars of the MSM, the dirty multinationals and the gangster banks; all of them work together against us… but let’s focus on a non-existant disease…
Scamdemic
Stephen Taylor and EU doesn’t.
is this a cult? i think this is a cult
lockdowns are for another purpose, nothing to do with health, so many lies and so much corruption!
Darren Green to make us desperate enough to take whatever is in that ☠️⚰️
Alan Gordon and to get rid of independent businesses
scamtastic
Live in your pod, Eat your bugs
Never been locked downNever worn a maskNever been testedNever taking the arm juice.I do not comply.
Well done :)
Sarah Louise – No one cares.
Stephen Taylor I care. Don’t talk for others
This lot smells a lot like soros
Scamdemic
Iedereen gevangen houden in angst
… We Know it’s a hoax so imagine how ridiculous you look.
If studies showed they didn’t work, would you still push them?
Klaus Schwab is not my prophet, covid is not my religion. Lots of looney criminals in charge.
Living under health fascism is worse than living under the Taliban. I hope this taste of evil totalitarianism has taught people to appreciate our hard won freedoms and rights so that we never again allow them to be taken from us.
Wendy Harris > worse than living under the Taliban.Feel free to fly out to Afghanistan if you seriously believe such complete tosh.> our hard won freedoms and rights There is no freedom to irresponsibly spread disease. You freedoms end where everyone else’s freedoms begin.You also forget that freedom comes with responsibility.That’s why your idea of freedom so closely resembles selfish anarchism.
I take it you’re OK with Australian police firing rubber bullets and using tear gas on citizens who have a right to protest the kind of dictatorial fascism that people like you condone.I don’t see the Taliban imposing the kind of cruel restrictions currently being imposed in Western countries.The only disease that’s being spread is fear and shills like you are spreading it.Our hard won freedoms will not be taken away by self-obsessed cowards whose only real concern is their own self-preservation. There is a gene of bravery that will rise to the surface. You don’t have it. But many others do.
Haven’t you heard? Covid’s old hat. We on that Afghan hype now, bruh
D I C T A T O R S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Some of the comments on this thread are hilarious bordering on the psychotic
Oh boy are YOU in for a shock when reality hits…
Scott Freeman What kinda reality do you speak of
Scott Freeman a harsh one
Vi Coactus Anything in particular I should look out for or just random anecdotes
Alec Barrs https://www.google.com/search?q=anecdote&oq=anecdote&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i433i512j0i512l3.6213j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Alec Barrs yeah I’m pretty sure the comment I’d like to make would be “against community standards”. Let’s just say when it’s happening to you, you’ll know
Vi Coactus So you can’t make your point without annoying Facebook
Alec Barrs ooh! Solid burn! No, it seems not. But is that a surprise? So, let me get this straight, you think that book’s community standards are correct and balanced? Trollolol
Vi Coactus Nope. There, you see. We are agreeing already. We’ll apart from the name calling
Alec Barrs name calling? Ahahaha, here’s one… snowflake. I see the “lest we forget” filter on your pictures. So the question is, what have you forgotten?
Vi Coactus Troll, Snowflake, oh god. I’m going to cry in a minute
Alec Barrs you wouldn’t be cracking so wise if we were face to face. Let me assure you of that. I’ll say it again, because you’re cherry picking your responses, what have you forgotten?
Vi Coactus First name calling and now physical threats. Is that the way you always act when someone has the temerity to have a different point of view to yours ?
Alec Barrs what have you forgotten? That’s assuming that you ever knew it in the first place
Alec Barrs no, I’m normally a kind, reasonable man. But I do get triggered by barrack room clowns who think that the violation of medical freedoms is funny. You are insulting the war generation, you know, actual heroes who fought, killed and died so that we wouldn’t have to be treated like this. My grandfathers (and grandmothers) would have slapped you silly, boy
Vi Coactus Thanks. Have a nice day
Alec Barrs ahahahaa! Good one
Alec the reality i speak of is what we call, the real world…The other reality you may be thinking of is the fake, media controlled illusion of reality where they think people choosing bodily autonomy over being coerced into having a hastily contrived jab for a harmless winter virus are somehow psychotic… Its usualy quite a shock finding our your government is not benign or benevolent but in fact intent on murdering millions of people and enslaving the rest… So yes if you are not already aware of what is happening in the real world then you are in for the shock of a lifetime! Good luck!
Given that they have not succeded why do you think they will work from now on? Berks!
common cold replaced by covid
The important thing is the mutations ,Every time a virus skips from person to person ,animal to animal ,etc . it can evolve/mutate into a more dangerous version . 1st only bats had it , now the virus skipped to humans giving it a pool of a few billion new targets to spread . do the mats . most people are like Meh ….we already had 4 to 5 mutations .
the government is offering free showers …
Resorting to faith because facts sorta let you down…
So this is what propaganda looks like. Never would’ve thought I’d see it in my time but here it is.
Stick the restrictions and the lies
Show faith in totalitarianism. Maintaining illegal curfews and other restrictions of civil liberties, even if they have no proven effect on stopping the virus circulating, especially if they’re unpopular and causing rioting. Or, alternatively tell the MSM and GovCnuts[tm] to GFTs.
