It’s illegal to teach LGBT issues in Hungarian schools. In June 2021, (Pride Month, of all months) the Hungarian parliament passed a controversial new law banning LGBTI education for children. From footballers to politicians, the decision has been roundly criticised; EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen called it “a shame” and announced the Commission plans to take action against Hungary.

Under the guise of protecting children from pedophilia (thereby conflating homosexuality with pedophilia), the new law prohibits, among other things, the teaching of content to “popularise” homosexuality or trans identities in schools. Teachers are thus prohibited from even talking to young people about LGBTI issues, let alone teaching them. Human rights organisations warn that such measures will have a serious impact on the mental health of LGBTI youth in Hungary.

Other countries take a very different approach. Scotland, for example, was the first country in the world to integrate LGBTI-inclusive education into its curriculum. Since 2019, state schools in Scotland are obliged to teach pupils about the history of LGBTI equality. In this way, Scotland aims to combat homophobia and transphobia and give pupils space to explore their identities. Although Scotland is considered one of the most LGBTI-friendly countries in the world, a study found that even here 9 out of 10 LGBTI people have experienced homophobia. Could education help fight homophobia? Should LGBTI-inclusive education be introduced across Europe?

What do our readers think? Our reader Nefeli believes that education is the only way to fight homophobia and break down prejudices.

We put Nefeli’s comment to MEP Marc Angel of the S&D group from Luxembourg, chair of the inter-parliamentary group on LGBT rights. What does he think?

Of course, education is very important: education in school, but also education in the activities outside of school which kids and also young people participate in, and then also education in the family. However not everybody has the chance to address subjects like LGBTI questions in their family. Therefore, the school and all the institutions around school have to play an important role.

I think LGBTI questions should not just be an extra subject, but part of a broader upbringing, including sexual education, talking about love, about relationships with people. I think when you have such subjects in school, you cannot ignore LGBTIQ issues.

For another perspective, we also put Nefeli’s question to Rubén Ávila Rodríguez. Rubén is Policy & Research Manager at IGLYO, an international LGBTQI organisation working to make education safe and inclusive for all.

Thank you very much, Nefeli, for your question. I believe that education is one of the strongest tools we have to raise awareness on hate speech and on our own rights. I think that incorporating LGBTQI people, history and issues in school curricula could combat the widespread homophobia Nefeli is talking about, but also bi-phobia, trans-phobia and intersex-phobia that we face in our societies.

Including this type of content in curricula could also offer a safe environment to students who are exploring and kind of understanding their own sexual orientation, gender identities and gender expressions and sex characteristics. We disproportionately face the effects of bullying in schools, so being able to discuss that in a safe environment would help a lot.

While including all of that in schools is very beneficial for students, the way that this is presented is also very important. We know that teachers sometimes lack the confidence to include [LGBTQI education] in schools and also the knowledge on how to do that. So it is very important that they are trained to have this anti-bias lens, so that they can celebrate diversity when it comes to being LGBTQI. And that should also include teachers not having biases when it comes to racism or sexism. So yes, I fully agree: education is one of the strongest tools we have, but we need to work on how we implement it when we are at school.

Next up, we had a comment come in from Teodora. She argues that sex education should be compulsory in schools across Europe, and points out that LGBT awareness and inclusion are particularly important in this regard.

How would Rubén Ávila Rodríguez of IGLYO respond to Teodora?

I fully agree with you, Teodora. At IGLYO, we have published several resources always with young people in charge, and inclusive sex education has always been one of the minimum standards that we have always seen. For inclusive education, we think it should be compulsory, indeed, we believe that lessons should focus on relationships, rather than only on reproductive functions and health risks, which is what happens a lot of times. And this discussion should remain diverse with regards to gender and sex characteristics.

We think that if we do it like that everyone would be able to understand sexual health, while having a positive representation of who they are in regards to sexual orientation, gender identities, gender expressions and variations of sex characteristics. Here, again, I would say teachers should be sensitive to the fact that they might have LGBT students, who also have the right to access this education in a meaningful way.

We understand that sexual health is much broader than just reproductive or procreative sex. Yes, we do need to talk about health risks, but also about how to have a positive experience when it comes to sex and that is very important for LGBTQI people, and we need to be sensitive to what sex might trigger for some people, depending on their experiences of sexual orientations, gender identity, gender expression and sex characteristics.

Finally, we had a comment from David arguing that there are many differences in attitudes as well as legislation towards LGBT issues across Europe. He therefore thinks that education on LGBT issues should be determined at a national level instead of being imposed by the EU.

How would MEP Marc Angel respond to David?

I would say to David that, first of all, the EU has very few competencies in education. And if you look at the LGBTQI equality strategy issued by the Commissioner for equality, Commissioner Dalli, in November, there was a chapter on education, but they talk about exchanging best practices from other countries, and nobody is imposing this.

What Europe does have to impose are the fundamental rights and our treaties, such as Article 2, where we talk of rule of law, where we talk about fundamental rights, where we talk of democracy. You cannot ignore LGBTI rights, and no country can have legislation where LGBTI rights are not seen as human rights. It’s like with women’s rights or with disabled rights – LGBTI rights are also human rights. Human rights are indivisible. In some countries, like Poland and Hungary, they’re saying that this is an ‘LGBTI ideology’, a ‘gender ideology’. No, I’m not an ideology. I’m a gay man and this is an identity. Being an LGBTI person is about an identity, and it is certainly not a choice. But being homophobic or transphobic – that’s a choice.

