The EU is founded on common values. But what are European values? One definition is provided by the EU Treaty: “The Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities. These values are common to the Member States in a society in which pluralism, non-discrimination, tolerance, justice, solidarity and equality between women and men prevail.”.

Surveys show that these values are indeed important to many Europeans. However, can we really say these concepts are somehow uniquely European? Furthermore, studies show there are fundamental differences within Europe in how these values are interpreted and assigned importance. With so many different perceptions across the continent, can we really talk of “common European values”?

What do our readers think? We had a comment sent in from Rogerio summarising what he considers to be European values, namely “democracy, human rights, solidarity, respect for the opinions of others, Christianity, family, equal rights and opportunities for men and women, and security.

To get a response to Rogerio, we have put his comment to Despina Spanou, Head of Cabinet for Vice-President of the European Commission Margaritis Schinas, who has the portfolio “Promoting our European way of life”, which aims to “Protect our citizens and our values”. What are European values for Despina Spanou?

The portfolio “Promoting our European way of life” was created precisely with the idea of promoting our values, the values that distinguish Europe from the rest of the world because they are respected. (…) Security is also an important value in Europe. We know that every time a country is affected by a terrorist attack, we have an EU-wide response. So protecting our society, protecting our citizens, protecting our homes, our parks, our public life, is also part of European values.

Many people ask: “What is the issue of migration doing in the portfolio of the European way of life?” Well, migration is a reality. But migration is also there because a lot of the policy we have to make is not just about asylum policy. Our values apply here as well. A big value is that people who have fled wars and suffering have a right to find asylum in Europe, to find Europe as a place of refuge. But it is also about ensuring that those who have arrived here can enjoy these values in the same way and belong.

It is also about ensuring that everyone who is in the EU enjoys these values in the same way, whether it is democracy – participation in public life must be possible for everyone – whether it is education, education should be available to everyone, whether it is skills and employment, everyone should have access to a job, to qualifications, to acquiring skills, and so on.

And then, of course, we have a very important value that is not often mentioned, namely mobility. One of the most important values (…) is the movement across borders. And that is very important for students, look at the Erasmus programme, there are millions of people who have benefited from a life-changing event. That has a huge social impact. Of course we need labour mobility, not only because people are looking for a job somewhere else for a number of reasons. We also need it for the proper sharing of skills for emergency situations. Look at what happened with the medical staff. We had to mobilise medical staff between countries during the pandemic. That is also a very important value, the right to free movement.

Another very important value is solidarity. During the pandemic, we have seen more than ever that Europe is all about solidarity. Nowhere else in the world could you imagine 27 sovereign countries (…) coming together and tackling a pandemic together, coordinated and united. Look at what happened with the vaccines. Everyone agreed (…) that we will all get the right share of access for the population. No one should have an edge, no one should have more population coverage than the others. We have to be fair and equitable.

It is very important to talk about values in a much broader way than the typical way, and I see Rogerio talking about Christianity. Of course, respect for Christianity is a very important value, but another very important value is inter-religious dialogue, protecting the culture and religion of everyone who lives in Europe. We do not discriminate on the basis of religion, just as we do not discriminate in the EU for any other reason. So you have in the Vice-President’s portfolio for the movement of “promoting our European way of life” also inter-religious dialogue and (…) the fight against anti-Semitism. Because another very important value of Europe is not to forget our history, not to forget our mistakes and to make sure that they are not repeated and that their lasting effects are abolished and eliminated.

For another perspective, we also put Rogerio’s comment to Dr Inge Sieben, Associate Professor at Tilburg University. Together with the European Values Study team, she is conducting a large-scale, international research programme on the values most important to Europeans. What does she think European values are?

Thank you for this comment, Rogerio, it is a very interesting and important question. I’m doing research on European values in a large-scale survey project where we asked people from all over Europe what they think is important in life. And that is actually the definition of values: what people think is important. The things Rogerio mentioned are indeed very important for many citizens in Europe – you can also count freedom and justice among them. But there are more aspects to the issues, and if you ask deeper what people mean by them, they all come up with different ideas. For example, equality means something different to everyone.

So, in general, you are right about these abstract concepts, but when you go deeper, you find many differences, and I think that is what Europe is: it is united in diversity. We have values that are common to us, but there are also many differences between people and what they really think about it.

This leads us nicely to the point made by Ivan, who sent us in a comment arguing that there is no such thing as “European values”, but rather “there are at least 50 national value systems within Europe.” Is he right?

We put Ivan’s comment to Laura Sullivan, Executive Director of We Move Europe, a citizens’ movement aiming to strengthen the capacity of citizens to change Europe for the benefit of society, future generations and the planet. How would she respond to Ivan?

This is a really interesting question, which brings me to a campaign that We Move Europe worked on when the new commissioners came into office. One of them was Commissioner Schinas, the Commissioner for the portfolio “Promoting our European Way of Life”. We ran a campaign to question this name because we question the idea that there is a “European way of life”. Because the term has connotations, especially in the context of migration, that are really questionable in the sense of a kind of superiority complex. Are there different kinds of values in Europe? I’m sure there are. But I would simply say that when it comes to the European Union, what matters most is whether the values are actually lived.