Smells like Stockholm syndrome
Some measures are of course necessary and welcomed to protect the vulnerable, but I think it’s clear for all to see that things have gone far, far beyond what is sensible and reasonable.Governments have imposed excessive, draconian restrictions (to the extent that people were not even allowed to do something so trivial as sit on a beach or park bench), internal passports to enter businesses and go about daily activities, and are trying to coerce and blackmail people into taking a vaccine which many do not need or want and have understandable concerns over in exchange for “getting your freedom back”. We are now seeing a two tier society where people are discriminated against based on their medical history and for exercising their personal freedom regarding what they choose to put into their body.People who have suffered adverse reactions to the vaccine are ignored, dismissed, and ridiculed, and their testimonies booted off of social media as “misinformation” by some faceless ‘fact-checker’ who hasn’t personally experienced what these people have. The news presents a one sided view of the situation and completely ignores and dismisses anyone with any concerns. Doctors, virologists, nurses, and other medical professionals with decades in the field who question things and raise concerns are struck off and dismissed from their posts.People should be seriously concerned about government overreach and how far things have gone.
over 65 million people in the UK, how many have NOT died from covid
there’s a policy crisis, any restriction is rediculous.
Here’s a thought: Let’s not show faith in restrictions. It started as what, a 3 week lockdown to save the hospitals, that then was extended to a year? These government officials can’t be trusted. Hell, they can’t even be trusted to report numbers correctly. Why should we listen to them?
Why would I support something with no evidence of efficacy and with catastrophic collateral damage?
Brings back a memory of 1940s Germany
I hope You Burn In Hell
YES to an Independent Scotland”I know hundreds of people who had Covid now” highly unlikely; what are the odds of personally knowing hundreds of people that have had Covid.Lost one relative & one family friend so far to the Virus. Both nieces had it, but recovered with minimal effects
While some of us r wearing masks and worrying about this fake virus thousands of Afghans r entering this country with no quarantine and everything else and brexshit was meant to lose the borders thanks Boris the bullshitter
Do one!
What crisis? Letting psychopaths run your life and dictate what you can do and not standing in your own authority is the crisis. Period.
Propaganda
1, THERE IS NO CRISIS AND NEVER WAS.2, I FEEL THAT GOVERNMENTS TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS MAKES GOVERNMENTS INTO TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIPS! 3, NUREMBURG TRIALS 2.0 ARE COMING FOR ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE CRIMES OF FRAUD, FASCISM AND GENOCIDE!
I feel rather angry I must say.Different approach? Oh yes! No tests, no vaccines, no masks, less TV. As a matter of fact, I think the media IS the virus. How’s that for a different approach?
See? No one believes the covid lie. Time to bring back the terrorism boogeyman
One word CONTROL
SCAMDEMIC!
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What response? All we saw was the worst violation of human dignity since WW2.
Thanks for your comment. Could you elaborate?
Debating Europe seriously, you are asking ‘why’ ?
Debating Europe
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All in jail!!! Corrupted sénateurs,and all that!! All in jail!!
Debating Europe
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Debating Europe Don’t play idiot we know your game and we are winning it.
Крис Караджов yes thats why we are the most vaccinated continent in the world.
Крис Караджов It’s because it’s the WW3. The ennemy is humanity…
Anthony Contino your government, not other people.
Maci Flax Yes i’m agree with you, i would like to say : “for them the ennemy is the humanity”.And government are only “puppets”, the cancer are “puppeteers”…
Debating Europe pouvez-vous élaborer dit il
Крис Караджов exactly that
If there would be more serious issue them we would be screwed: from first response to mobilisation of internal resources, legislation and simply an ability to keep a clear mind and act fast.
What response ??The EU is only there for money.
Some would argue the coordinated purchasing of vaccines qualifies as a response. No?
Debating Europe it took forever to agree and organize, did not actually work well for smaller members
Debating Europe Vaccinations are not necessary for a mutating virus. We will all have to pay for this misplaced joke.
Debating Europe those are not vaccines, but DNA altering methods. While there are 3 or 4 manufacturers of classic vaccines for covid, with better results in one injection and less side effects, those corrupt, money and ego-driven leaders block them off, because they have their dirty hands in the big pharma’s money.
Debating Europe that is why the brits had the vaccines first ^^europe even botched that XDand then they even tried to bully the company for selling to the brits firstgg europe XDThomas Wade Bernaers
Ezra Natan Could you please explain why vaccinations are not necessary for a mutating virus? And by the way, all viruses mutate. But let’s hear from you.
Ilja Gobeyn true
Debating Europe the problem is that it made it impossible for countries to act quickly. UK was able to buy vaccins before EU made it possible to buy them.
Debating Europe Why? Because with every “new variant”, we are told to be very afraid, although most people are vaccinated. I’ll take my chances on not being vaccinated. I had Sars Cov 2 in march. It sucked, but not much of a deal. Just like with the flu, people with a weak immune system can die from it. This is the new flu, but it is used a a leverage for horrible people to bring about change. Just like this climate change crap, it comes from the same little club. It is definately not for the better of the people, but for the elite. And we can all be sure they they don’t get the vaccine.
Debating Europe Well, if you take the mortality rate vs the total population it’s 0,0006% of the population that died of Sars-Cov-2 in the last two years. That’s hardly something like Ebola with an average death rate of 57% ..
Coronaviruses are known to mutate very quickly. Very different from e.g. the poliovirus. Please inform yourselves.
Miča Baanc The MAFFIA..!!
Debating Europe at which price? where is the transparency about that?
Debating Europe These vaccines aren’t it. Its are genetical therapies which doesn’t have the right of regulatory affairs and its are not safe !