But I can understand David’s reflection. Education is not a competence of the European Union, though I hope that in every country we can have good sexual education. It’s important for the future and it’s also important that children learn about what is discrimination, what is bullying, because all of this is linked to each other. If you know that ‘gay’ is not an insult or a swear word, then you don’t use it in that way. This is also a lot about language and the younger we start, the better it is. But there’s this very well-organised anti-gender movement in Europe. They tried to ban gender studies from universities, they are against sexual education, they want to bring us back to the patriarchal society, but we don’t want that.

Therefore, I think it’s important that Europe pushes LGBTQI rights without imposing it. We need to strengthen civil society. And in places where legislation is not ready yet, we have to be an ally with civil society and make them push and change legislation to have more pro-LGBTI legislation in these countries. It certainly won’t be dictated from Brussels, but it’s something which has to come from the people.

Should schools teach LGBT issues? Could teaching LGBT issues in school help fight homophobia? How should the EU deal with Hungary’s ban on LGBT education? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below!

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  1. avatar
    Karen

    No, they should teach kids to be themselves and not adhere to restrictive stereotypes of what real girls or boys do and do not do. They should teach kids that love is love. They should teach kids adapted to the needs of the individual child, allowing them to learn in the way that suits them best

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      Igor

      Karen Melchior this. 100% agree.I continue to be happy I voted for you for MEP.

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      Marianne

      Karen Melchior Needs to be tought in Denmark too! My daughter stood up for a student in her class, who wanted to join her best friends at the “boys’ night” instead of signing up for a “girls’ night”. It’s a few years ago, and it made perfect sense for the kids, based on the student’s interests and social life, but the grown ups said no.One of them even explained to me, that it is important for girls to have a night alone, away from the boys – she wanted them to feel like princesses.The whole problem could have been very easily solved – the kids could have been asked to sign up for either “gaming night” or “glitter/spa night” – both events open for all.Young kids should be allowed to identify as boys, girls, or both/none of these categories.Gender and sex is not important. Kindness, respect and friendship is.

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      Karen

      Michał some times good content receives more attention than lies. Not always but sometimes.

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      Igor

      Michał Szostało Man! .. your source of info must be biased as hell virtually none of what you said makes any logical sense and w.r.t. to Istanbul convention is simply not true.Love is love == “It is none of my business who you love and want to spend your life with as long as they are a consenting adult”Dismantling patriarchy == “Removing structures that make women (or others who are not men) worthy less than men in everyday life”I see 0 relation between love is love contradicting dismantling patriarchy. If you do, I think it speaks to where you see yourself in this patriarchy conversastion.

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      Igor

      Michał Szostało oh boy . Need a hug? It’s ok to feel emotions. I do not know why you feel so threatened by the idea that two men / women / people may love each other, but it is clear you are acting in anger and fear. I am happy to listen to you and try to understand. My words were not empty. I provided definition of 2 of the issues you worried about. They are not related.I am not Masha .. their words stand as theirs. We (the people not hating people because who they love) are not some unified being. We are many many different people with different ideas – I probably disagree with Masha on many issues. You want to know what Masha means, and why? Go ask them.

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      Igor

      Michał Szostało never mentioned Orban. But also I am not lying .. I told you my best definition of love is love and dismantle patriarchy … how did I lie? Because you believe my world view (and Karen’s for that matter) must 100% align with a random video you found on yourtube? Again .. Masha is not me. I do not care what they think. Just like the right wing has multiple subtle internal differences, so do we in the rest of the world. I do not speak for Masha and Masha does not speak for me. I have no idea who this person is and do not care about their opinion. I am just not sure why you are so hung up on one person’s opinion I do not know – why am I supposed to go watch a random video and speak for someone else. They are more than capable of explaining themselves – go ask them. Again .. you seem to be upset. I am trying to understand why. Why are you so threatened? You seem to be a man, I will assume a straight man, perhaps married. So am I … a man, married to a woman, with a child. I went to some of the most liberal schools in the US .. I do not feel threatened by feminism, the LGBTI advocacy, marriage equality, or any of the other movements that seems to be touched on in this comment thread.. I have met many-manny people from these movements. I have worked for some of these movements and campaigns. Up close (not through a filter of thousands of kilometers and dozens of commentators), not one of these movements is trying to ban you from marrying who you love. You may still not believe me, because this Masha person said something else, but well, after 17 years in the US … working closely with very many equality movements, this is what I saw. In 100% honesty. I have no reason to lie to you.And thus ‘love is love’ is 100% that … if you love women, want to live your life with a woman (and she’s a consenting adult) – go for it. That is what i am doing. But I also believe that it is none of your, my, or Orban’s business if people who do not identify as a man and a woman want to live together, be married, and have kids. Government does not belong in those decisions. Have a good evening.

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    José

    No, there are certain subjects that are reserved for the family. Can’t be strangers having these conversations with my kids.

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    Vivian

    They should but that does not mean the curricula should adopt any existing propaganda, esp when it comes to trans issues; eg the scientific consensus is that it is NOT known what makes sb homosexual at present. My son was taught about LGBT issues at school at age 10 and I am happy about the open- mindedness, kindness and respect for all people I see in him.

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    Любомир

    No, schools should teach kids those things, which they would need to be virtuous individuals and successful members of society – math, literature, ethics and law, computer science, history, biology etc. LGBT issues are not a valid school subject. They are issues that should be freely and responsibly disucussed between adults in adult society, not by kids in school.

  5. avatar
    Pedro

    Lightly, more of a recognition and guidance for those interested. Not full program subject.

  6. avatar
    Ulla

    Of course ! It should be part of the National sex education programmes as well as part of the diversity stream in social sciences / civil society education IPPF Sex og Samfund Council of Europe AEGEE / European Students’ Forum European Parliament UNICEF UNFPA

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    Yannick

    I think the whole society (including school curricula) needs an upgrade on this topic, the same way by the way that the whole society needs an update on what environmental sustainability is about. Kids are already sensitive to the topic and often more advanced than their teachers eg in using non-gendered pronouns. But I also agree with Karen Melchior : it’s also important to teach that we don’t need to be put into boxes, except perhaps for those like Orban, who should be put in the intolerant-bully box and locked up in there for eternity.

  8. avatar
    Ralf

    Yes for sure, we exist and need support as humans do (stop the bullying, teach about equality and rights). Stop the dumb religious hate!; Let us be(come) ourselves (Gay Men)! Thanks alot! ❤ ️‍ ✌

  9. avatar
    Stefanos

    If this LGBTQ+£€ acronym keeps on expanding, school time should be expanded in August and weekends to cover all the …issues.

  10. avatar
    Karel

    What LGBTTQQIAAP… issues? Imposing a way of life on children is wrong. Unfortunately, the current wave of LGBTTQQIAAP… activism is in fact all about imposing, not about informing. Plain wrong. I accept everybody the way they are, I however do not want to have activism being imposed in school upon my children. That is not what schools are for. The same with the radical critical race theory activism.

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      Kimmo

      Who said anything about “imposing” and “activism”? I don’t know about your country, but in mine, kids get sexual education as part of the health curriculum. You don’t expect them to become sex maniacs just because they learn how people multiply, I suppose. Or wanting to conquer the world just because they learn about the Roman Empire at history lessons? LGBT+ is a fact of life, why shouldn’t kids learn that, plus that everyone has a right to be themselves without discrimination?

  11. avatar
    Giorgos

    In school, they should teach Mathematics.Physics.Chemistry.Biology.Literature…etc.It is school.Not a place for political experimentation…

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      Anonymous

      Why

  12. avatar
    Sophie

    Too much advertising is going to the other extreme nothing to be ashamed or proud about it teaching in school is promoting it i do not see why

  13. avatar
    EU Reform Proactive

    Are there no better political ideas coming from the EU & its President Ursula von der Leyen & her advisors at present?

    Why not suggest teaching essential life skills & tolerance in schools- if not done yet- first?

    https://askeducareer.com/blog/10-essential-life-skills-you-must-learn/

    Isn’t instilling & providing life skill knowledge more important & practical than opportunistically jump on a narrow LGBT issue & push an “in vogue” global or EU vote-catching agenda?

    Please, come up with a plan & show us how to find solutions to prevent the many indiscriminately executed attacks- past, current & ongoing- on all & any respectable adult, plus the ‘vulnerable’ <18 wannabe adults, of mainly female gender (by culturally disturbed immigrants)- like in Würzburg or Vienna recently!

    This can be seen as a systemic societal failure in general & an EU socio-political concept failure in particular.

    A reminder- the first obligation & duty of any government is to guarantee the safety of all its citizens- be they of whatever description & age!

    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-3-people-killed-in-w%C3%BCrzburg-knife-attack/a-58052076

    https://www.diepresse.com/6001626/mord-an-13-jahriger-befeuert-debatte-um-abschiebungen

    Any suggestions? Or just a necessity to enforce EU values- because one of the many treaties may dictate so?

  14. avatar
    catherine benning

    Should schools teach LGBT issues?

    This is a psychotic madness that has been swallowed by politicians who have no idea what they are dong to our society, stability and children’s mental health.

    Here is what I witnessed today. A huge, hirsute man came on our news programme telling us he is a woman. A transexual male. He left that truth for a very long time before putting us straight. He wanted children in schools to be taught about homosexuality, transexual practices and how they are what they feel they are to the point where they can be medicated before puberty is over and under the age of sixteen, to ‘prove’ they are not mistaken…. As well as convince children that homosexual relationship was a healthy normal practice and they must embrace it. No mention of the serious health risks this practice can bring on. And does frequently.