Debating Europe If it is necessary , why isn’t it made mandatory? Ow right you can’t, because it’s still in testing and it would make the goverment responsible for all negative effects. Why is noone responsible for negative effects?If you all care so deeply for our health and well being, why don’t you make our lives better? Why are people still living in poverty and die from hunger. Why do you let big companies own so much money? Why is everything so expansive? Why do you suppress free will and free speech? I can keep going on with a lot more, but you will deny it anyway. You are all fraud and the most evil people in the world and one day you will all hang for all the crimes you did against humanity. I really hope i will live to see that day coming.
Debating Europe Could you please explain why natural immunity is not important for you?
Some would argue? Yeah some idiotic naïve stooge of your kind eating off crumbs from the imperial’s court table. Lobbyism has bright days ahead
Debating Europe bravo à l’algorithmique pour votre réponse
Ilja Gobeyn The company made promises to both the EU and the UK, but favored deliveries to the UK and failed to deliver properly to the EU. How is complaining about this failing to follow the contract bullying?
Debating Europe because you cant vaccinate your way out of a respiratory virus pandemic, you are only creating more asymptomatic or mild cases that won’t get detected and they will spread it even more which in turn produces more variants that causes vaccine breakthru and endangers the old and weak even more. many countries have more infections now then last year going into the winter and vaccination efficacy is dropping fast. like many ignored vaccinologists predicted!!!!! https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/c-19-pandemia-quo-vadis-homo-sapiens
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Debating Europe the flu is mutating, is a vaccine mandatory? No. Have we ever been excluded to restaurants, bars,…in the past? No Have we ever been fired due to no vaccine? No Has the world economy stopped working before due to a “pandemic”? No Have there been so many death people, paralysed,… before due a vaccine? No IFR of the flu 0,15% and for covid 0,16% ==> I rest my case
Debating Europe because taking a “vax” for a mutating virus only causes it to mutate faster, but hey we’re talking about very minor mutations that make it about 98% similar to the other strain. if you just get the virus and develop natural immunity you’re way better protected. Hey even the Pfizer scientist said it with confidence, see the project veritas pfizerleak. More importantly tho, you pumped 90% of people full with an experimental gen manipulation that spread the spike protein throughout the whole body. We had no idea about the long term side effects and now we’re starting to see more and more really healthy people dying left and right. And all for a virus that has a 99% survival rate in the population aged 0-65 and 98% survival rate in 65+.
Debating Europe You mean Buying vaccines from those who created the Virus ? Very good MArketing
Debating Europe The virus is mutating because of the Vaccine.
Covid:”I’ve come from China to infect you all!” EU response:”Hi!And welcome!”
I think they actually said “no worries, it’s only a problem in Italy and the big vaccin-contracts with AZ, Pfizer and the sorts (which will cost the EU-citizens millions of euro’s) will sort this..” .. “Oh, sorry.. we again need a few millions of your money for boosters, sorry!”
Money-grabbing thieves!! You don’t have a clue about what’s going on down here!
Manfredo Broeckhoven Oh sure they do. Not like I love them, it’s just the swiftness of grabbing money says they exactly know what they do, they just pretend that all “fails” happen accidentially or because goofy decisions.
Impossible de faire pire.
Cindy Meurant dehors LUE vous êtes des assassins
EU can go to hell
Is that the same as Panama? ;-)
Its all about the money, its all about the dum dum dumerumrum!
The response is a joke, just as the pandemic. The EU should have guarded the rights of its inhabitants, and not let all these draconian measures take place.
What response? Tapping themselves on the shoulder, because they managed to keep all the factories open, while families were torn apart in generations, and a lot of the weakest and elderly were dying while those factories were making monster profits. Do you mind I would have preferred to live in China during this pandemic?
They are all in the scam of the PLANDEMIC !! rotten hypocritical gang
Johnny Becu correct!!
Johnny Becu They are guilty of violating the fundamental and constitutional rights of each country, premeditated crimes against humanity, … A CONDITIONAL FREEDOM IS CALLED DICTATORSHIP!
We saw nothing!! Only violation of human rights!! Go to hell!!
EU did a very good job to allow pharmaceutical compagnies to make huge profits without risks, even with inefficient and toxic drugs as Remdesivir, while refusing honest trials on repurposed drugs. EU is a bunch of corrupted criminals. But that’s not new nor specific to this crisis….
Alain Debeyne agree (Y) … the whole medias sells vaccines and fake news.. but who cares .. if its on TV is real right lol …
Hope Nuremberg code will have more to say !!! Good bless u all!!!
cette photo c’est à vomir, fake af
governments may only give advice if it is already undependent and sincere. but we know enough! big reset, w.e.f. claus swab, bilderberggroep, big pharma, big teck, etc etcdo you think people stay stupid?? Follow the monny Its always abouth monny and control….one day you will have to answer to the people and the people’s tribunal will judge your fate!
For me the leaders of the EU should be tried for treason and crime against humanity…
After ignoring Italy in the beginning, EU came back and did what they do best – write big fat checks. Rivers of money are flowing, life is good.
Ken Hætta Italy huh … I remember seeing a lot of coffins from other times … but who cares… if it’s on TV is true am I right? lolhttps://africacheck.org/fact-checks/fbchecks/photo-migrants-drowned-2013-not-italys-coronavirus-victims
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Shame on you. You are transforming into a totalitarian regime.
slower than required, but passable
De EU didn’t react at all, very expensive elite old politicians club. Useless.
A better question would have been: What do you think competent, objective EU leaders’response would be to the pandemic, who in real life wasn’t a pandemic, only on models?
Sur un plan Sataniste 10/10
Completely agree!