    This is so utterly ridiculous I thought about a friend of a family member who has been in a mental institution for forty years because he believes he is a billionaire. He owns all these world wide top hotels and truly believes he has to run them on a daily basis… The maintenance of them, like painting and decorating, plumbing, and frets when staff leave. Worrying how he is going to keep it all afloat. Checks the daily footsie to see how his investments are doing. Their livery being up to the mark. The accounts… I kid you not. He is a poor lost soul struggling inside a 5D existence, whilst living in a 3D world. And here you are as ‘serious’ politicians of our present, declaring you feel it is right for him to be this way. We must accept it as factual. He is Bill Gates. Not only that, but it is mandatory we do so. So much so, that we must sit and look at a huge, hairy, masculine man convinced he is a women and we not only have to take him seriously, you are forcing us to pretend we go along with his predicament, or, go to jail. And our children, at very young ages must also be pulled into this warped view or feel afraid they will be punished if they do not believe what they see, hear and smell. They must believe this man is really a woman, able to be his/her mother, aunt, sister or other female close person. What an insult to women and womanhood this is. My God, what is inside you people to make you do this most dreadful act, against the sanity of us all. Are your places filled with disturbed individuals to the point where you want to destroy reality, or, the reality we believe in, through our own senses. What we see, hear and smell is no longer to be believed because you tell us it is good for our social cohesion to do so? Should a hirsute man or feminine woman tell us they are really the opposite gender to their very appearance, when they most evidentially are not, we will be abused and humiliated should we speak our truth.

    Additionally, you then want to convince babies they have two mothers or fathers, that strapping 6’6″ men can compete against tiny petite girls because they really are tiny petites girls themselves, inside that huge body. Their injected hormones say so. Now it is to be taught to children in school. A place where you think they need to learn respect, appreciation and discipline, along with their ability to function in academia.

    Please, give us all a break and make an appointment with the psychiatrist to sort yourselves out. You ridicule our senses, as you deride our intellect and why do you do it? What is your reasoning? Do you know?

  15. avatar
    Julia

    Then children will get their information from social media which is way worse. Children need to be taught about it in a basic and informative way, taught acceptance, respect and tolerance for all people no matter their race, gender or beliefs and that everyone has the freedom right to do or believe as they please as long as it doesn’t violate other people or laws.

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      catherine benning

      Julia

      They don’t have to trust in the social media mad house. What on earth does ‘race’ have to do with belief in something that is non existent. Would you like to elaborate. It doesn’t matter how many times you spouts 6’6″ hairy man believes he is a woman that we must believe, no matter what our eyes, ears and sense of smell tells us, it does not make him female. No matter how many mind and body altering hormones you stuff him with. And you want to force children to believe their ‘respected’ teachers telling them he is, is okay, whereas, race is factual. Does this not correlate to you. Teaching human beings are of different breeds, which we see, hear and feel, knowing it to be true, is education. To pretend something is what it is not, is delusion. So you want to knowingly warp children’s minds because the minds of a few are deceiving them, so we must add to it by pretending, under threat if we do not, that it is so. What else do you have in the politically correct pipeline that we must be persuaded is fact against our better knowledge?

  16. avatar
    Alexandra

    Schools should teach tolerance and sexual education eventually. Everything else is political propaganda that has no place in a school.

  17. avatar
    catherine benning

    Should schools teach LGBT issues?

    Hungarian schools are pragmatic and understand that to do this is opening a dangerous can of worms not acceptable in an environment of a school room. Children mature at different ages and what may be okay for one child can seriously mentally destroy another. Politicians have absolutely no right to take a frenzied fad and destroy a child’s life with it this way. There is an enormous responsibility running a country and this infantile attitude suggested here is not part of that obligation.

  18. avatar
    Gianfranco

    No. Never in primary schools. I don’t agree in Europe pushing or imposing these subjects to member States

  19. avatar
    Jan Beugelaar

    A school should teach children about their rights. That it is not normal that there is agression in their homes towards them, That they have the right to follow education. And that it is their right to be who they are and to love who they want.

  20. avatar
    Natasha Stavropoulos

    Of course they should be teaching LGBTQ+ issues, it’s a given!

  21. avatar
    Mark

    Yes, ofcourse as part of sex education in schools. Some families are too reluctant to give or know proper safe and correct information. This correct information and knowledge coups literally be the difference between a person being safe and protected or not.

  22. avatar
    Hannah Priscilla

    From the most racist continent on the face of the earth! How rich! Europeans can’t address the disgusting legacy of colonialism, racism, Islamophobia or the multiple genocides they use EU funding to sponsor, but Europeans want to lecture CHILDREN about sexuality and become punitive towards Hungary?! Bunch of hypocrites! Why isn’t Ursula doing something punitive to Emmanuel Macron or Denmark concerning how they handle Islamophobia? Who has educated The Netherlands about their blackface Christmas? Europe has no business lecturing anyone about human rights. Get out of our children’s knickers!

  23. avatar
    EG

    Of course LGBQTIA choices and promoting inclusivity should be a given. Too many suicides and bullies at present. Young people need to be aware they don’t have to fit in boxes but can be themselves and it’s OK to be themselves. By the way why no women commenting on the kick off discussion?

  24. avatar
    Chris Kremidas-Courtney

    Yes, it should be taught in schools since its not only a human rights issue, it can literally save lives. The number of LGBTQ young people who commit suicide due to bullying and social exclusion is way too high and by educating kids in schools these numbers can be drastically reduced. One recent survey showed that 65% of young LGBTQ Londoners have contemplated suicide so teaching about these issues in schools indeed is a matter of urgency. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/education/lgbt-plus-londoners-contemplated-suicide-b942295.html If we’re going to have an inclusive Europe, then that means everyone!

  25. avatar
    Steven Tustin

    As an adolescent I was given no context for my feelings of homosexuality and thought I was flawed and broken. Obviously we need sexual orientation and gender identity taught as part of a science based curriculum to avoid the damages to individuals and society by internal and external homo/bi/transphobia.

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      catherine benning

      Steven Tustin

      Out of interest, how many other children in your class had the same feelings as you? 50% 60% 2%. Would you say it was a majority? How about through the entire school? Democracy is a lesson for the entire population, not simply a few. Children are supposed to be protected by adults, particularly parents. How many of the guardians of the children in your class or school feels teaching their children this hard core ‘adult’ subject is something they can’t live without for a little while longer than the age of five?

  26. avatar
    Alex

    The world is colapsing because of so many reasons… and your focus is on this??? What a joke

  27. avatar
    Nacho

    Why should schools teach about something that’s totally personal and intimate? I don’t see any need to teach neither about LGTBI issues nor about sexuality in general in school, that’s something that every parent should teach and decide how to teach. Schools are places where you are technically prepared to get a basic knowledge about subjects like, sciences, maths, literature, geography, economy, etc. all those things that can help to develop your future profesional skills and to understand about your world. I don’t see any problem teaching about LGTBI issues, as something historic or social, but something totally different is to teach about the different types of genders or to pretend to deliver speeches about sexual diversity and sexual experimentation as it has been proposed here in Spain…

  28. avatar
    Yola

    Cuando será que laEU nos impondrá obligatoriamente ser LGTCQYZZ!!

  29. avatar
    Enrico

    Dietro una simpatica bandiera colorata si nasconde una setta che sta manipolando la verità. L’Ungheria e la Polonia stanno tutelando i bambini dagli orchi che si nascondo dietro a presunte libertà sessuale. Le richieste della UE sono un grimarderllo per i depravati pedofili. Che l’ira di Dio vi colpisca maledetti massoni devoti a satana.

  30. avatar
    Kain

    Children need to know that love can exist between a man and a man a woman and a woman, and a woman and a man.

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      catherine benning

      Kain

      Please, will you explain why you feel ‘children’ from age? must be bombarded by adult concerns which removes any sense of childhood security often leading to distorted views and panic in every day life. Why would you feel promoting nightmares and intense fear from being unable to comprehend sexuality in its most benign form let alone incomprehension at is variety of deviance will be of benefit to average children. Even precocious children can be and are disturbed to too explicit sexual awareness when foisted on them way before they are ready to receive it. And what gives you the idea the ‘state’ has a role to play in such matters as intimate as this. It is a well known fact government policy, in practice, always falls on the less suitable employees to administer such information. Teachers with little insight passing on information of this kind are prone to enormous cover ups when faced with the disasters they instigate.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He3IJJhFy-I&ab_channel=Bark

      Politicians and politically trendy ignorance has no business interfering in the mental stability of a nations children. They hide their catastrophes for decades before revealing the anguish and illness they create. Experiments of this kind must be kept out of the classroom. And if the LGBT brigade don’t like that natural sense of adult protection of the young, ‘why,’ needs to be addressed in depth.

  31. avatar
    Endre

    This is not about the LBTQ rights, it’s a simple liberal dictatorship! u

  32. avatar
    Miguel

    LGBT has no place in our schools nor among children

  33. avatar
    Balaban

    Of course they should. Is reality and human history. Is the women rights in schools ? Then the kids should learn about all the human rights fights and how much people struggled to obtain them. And how some are still fighting for basic human rights even in EU.

  34. avatar
    Olivier

    Shame on undemocratic Europe which does not respect people’s of Europe democratic choices

  35. avatar
    Иван

    Ask your Mother and Father how they made you! This is the FKNG New World Order rools…. Dont be stupid, use your minds!

  36. avatar
    Pirvulescu

    About sexuality, yes.Political propaganda, no.

  37. avatar
    José

    it has no right to intervene in the sovereignty of member countries. It cannot and must not intervene or tell people how to live. each people its culture, each people its values. They always end up talking about acceptance of different ideas and cultures. But everything that is not on the Marxist agenda can no longer be accepted. Live the cradle values, live the family values. Europe wants to endotrinize in schools, it wants to play a role that only the parents of children have to play.

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      catherine benning

      José

      You are right…. However, does anyone ask where this crop is all coming from? Where did this start? And by whom and why? Why does this organisation, along with others in the Globalist cabal, want to force us to sign up for our children to have their minds contaminated by adult behaviour from babies? Why is it being allowed by those who teach and those who parent? Why would some people think this is acceptable politics? What is it really about? Is it rational thinking?

  38. avatar
    Matthew

    I believe LGBTQIA SHOULD be taught in schools worldwide! It should be covered in history class, it should be covered in health class, science, etc. The world has been ignorantly blind to the fact that we are a part of history, a part of science, and a part of health. It’s very important to include LGBTQIA topics in school. The exclusion makes the individual who fits into the category illiterate of their own personal experience and that is NOT fair.

  39. avatar
    Jan

    From MF or MW we have arrived at LGBTTQQIAAP?
    So, the clay is now informing the Potter, when in reality the Potter forms the clay.
    The short answer to the question is No.

  40. avatar
    Ioan-Sebastian

    Definitely not. Schools and unis should be free from LGBT propaganda.

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      Nicolas

      Ioan-Sebastian Buduroi then they should also be free of heterosexual propaganda!

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      Nacho

      Nicolas Janberg What is exactly “heterosexual propaganda”?