L I A R S DICTATORS !!!
I was a convinced ‘European’. But from what I saw during the last year, I think it’s better to stop this whole thing.
The EU did well to purchase vaccines as a collective, however the pharmaceutical companies should always be held accountable for the safety and compensate for serious side effects. This is currently not the case. Moreover, the implementation of the EU Green Pass has no legal basis and promotes medical apartheid. It coerces people to get vaccinated with a vaccine that hasn’t completed phase 3 clinical trials.
At the moment immunity from natural immunity only counts for 6 months, while the validity of vaccine-induced immunity is not limited in time. But according to the scientific literature this opposite is true, that is long-lasting immunity has been found in people previously infected, while waning immunity is observed 6 months post-vaccination.
Crimes against humanity
It destroyed peoples immunity, peoples live, peoples (small to medium) business & peoples freedom to make a choice in honour & conscience.
sleeping and do nothink ,
À criminal
Klaus Schwab,the Great Reset!
FU!
Totalitarian – inhuman – no fascist pass!
MAFFIA EUROPE………………
It’s the worst violation of human dignity, freedom of choice, freedom of movement and freedom of speech since WWII. All those control tools that are now in place will never be removed and instead will be adapted to any new future “crisis”, that can now be defined on any criteria and for as long as needed provided the exit conditions are never revealed. In the case of the current pandemic that has an EXTREMELY HIGH survival rate when taking into account all age ranges, we’re all very aware of how many people are infected daily but there is no clear info about when it can be considered over (and unless a CLEARLY DEFINED metric exists for this, then on paper it can last indefinitely and so will the restrictions). The “legally approved” way to confirm you’re NOT infected for a limited duration only is a test which communicates your result after a black box process in which “duration” of said procedure might influence the outcome, think about that for a minute.Freedom in general as a right is no longer a granted thing. It’s now ruled by conditions defined “for our own safety”, it’s a consumable good, with an expiration date, that those so-called leaders intend to make us renew once or twice a year. Meanwhile those providing the “keys to our freedom” in the form of pokes are happily piling up our tax money…the leaders will tell you it’s free, but did you forget about taxes ?You should rather ask what do we think about the world’s response to the pandemic – the answer is the same. Since all leaders are the same: a bunch of money-craving cowards that are now enjoying sooooo much their new authoritarian tools. They’ll never let go of them and never remove the laws enabling them. Because the moment they do, and IF they do so, they’ll be judged by everyone for what they are: a bunch of traitors to mankind itself.I’ll most likely get censored for this post. To the moderators that will delete it: go F… yourself.
Fred Trolldawg selfish person talks about human dignity and rights, ends their comment by telling people to go f themselves. OK.
Richie Holland I’m not telling all people to go F themselves. I’m giving the middle finger to the ones that will spit on my right to free speech and enforce censorship in the name of that new safety propaganda we now live in.So nice of you to ignore everything else and only be shocked by the last sentence.
It’s really not that hard to stay within our community guidelines: https://www.debatingeurope.eu/terms/
Jerre Pip als ge eens wilt lachen met EU propaganda die hard backfired :p
omg zet de comments uit en accept defeat
EUROPE THE NEW SOVJET UNION, just go away, Europe is hypocriet and violating the human rights, i’m pretty sure stalin would be proud on the leaders
Do you really think that east Europeanen countrys who just came out of a communistic system are going to surrender once again at a tollitarian regime where the desicions are Made by the Vanguard crowd under the cover from the davos group?usa is on the brink of a civil war….open borders….print your money….we all know that you need inflation to pay all your spending Bills but i think that you are underestimating the power of the people…..Ps : 17 september 2019 ( repo rente crisis in usa Seems that jp morgan lost confidence in wells fargo)One month later pandemic exercice at the John Hopkins center unde guidance of the bill and melinda Gates foundation…( event 201)and then what a coincidence the who declared a pandemic on 20 januari 2020(chec event 201 and the date)
Vivement qu’elle meure cette UE.A part servir aux plus riches,elle tue les peuples.L’UE,nuis gravement à votre santé,et à celle de votre entourage.
Scandemic !!!
If i make decisions like that at my work i would be fired on the spot without pay and probably be charged by lawyers
I am wondering how many of them eu politicians are gonna turn up in the ‘pandora papers ‘scandal
they should be locked up forever.
Not as simple as written! The many emotions will be ignored!
First, we have the UN/WHO- responsible for all its ~ 194 sovereign Members- especially the poorer ones! = 1st x “Sharing is Caring”!
https://unhabitat.org/un-habitat-covid-19-response-plan
To judge how efficient the EU’s response to Covid-19 was/is- requires first to correctly understand its legal obligations. We talk EU now- not so?
Matters get complicated when- in addition- our mini UN=EU27 sees fit to act on behalf of its 27EU & some UN27 Nation Members as well.
Why do these 27 EU/UN Nations deserve such extra care, concern, bureaucracy & additional costs? Privilege or burden?
• First read Article 168 of the “Functioning Treaty” & then EU Regulation 2021/522……….
• Cost: the EU budgeted ~€5 billion for the period 2021-2027 for that privilege.
However, each of the EU27 Members needs to be judged separately on how they performed at the national level- simultaneously. Thanks to “shared competencies”! = 2nd x “Sharing is Caring”!
• Public health is a competence shared between the EU and its Member States.
Finally: how well did the EU perform regarding:
• To prevent illness/disease by promoting healthier lifestyles?
• To facilitate access to better and safer healthcare?
• To contribute to innovative, efficient and sustainable health systems?