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      Nicolas

      Nacho Ibh what is LGBT propaganda?

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      Ioan-Sebastian

      Nacho Ibh basic biology is probably heterosexual propaganda for the lefties

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      Nicolas

      Ioan-Sebastian Buduroi hetero- and homosexuality is basic biology for everyone.

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      Ioan-Sebastian

      Nicolas Janberg oh, so it’s not a choice? Good that we have a common ground there at least.

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      Nicolas

      then why should there be a choice in what is being taught?

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      Ioan-Sebastian

      Nicolas Janberg if you teach about LGBT as sexual deviations then sure, I have nothing against it.

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      Nicolas

      It’s a variation, not a deviation. That’s why it should be taught

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      Ioan-Sebastian

      Nicolas Janberg whatever. Make sure to teach the kids that it’s not normal, though it should be tolerated nonetheless, just like any other illness.

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      Nicolas

      It’s normal and it’s not an illness. Your logic is faulty. You agree with me that it’s not a choice, then how can it be an illness because that implies that it can potentially be cured (and thus would not be a choice).

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      Ioan-Sebastian

      Nicolas Janberg if something is natural it doesn’t mean it is normal. Being born with autism or ADHD is also natural, but it is not normal. You get the point? No need to act normal or pretend to be. Just accept who you are and stop trying to impose it to everyone else as normal.

    • avatar
      Nicolas

      I am sorry, teaching is not imposing. You are the one who wants to impose your narrow view in schools…

    • avatar
      Piratul.ro

      Ioan-Sebastian Buduroi Is it propaganda to know about your (not mine) “enemy”?

    • avatar
      Ioan-Sebastian

      Piratul.ro absolutely not, as long as you present the reality, not propaganda.

    • avatar
      Ghiunhan

      Nicolas Janberg there is no propaganda in heterosexuality since almost ALL species on earth are heterosexual … LGBT on the other hand is specific to a minority of humans who try to impose their view to the majority of humans …

    • avatar
      Nicolas

      Ghiunhan Mamut You are spewing heterosexual propaganda right there

    • avatar
      Ghiunhan

      Nicolas Janberg I have nothing against LGBT people, is their choice, they are free to do whatever they want in their bedroom … I just feel their view has no space in a classroom

    • avatar
      Ghiunhan

      Nicolas Janberg is just the biological truth … feel free to see it as propaganda or whatever you like

    • avatar
      Devin

      Ghiunhan Mamut their view? What is the view of LGBT individuals, except that they want to have the same right as heterosexual people… If it’s not taught in schools, then heterosexuality shouldn’t be either.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Ghiunhan Mamut – yes, ALMOST all species on earth are heterosexual; LGBT is NOT specific to a minority of humans only; and no one is suggesting “imposing their view”. At school, you learn that such things exist as fascism and communism, does it make kids fascists or communists? Similarly, if you learn LGBT exists, does it make kids LGBT? I think your logic is a bit flawed.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Ioan-Sebastian Buduroi – but it is wrong to present the reality that some people are LGBT+? Where do you get the idea that bringing up the issue is automatically “propaganda”?

    • avatar
      Ioan-Sebastian

      Kimmo Linkama it depends on how you teach that to children. The western way is unacceptable, bringing drag queens and teaching all sorts of bs, that is what I call propaganda.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Ioan-Sebastian Buduroi – where have you seen “bringing drag queens”? What is “teaching all sorts of bs”? I’m afraid someone is now seeing threats where there are none.

    • avatar
      Ioan-Sebastian

      Kimmo Linkama just search for “drag queen school” and you will see dozens of pictures and news, I don’t think that is too difficult. “All sorts of bs” means teaching children about various sexual activities, including sexual positions, how to pleasure each other etc. I find it hard even to think about it without getting mad. It is absolutely normal to teach them how to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies and STDs, but anything beyond that is way off limit.

  41. avatar
    Stefanos

    Family could teach this issue better….

    • avatar
      Riccardo

      Stefanos Kissoudis apparently they don’t rip :0

    • avatar
      Stefan

      Stefanos Kissoudis Family doesn’t know all details, because family doesn’t live among other groups.Only those that live in those groups can better teach everyone what’s happening with them and what issues do they have.

    • avatar
      Anton

      Stefanos Kissoudis So a family that hates LGBT people would be great teachers?

    • avatar
      Stefanos

      Anton Sjöstedt Why any family to hate anyone? My dad used to smoke, I don’t. My family are meat lovers, I might be vegan. Kids do not need guidance and dictation. Education they need to decide later how they feel about anything in life

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Stefanos Kissoudis – and education should not include mentioning that different sexual orientations exist? How about different philosophical views, political ideologies, or religions?

  42. avatar
    João

    Hungary was and is correct!!

  43. avatar
    Karel

    No. This is a family issue. Schools should focus on knowledge, not on lgbt+ or woke topics. Leave that to the parents.

    • avatar
      Luísa

      Karel Van Isacker schools are a great place to discuss culture. If we just rely on parents, we may end up with misinformed children

    • avatar
      Constantinescu

      Luísa Pereira lgbt is … CULTURE?!

    • avatar
      Luísa

      Constantinescu Florin you may need to brush off your definitions According to Cambridge dictionary Culture is “the way of life, especially the general customs and beliefs, of a particular group of people at a particular time”

    • avatar
      Constantinescu

      Luísa Pereira like AMiSH?

    • avatar
      Luísa

      It’s never funny to make fun of others like you seem to be doing about lgbt or the Amish ‍♀️ ‍♀️ I honestly don’t understand what you are all so afraid of. Kindness and respect for others is basic decency.

    • avatar
      Vlad

      Luísa Pereira I’m all for kindness and respect. When it comes to this, I’m personally open to every group / way of life, etc. Each to their own journey towards happiness / dopamine. The problem is that it’s all subjectivity. The bias and subjectivity of other groups should not be taught on a wide-scale, no matter the group (regardless if their bias is left or right-leaning), because then it turns into nothing short of societal indoctrination. The societal core should be left factual, not run by emotion.Again, I accept and treat anyone nicely as long as they’re a nice person to me back, but we’ve really forgot that personal conviction, no matter how strong, does not qualify as fact, that’s why I will never agree with either extremes (because both sides of the spectrum have their whacky people).

    • avatar
      Karel

      Luísa Pereira oh dear… culture…

    • avatar
      Anton

      Karel Van Isacker LGBT people and issues exist. How is it not knowledge for a school to say this? Is it better for a child, perhaps a LGBT person, to be told by his or her familiy that this doesn’t exist or is wrong?

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Vlad Spatariu – so at school, you never learned that Catholicism, Protestantism or atheism existed, that communism and capitalism existed, that different philosophers at different times thought differently? Or the basic tenets of any ideology? That must have been some school.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Karel Van Isacker – so “knowledge” should not include knowledge that such things as LGBT+ exist? That would be a rather exclusive way of defining knowledge. How about evolution vs divine creation? History and biology should also be banned?

  44. avatar
    Jevgeni

    Problem is that in some countries, especially post soviet, family can only teach hate as they are not familiar with lgbt (for human race all that is unknown is a threat).

  45. avatar
    Rajesh

    School is not the place to discuss LGBT issues

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Rajesh Kalra – why is that?

  46. avatar
    Tiago

    No, sexuality is private!! Hungary is 100% correct!

    • avatar
      Devin

      Tiago Costa so heterosexuality should also not be taught then! Deal!

  47. avatar
    Георги

    Just be like Hungary and everything will be okay

  48. avatar
    Debby

    Of course, LGBT children need to learn that they have a right to be, even if at home they can not be themselves.

    • avatar
      Ivan

      Debby Teusink you grew up in a bad family if you couldn’t be yourself

    • avatar
      Ivan

      No

    • avatar
      Stela

      Ivan Popov Pripomniam ti che sqshtestvuva dumata tolerances.

  49. avatar
    David

    Teach about it but also highlight that simply because someone doesn’t believe in it, doesn’t make that homophobic.

    • avatar
      Anton

      David Scott What do you mean by believe in it? On policy people can disagree. But do you mean that if people doesn’t believe in LGBT people or that they should have rights?

  50. avatar
    Tony

    Half the schools don’t teach music or sports?

  51. avatar
    Giorgos

    School should teach only about reproduction.And that one only in terms of Biology and Evolutionary Theory.Please lets leave school outside of our political correctness.Lets leave school outside of our propaganda.

  52. avatar
    Richard

    Why should not teaching LGBT be a sign of hate? No need to teach it.Just teach children to be loving and respectful to all their fellow human beings.End of.

    • avatar
      Anne

      Richard Zahler absolutely!

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Depends on what you mean by “teaching LGBT”. Kids learn about how humans multiply at school. Is that “teaching promiscuity”? It’s not like the EU is promoting any sexual orientation, just supporting the idea of pointing out differences exist and no one should be discriminated because of what they are.

    • avatar
      Anne

      Kimmo Linkama sorry not quite the same thing, teaching about reproduction is biology. Teaching to be kind to your fellow man and treat everyone equally is the correct thing to do. This starts at home.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Anne Smith – when it is OK for schools to teach that different philosophical, political, and religious trends, factions, and orientations exist, why is it not OK to teach that differences between sexual orientations exist? It is stating a fact, not “promotion”.

    • avatar
      Anne

      Kimmo Linkama because I think you’ll find most young children accept people for who they are, it’s when the outside influences take over ( whether it be from the home, or other people) and tell them what to think, eg: who is good and who is bad, which is what needs to nipped in the bud as soon as it starts. If children are taught equality and caring for each other and acceptance of differences that’s all it needs. We don’t really need to go into sexual orientation.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Anne Smith – you said it yourself: “when the outside influences take over ( whether it be from the home, or other people) and tell them what to think”. What do you think a schoolkid is influenced by if they come from a strictly anti-LGBT+, fiercely religious, or politically regressive home/family? Wouldn’t it be better to get a more objective view through education?

  53. avatar
    Seán

    Just in Hungary and Poland Teach them about Democracy and press freedom too

    • avatar
      Michał

      Seán Rohan Maybe we should force schools in Western Europe to teach kids how to distinguish reality from fiction. If you don’t, I suspect Putin will do it for you, which would be most unfortunate.