• To deal with cross-border threats?
• To keep people healthy throughout their lifetimes?
• To harness new technologies and practices?
•
Q: Is that worth the additional ~€5 billion over ~6 years?
Quite unbelievable & unfortunate, but most of the 100+ Covid pandemic comments above are frivolous social clatter- making me feel sorry for the moderators to keep their composure & neutrality.
Is an overdose of “EU Human Rights” & supranational endeavours the cause?
“Clatter Chatter”: https://www.clatterchatter.com/top-5-social-media-myths/
– Why overlook the political “EU competency creep” over time? Every EU failure will encourage the Commission to obtain stricter & more competency from its “distracted” Members.
https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/european-issues/0553-the-european-union-and-the-coronavirus
– Why not read more science instead of spreading pseudoscience, hearsay & confusing facts? The latest research about “micro clots & long Covid” is here:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211004104134.htm
The man with the little mustache is back discrimination all the way
what response? there wasn’t any. it was every country for itself.
1 question; Would you, all European politicians, also be part of the European Parliament if this were not so generously compensated? Don’t think so.You all don’t even have a clue what’s going on in your population, let alone that you’re acting on it. You are, unfortunately, a large money consuming ‘nothing’ that has no added value at all.
Une catastrophe ! L’UE a démontré qu’elle ne servait à rien.
Bunch of criminals.
Tyrants
Very poor
Good luck
The plandemic!?you showed your true face over it …
EU afschaffen. Lijkt me het beste.
Moet je op die pagina al de reacties eens lezen. De algemene toon is overduidelijk,
Rudy Dingens en terecht!!!
Rudy Dingens ik ben blij dat er meer en meer zo reageren. T draait om macht ,geld en controle.
Discriminatie… Dictatuur… Verarmen van de bevolking.
There is a lot of work to be done. Europe nor any European country is ready for pandemics or any other crisis for that matter. Europe should have plans for any crisis that might come. Do not wait until the crisis happens, be prepared. And do prepare your citizens too. Why did most people not have masks and handgel at home? Why did people panic and start buying toilet paper and food? Because governments did not prepare their citizens. You could take example on Japan on that matter. Every 1 september the Japanese government tells its citizens what they should have at home. Water and food for at least three days, protection in case of a pandemic,….. Listen to scientists, they will tell you what the possible problems will be in the (near) future. Not just pandemics, but floods, nuclear disasters, earthquakes, terrorist attacks, volcanoes,….. people can be prepared to have what they need at home, they can be prepared on how to react in case of disaster. But it’s up to governments to make their citizens prep for it. At least, when disasters happen, people won’t be waiting until the government saves them, they won’t be blaming governments for their misery. They will be self-prepared to save and protect themselves. https://www.facebook.com/PreppersDayEurope/
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There is nothing medical about a world wide power grab.
I’m vaccinated, with enthusiasm, but I know an attempt to implement a “social credit” system à la Chinese when I see one. The French pass sanitaire, the Belgian covid safe ticket or the Italian green pass are “social credit” systems in their infancy.
Laurent Leemans idiot
Laurent Leemans true..i live in belgium,i m not vaccinated. For me no movies, entertainement,events,etc…in the netherlands you may not enter the pubs ,restaurants,mc donalds..only outside.You may not go inside for using the toilet.
We know!
They should all go to a retirementhome…because they are useless to the people they should stick up for…Throw them in a sinkwhole, please!
Human response? or economic?
NOTHING. ZERO. EU must be dismantled. Leave Europe Of Sovereign Nations !
It is pretty obvious to anyone who has read a few history books and has paid attention to the things that happened after 9/11, the Banking Crisis of 2008, the return of Russian imperialism or the Migration Crisis of 2017 (hint, all measures were restrictive, all measures implied less personal liberties and less right to privacy) that the EC is using Covid-19 as a tool to implement a “social credit” system à la Chinese. France (Pass Sanitaire), Belgium (Covid Safe Ticket) and Italy (Green Pass) are the avant-garde, and I would bet the skin of my face they will be extended to all aspects of life. Always in the name of safety and well-being of course.
Bunch of criminals…filling their pockets…that is all that matters to them…
bad, worse, worst, EU…
Well there is not much the EU can do. We all have to be aware of the problem and help each other!
EU the new idea what 1 german wanted in 1940
Criminal Ursula……
PANDORA PAPERS €urop$
What pandemic?
they violated all human rights . And keep on doing it. Against their own laws. I find that hypocritical. I think, maybe they should stop listening to Schwab and his minions. And start caring about people. For real this time. And return to God. Cause this lighting thing, its not going to last. Spoiler alert; Jesus won already.
They are the biggest idiots to rule. They think to rule… They have to much on the hands that has blood on it
I am looking for people around Europe (not e.u.) that are willing to co-op. Different states and the attack on some institutes. Rly!
Which crisis? The one cultivated and extended to eternity to allow the power hungry generation of all but elected officials to continue their reign of Pharma-dictated terror?
I didn’t know that the EU had a response to the pandemic. Thanks for the update.
Eerst : altijd de waarheid vertellen.Tweede : volledige transparantie in alles en wat men wilt bereiken.Derde werk op meer vlakken. Nu is enkel op isolatie en vaccinatie gefocust. Men zou ook mogen werken op het immuunsysteem.Ten vierde : homogene regels maar deze kunnen per regio versoepelen als de besmetting, vaccinatie,… Verbetert.Ten vijfde : een groep experten die de leiding neemt, niet zoals nu dat elk land een groep experten heeft. Dat die experten buiten virologen, epidimologen, vacciologen, … Ook immunologen bevat
Biggest crimes against humanity in history. This will become clear in a few years (if they don’t succeed in covering all their tracks).