    • avatar
      Seán

      Michał Szostało If Hungary had a free press and didn’t treat journalists who criticise Orban the same way Russia treats journalists who criticise Putin I could find out from Hungarian media…but they cannot freely criticise the government like in a normal democracy like France or Ireland

    • avatar
      Michał

      Again, you might need some help distinguishing propaganda from reality. Did you know that men can’t actually have babies? Or that fetuses are fully fledged members of homo sapiens? In the 1920’s, Poland sponsored a whole school of logic knowing that people like you were going to flood the Earth eventually: people so clueless, they don’t know how clueless they are. You might want to brush up on your foundations of logic before Putin turns your country into a whiskey producing gulag and takes away your TV.

  54. avatar
    Joao

    Just teach tolerance and acceptance and we all be just fine!

  55. avatar
    José

    No! No way. The task of teachers is to teach, science, literature, history etc … certain subjects are up to the parents and only the parents.

  56. avatar
    Olivier

    Of course not. Nature is heterosexual… All others sexual natures are exception and can be mentioned as exceptions

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Olivier Dutreil – “can be mentioned”, but “of course can’t be mentioned”? Maybe you’d like to explain your thinking?

    • avatar
      Olivier

      Kimmo Linkama can be mentioned… The exceptions should ‘ot become the rules in doute of LGBT activism…

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Olivier Dutreil – okay, thanks. There are lots of things in school curriculums that are mentioned, yet no one thinks they are mainstream, preferable or promoted. At least I learnt in school that fascism, buddhism and animism exist, but nevertheless didn’t become a fascist, buddhist, or animist.

    • avatar
      Olivier

      Kimmo Linkama I support Hungary on that matter. Sexual education is family concern

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Olivier Dutreil – doing away with objectivity. All right, you’re of course entitled to your opinion, with which I disagree.

    • avatar
      Olivier

      Kimmo Linkama no problem. Am a fascist..

  57. avatar
    Tony

    They shouldn’t. Math, science, language, history, finance. Leave sexuality to be taught at home.

    • avatar
      Anton

      Tony Muñiz You don’t teach sexuality. You teach ABOUT sexuality. A family that doesn’t believe in LGBT people or hate them aren’t going to be good teachers.

    • avatar
      Martin

      Tony Muñiz So children in very conservative homes should go around thinking that they are sick, damaged or perverts? Of course school should teach children *about* LGBTQ – that it exists, that other people define themselves accordingly and that they are not sick.

    • avatar
      Tony

      Martin Skjöldebrand You assume. I am conservative and teach my daughter to respect and accept everyone. Do they teach heterosexuality in school?

    • avatar
      Martin

      I somewhat do, however I know that this is a problem in general.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Tony Muñiz – what if your daughter, later in life, identifies, say, as lesbian or bisexual? Would YOU accept that? Would she be confident you do, or afraid of telling you? That’s a good measuring stick about how far respect and acceptance goes. What would be wrong if she learned at school that these things exist, and should be accepted as part of a person’s personality?

    • avatar
      Tony

      Kimmo Linkama I have already told her I would not have an issue if she were to be lesbian or bi or whatever. If we are to teach this in school, as extraordinary, then we must teach everything else that does not have a place in academics. We are supposed to teach academics, not indoctrinate.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Tony Muñiz – I’m still wondering how mentioning the existence of such phenomena in the school curriculum makes it “indoctrination”. If you have already spoken with her about these issues, would you categorize that as indoctrination? Same thing, basically, isn’t it?

    • avatar
      Tony

      Kimmo Linkama No, not the same. I can teach, or guide, my child in my beliefs, but if it is done in the academic environment it is indoctrination. We can’t pick and choose what matters we should “teach” in school based on our own personal beliefs. What may seem right to you, may not be right to another. Not saying LGBT is not right, just stating examples. Part of academics is to be a respectful and empathetic cultured person, that is what an academics education provides. No need to single out a certain group, which by doing so you are already stating they are different. It is when you bring your personal beliefs and morals into education that chaos ensues.

  58. avatar
    Manuel

    Trying to speak with conservative people from post Soviet Union republics or “so called” Catholics from South America … It’s a waste of time! Don’t reply to hate, don’t reply to people that use God or their little understanding of nature, don’t reply to “better at home” when they explain that a baby are brought by a stork…

    • avatar
      Michał

      Manuel Soria Hidalgo Sounds a lot like you hate everyone who disagrees with you.

    • avatar
      Kimmo

      Michał Szostało – sounds to me rather that he’s got a strong point.

    • avatar
      Tony

      Manuel Soria Hidalgo Very tolerant of you. LOL What difference is there from a Catholic in south America to one from Europe? Seems like a very xenophobic comment. Why do you generalize? Are all Catholics the same? You also left out Muslims, the most intolerant of all. Was that an oversight or just part of your ideology? See, you prove the point that personal beliefs should be left out of academics. You don’t believe in tolerance, as you don’t tolerate and promote intolerance towards others beliefs, yet you expect others to tolerate your beliefs and be forced upon them in school. Very incoherent and hypocritical.

  59. avatar
    Anton

    Yes. People, even kids, are LGBT. They need to hear these people, and issues, exist, and that it’s okay.

  60. avatar
    Filipa

    Absolutely yes! Its part of our society, and seems that a lot of people here should had been more informed, ou maybe could have learn in school.. before saying no.

  61. avatar
    Victor

    No! The psyche of children is very fragile. It is enough to know that family values ​​are built by a man and a woman!

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