Only white child… Thieves… Lies and media
‼️Oh nee! zij nee‼️…⚠️
They are a very expensive joke.
These are the people that tought having to accept cookies on every web page was a good idea.
Marco Van Wassenhove So not being informed about the presence of cookies is better then? And them being used without consent is the way to go then?
Im British
Response? You mean the crimes against humanity? Where is all the money?
Stop lying to people. Stop censure from people who have a different point of view. Stop violating the human rights justifying because there’s a pandemia the which I never sow. Why did you do this? are we going back to fascism or communism. Both are synonymous.
That you are sick people!!But really very sick in the head!!!But darlings in the end… The good Wil Winn from de darkness.
Pandemic ? Plandemic
There was no scientific explanation for some blind actions Europe and many countries made, they think we are stupid
Costly, and so slow it wasn’t really needed anymore.
The worst response possible. The EU gave us the vaccine passports (we all know what kinds of regimes use these things) and we’re witnessing the rise of totalitarianism in the EU (France, Italy, The Netherlands etc.) without the EU intervening. Meanwhile the EU is occupied with universal cell phone chargers Before the pandemic I was a big fan of the EU because of three things : open borders, the Euro and the protection of civil liberties via the European courts. With open borders and civil liberties gone, I’m waiting for the EU to kill the Euro
The response of europe to this “pandemic” is to cry for . Not only made every country member his own rules during this crisis , but the fact that human rights can be so easy set aside is disturbing . Look at the vaccins for instance . Vaccins are needed to fight disseases. But to vaccinated the whole world with new vaccins is derranged …. For that to work people need to have trust in those vaccins . Trust In the EU. In there own gouverment…. Lots of people dont have that . And i cant blame them. The gouverments demand you take the vaccins or they take away your freedom… You still got a choice yes , but really ? Then theres the WEF that saying the world needs a reset. The WHO that changed the rules about what a pandemic is and what herd immunity stands for and how to achiev that ( vaccines ofcourse) . Trust in gouverments and EU and all is very thin …
The Cyprus government is unlawfully and arbitrarily violating The exceptions to articles 8 to 11 of the European Convention on Human Rights because it does not meet the criteria required for the exceptions and the EU has no time-sensitive process to deal with it. What is the point of having the European Convention on Human Rights when the EU can’t intervene quickly enough to prevent violations? The Cyprus government is also unlawfully violating the Oviedo Convention by not offering informed consent with full comprehension and coercing and pressuring EU citizens to vaccinate with an experimental vaccine. The Cyprus government is unlawfully violating citizen’s human rights to Right to liberty and security (Article 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights) by unlawfully detaining healthy symptomless contacts of unconfirmed COVID cases by quarantine.The EU states that we must write the Cyprus Commissioner of Human Rights yet she states she has no power. The court cases are being delayed. Judges, lawyers and the like are being threatened. The EU wrote exceptions to the European Convention on Human Rights which is easily used as an excuse by corrupt national governments to unlawfully violated EU citizens rights, but it has no direct fast-acting process to protect EU citizens from national violations. As far as I am concerned the EU is slow, inefficient, ineffective and practically useless. It is only good at writing laws but it doesn’t have an effective time-sensitive plan of action or authority to enforce them when they are urgently required. The WHO states on their website that “Most people infected with the virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” So why are we in an emergency? In Cyprus, we have under 1% covid cases if they are even covid cases as most cases do not even have one symptom to meet the covid case criteria. The Cyprus Government is corrupt and highly likely invested in pandemic products, as they are hell-bent on maintaining the illusion of a pandemic when there clearly isn’t one. Other EU countries with similar statistics have removed measures while in Cyprus it is full of fascism with unnecessary and disproportionate measures which are more likely to be tax-payer fund theft and disposable income theft from pandemic product sales personal investments. The EU doesn’t have any fast-acting laws or powers to deal with corrupt national governments violating EU citizens medical rights and human rights.
Een voor een gangsters!!!
99 percent of the leaders who approved the vaccines and measures to be taken relied on hearsay imagination and money…Thats it..
I love this comments! 100%!!!Not a single BS comment!!! That’s something to make you think about what is happening?
Mirela Kristo Alot of people are seeing the corruption. Way more then they want us to believe. That’s why they’re going full blown radical…
Not a response but an opportunity they’ve all bren waiting to implement measures and take away the rights to citizens. Now they don’t have no moral highground in the future to accuse other nations of infriging the so-called human righs.
Could it be less reppressive and liberticide by using Covid Safe Ticket/Pass to force people to be vaccined while these vaccines are still under test. They should also explain why they are keeping and maintaining half-million of doses instead of save people in other social condition than us ?They are upstarts and it disgusts me to see how we are managed in EUROPE…
They are showing their real inhuman face !
What do you think about the EU’s response to the pandemic?
A complete phoney sham! You know full well this vaccination farce is not working and is dangerous to the general people…. yet, as in Thalidomide, continue with the pretence under the notion, ‘although people are still contracting this virus after both jabs, it is ‘less’ likely to kill them.’
Who will be paying compensation when finally you have to admit this is an error of seriously bad judgement? Why, the same tax payers of course, the real people who had nothing to do with this money making for billionaires sham you are backing..
And what I have written is first hand knowledge.. A friend of mine had the two jabs.. three weeks later she came down with Covid 19… Fortunately she is 36 and did not die.. But many others have… Now you want to force it on young children without one acknowledgement to medical staff screaming out to you not to do this….
Why???
@Cathrine Benning I see that debting Europe is either choosing which comments to post or they are too slow in doing their job. Anyway. I do not think that the virus can be stopped unless there is a cure for it!!! It seems this is a biological weapon.
Criminal, I think all people in charge of this should be locked up asap and brought before tribunals. I don’t like being lied to all the time and no lie will ever convince me to take something experimental. ALso the meusures were batshit (or batsoup :p) crazy without a basis in science. Again criminal !!!
Disaster….. I want get out from this false democracy ….. out from Ue
I think it’s time to dismantle the EU… They are leading a war against european people. F U, EU.
Privation des libertés individuelles et autorisations de test à grande échelle des thérapies géniques …. On a rien vu de tel depuis les heures sombres qu a connu l Europe au siècle dernier. Bravo de vous êtes couchés devant BigPharma.
En français svp
That it is a good joke.
Hey European politician, we see you. And we will not forget.
The response is genocidale
kill them all
Soon getting out of this hole! Who wants to live in a place run by dictorial criminals.hope they soon get what they deserve!
you’re a ffin joke, you let people get really sick untill they needed to be put on ventilators!! no vitamin d prevention campaigns!! no use of ivermectin eventho many doctors on the ground in poor countries said it worked in march of 2020!! you let many people die for nothing!! and just wait untill the results of these experimental “vaccines” rear their head. no pr campaign will save your downfall!!
Response? Euh?
There’s not been a pandemic but a planned psyops to gain control over the people and to destroy natural immunity!!
WE THE PEOPLE think European institutions revealed themselves as a full-blown CRIMINAL ORGANISATION and that their blatant crimes AGAINST HUMANITY should not remain unpunished !https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10165289460130467&id=834265466
We destroyed Europe by manipulating numbers and imposed a Yellow Stars to citizens based on False numbers of deaths.
Just waiting to be put in a work camp cause I didn’t get a vaccine the way things are going
In a nutshell : a feast of corruption
Just a bad joke…
the EU has failed miserably, the question is, has the EU done something right for its citizens..
You beat the Nazis, that’s for sure…
What do you think about the EU’s response to the pandemic?
The trouble with all these groups who claim to be Governing nations of the world is, when they make ‘gross mistakes in judgement’ made regarding the lies given to them by medical salesmen, they want to run and deny the existence of their error…. Why is that???
It is now pretty obvious throughout the world that vaccine in Covid 19 matters does not stop transmission.. We also see very clearly deaths from the vaccines are a cause of death in many cases.. And yet, here in the UK and clearly in Australia, the use of this so called treatment is not facing any kind of scrutiny. All you hear is, ‘double the vaccinations that will bring about relief from this horrific pandemic’.. ‘Only then will you see termination of the spreading virus.’ Why is that??? India shows us very clearly that vaccines being used is not stopping anything at all. In fact the disease is spreading like wildfire. Yet the bigger the spread the more the media and social chat websites are forced to keep it quiet or face extinction…. To a lay person it appears to be a conspiracy toward mass extinction…
What surprises more than any other chat show host is the GB news open Farage. However, on this though, he is all for mass vaccination of all people including the very young and the quicker the better. I assume this must be before the truth gets out and those still prepared to give this jab refuse to continue as more revelations show the horror of hidden results creating fear and guilt having taken a terrible toll…
What is it that makes the human race do this repeatedly when this kind of chaos reaches their ears.. Why is the first response “cover it up or we will all be made to pay.” Then, once it does scream out, ‘stop,’ they collectively run for retirement or deselection to sidestep accountability…..
Here is an example of an ‘ignorant woke voice’ hollering like a banshee on the only genuine News channel in GB, allowing these fashionable, predominantly female blasters, to create the new, ‘children must be responsible for themselves, grunt, even when they fear what they are saying is futile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vXXFL0hHc&ab_channel=GBNews
Mind you, where, in the UK, would we be without our Nigel. He is a goer and I love his show……He deserves a statue in Parliament Square.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtcJQuYOejA&ab_channel=CRUX
Hi Catherine,
Hope you are well!
To my surprise, this theme attracted lots of negative, many misguided, distressed & angry comments about the vaccine, the vaccination process, the EU, its politicians & big pharma. Never seen that before!
If all 27 members would hold an in/out EU referendum now- probably more would vote for “out” then “in”. Opinions about the EU change like the April weather!
Many 27 national governments were equally in a deep slumber! Unfortunately, all of them missed to educate & prepare the public. Unprepared & a faster than sound super-virus got the better of them all.
Most folks hardly did sufficient research on their own- although there is an abundance of free available info! No time, no interest- too much Twitter & Facebook? Pity!
What would a factual, realistic & balanced view be? I have no intention of trying to alter your or anyone’s held opinion! I strongly rely upon my belief & actions. In the end, it is everybody’s own life & responsibility how to gamble their life away!
I can disclose to have sought & happily received the 2x Pfizer vaccine shots some time ago- 42 days apart (as per medical recommendation)- without any complications. I am glad & have no regrets. (Both my wife & myself.)
Having no- so-called “underlying conditions” and free from any traces of any incubating (takes ~2 weeks) flu-type or C-19 infection symptoms at the time- this “event” went unnoticed & smooth. Just a slightly sore upper arm for a short while, depending on the nurse hitting or missing one of the 3 nerves (“median, radial, and ulnar nerves”) or some strange muscle located there.
No scientist, the UN or politician to my knowledge ever maintained that the C-19 vaccine will stop transmission dead in its track. That’s a grave error & misunderstanding!
One still can get infected, one still can pass this virus on. However, one does not occupy an expensive ICU bed nor need a respirator or eventually die awfully. If infected, one can stay at home & recuperate. Isn’t that enough incentive & poses cheap life insurance under the circumstances?
The annual common flu can never be stopped either by a vaccine. We are using this vaccine over the last ~10-15years and never contracted the common flu. Lucky?
Flu vaccines don’t act as a permanent protector like Polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), Hepatitis B- which we all received as children. At that time without any drama, demos, uproar or a questionable EU “shared competency”- like today!
At the time, the 100% sovereign National states considered that their obligation & duty! Our national politicians are hardly thinking- but permanently bickering & campaigning for votes. They generously outsource their obligations when in power to the EU & others- while the UN offers any assistance the EU can offer- with less money, less bureaucracy & more freedom.
General health: what kind of milk are babies given nowadays? Most mothers buy formulated milk. A cardinal sin! What happens to the transfer of antibodies? Breastfeeding is mainly done in 3rd world countries- like Africa! This disadvantages any 1st world born babies immune systems from birth- a bad start to life. Another “underlying condition”
https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/vaccine.html
https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/10/09/human-milk-covid-19-antibodies-pediatrics
General overindulgence, refined & fast-foods, fast life, stress, wrong diet & reduced exercise are all underlying conditions! The EU produces robots instead of healthy babies and accepts mainly illegal & unsuitable migrants instead. This will reduce the birthrate & estrangement even more. And “they” fantasise about an EU army with unsuitable & non-existing soldiers! Unbelievable crazy!
Please go through the attached statistics. Covid-19 is the 2nd biggest killer in the US! The death rate is 11.5% or 640,000 or 194 per 100,000 after “Ischemic heart disease” of 16,8% or 930,000 or 283 per 100,000.
C-19 death ranks 4th globally or 4,6%, or 4 550 000, or 59/100 000! Guess why? And people are not even aware of it- until it is too late!
C-19 vaccination should not be blamed for coincidental or unexplained death during immunization- without careful investigations. Ideally, in any social caring country, all need to cooperate to reduce costs.
https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/just-how-do-deaths-due-covid-19-stack
Hope it helps a bit- or too much said?
Finally:
1) Covid-19 Pandemic:
* There should be no doubt that the Covid-19 pandemic is real! (please visit WHO) https://covid19.who.int/ vs The common flu:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/index.htm
* The vaccination effort is a necessity & has a proven positive effect globally. Despite the (unfortunate) anti-vax lobby.
Paradoxically, the better educated first world wildly demonstrates while the 3rd world pleads & begs for more vaccines!
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2) EU vaccine negotiations- shared competencies:
I accept the legality of shared competencies. But when the EU derogates from such commitments (by “emergency regulations etc.”) and such action is reported (ref link) as “not reported” in any document, such deviations are a cause of concern.
Below is a report about the “Transparency in Negotiation of the European Union with Big Pharma on COVID-19 Vaccines”.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.647955/full
Did the final negotiated prices favour the EU taxpayers or the big pharma businesses?
“The CEOs of Moderna and BioNTech top the list of nine individuals who became billionaires on the back of the rollout of vaccines against Covid-19, a group advocating turning vaccine receipts into a global public good has said.
Much of the scientific research that went into the creation of effective vaccines against Covid-19 was paid for by taxpayer money, but the private companies that hold monopolies on the resulting intellectual property (IP) are the ones that reap the rewards. That situation is unjust and should be changed, argues the People’s Vaccine Alliance, which is calling for the lifting of IP protections for the vaccines ahead of a G20 summit.” Oxfam reported:
https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/covid-vaccines-create-9-new-billionaires-combined-wealth-greater-cost-vaccinating
Trying to mix aggressive & destructive US capitalism with modest European socialism is hardly a good idea.
Reminder:
The EU’s secrete & abandoned TTIP negotiations lacked transparency & accountability! The TTIP lobbying ghosts are haunting Brussels once again!
https://corporateeurope.org/en/international-trade/2019/02/ttip-reloaded-big-business-calls-shots-new-eu-us-trade-talks
I wouldn’t trust the EU to successfully & transparently negotiate favourable deals after the TTIP debacle. Somebody needs to oversee them, but who to trust?
Can the EU ever redeem herself?
Hi EU PRO,
I have responded to you with thanks, etc..but it has not been accepted, and I have now a different format in window to respond to any of this forum or post here in any way… Has yours changed at all???
Hi Catherine,
I also noticed that a new ‘sideways G’ symbol appears once we reply to a comment. Seems it belongs to “GRAVATAR”: (=IT company of sorts)
https://en.gravatar.com/
My guess: DE did a systems “up or down grade” using Gravatar which squeezes our comment into ~1/3 of the space we used to have.
Maybe it’s their response & contribution to a more “sustainable (restricted)” exchange of ideas & enhanced EU democracy? “Adapt or perish!
Don’t like it either! We’ll find out over time.
EU Reform Proactive
I had sent a vid showing a government document in Aus, man at the top, exposing this virus and subsequent vaccine as poison to the masses. nIn the UK the level of people who have been vaccinated and the death toll is mounting at an unsustainable rate..It is not working here or in Australia…
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-records-highest-number-daily-155552975.html
Best wishes to you!