So when it comes to the values that are mentioned, like justice, solidarity, democracy, equality and so on – are they practiced when you look at the European Union at large? This week Ylva Johansson, the Commissioner for Migration, landed in the Moria camp. She landed by military helicopter and got into a car surrounded by armed guards. What we read from reports on the ground is that she did not leave the car and did not speak to anyone there. So if solidarity is one of the values, how can the Commissioner for Migration not get out of the car?

And that’s exactly how she went to the Greek-Turkish border a year ago with Ursula von der Leyen. When Erdogan basically told the people, “Come on, you can cross the border”, they were then met with all kinds of violence. Again, the two top politicians of our institutions did not land with their helicopter to talk to the people fleeing, they just talked to the Greek authorities and called Greece a “shield for Europe”, which has all kinds of connotations, and that really brings out an almost warlike language. So if there is no solidarity in the narrative that is communicated by our leaders, and if there is no solidarity in practice, is it really there in practice? So for me, the most important question is not whether we have the values in theory, but whether they are practised.

We also put Ivan’s comment to Dr Inge Sieben. What does she think? Are there only national values, and no European values?

Well, he’s right, but he’s also wrong. So again a good question, because to really determine all these aspects as European values is kind of difficult. Because many people in the world appreciate these values. So it might not be specific to Europe, but the values of human rights are appreciated by many people. So in a sense it is difficult to say whether there are European values or not. But I don’t agree that there are 50 or more national values, because there is the same problem with national values: many people may think the same in one country, but still there are many differences. And sometimes two countries can be very similar. So I would say that European values are a better definition than national values.

But still, it is important to know that as researchers we find that there are many differences between people, even within a country. In fact, the differences between groups of people are greater than the differences between regions or countries. And of course it is true that context matters. Where you live or where you were born matters, but individual characteristics, such as the family you grew up in, also matter.

Finally, Marion left a comment arguing there is a contradiction between the values the EU professes publicly and the Union’s actual behaviour, especially when it comes to the refugee crisis. She says: “There’s lots of talk about having to defend our values. But where are those values when it comes to our fellow human beings at the EU’s external borders?”

We have put Marion’s comment to Despina Spanou, who coordinates EU Commissioner Schinas’ Cabinet on “Promoting our European Way of Life”, which is responsible for the New Pact on Migration and Asylum. How would she respond to Marion’s question?

I understand what she means when she says she is ashamed. It is true that we can no longer accept not having a European Union asylum and migration policy. We have failed. With the proposal we have made on the new migration pact, we hope that we will finally get there. And I think all the parameters are there. We need a European approach, we can no longer have some member states that are more generous than others, some that are more prepared than others, some that are more negative than others. We need a European approach. We need a proportionate approach to asylum seekers versus those who are not accepted.

We also need to protect our borders, we also need a very balanced approach to everything. But I think it is indeed very important that we agree on a uniform asylum procedure in Europe. At the same time, with the new migration pact, we have also tried to do something for the rest of the world by addressing the sources from which these migration flows come. So we have stepped up our work on the external aspects of migration, working with the countries where the migrants come from to try to promote peace and opportunity in those countries. But also to make sure that we have a balanced flow of migration from those parts of the world where it is necessary that they lead to people who are eligible to apply for asylum in Europe versus those who need to be sent back or resettled. So that is a very, very important aspect of our current work on migration – to address the source of the problem, also to help people while they are still over there in their countries looking for a better future.

Last but not least, how would Laura Sullivan, Executive Director of We Move Europe, respond to Marion’s point?

I would say: Marion, do you want a job? Because that’s exactly how we feel at We Move Europe. Since 2013, we have been like the proverbial “slow-boiled frogs” in Europe. What do I mean by that? We have been slow cooked in the sense of a narrative that started around 2013 when the far right in Europe compared people on the move to criminals, to bad people who either wanted to steal our jobs or were very lazy (they couldn’t decide which). And since then, unfortunately, our EU leaders have not adopted such directly toxic language, but have almost turned the language and narrative into something extremely robotic.

Let me give you an example. If you read any of the texts around migration, you will see the words “flows” or “illegals” much more often than “people” or “folk”. We reduce people to facts and figures and “flows” and “illegals” rather than people who have rights. Basically, I would say that as a pro-European and as a director of We Move Europe, I am concerned and ashamed of the path the European Union is on. It can be made good, but we need to start making amends pretty quickly.

What are European values? What are European values for you? Are there European values at all or only national values? And does the EU live up to its values? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below and we’ll take them to policymakers and experts for their reactions!



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  1. avatar
    Крис

    I hold this truth to be universal – that all human beings are born equal in dignity and have these unalienable rights of life, liberty, security, justice, property, thought and happiness!

  2. avatar
    Stefanos

    Any kind of shared and common values will create anxiety and exclusion feelings to the ones who live in Europe and they don’t share. Another taboo that Political corectness is not letting you discuss…..

  3. avatar
    Michał

    The only common European value is logical cinstructivism.

  4. avatar
    George
  5. avatar
    EU Reform Proactive

    I can’t help to express my helplessness to figure out why the FoE/DE keeps repeating riding, riding, riding & forever riding their “E-values”- hobby horse until total exhaustion. Should you not know, please do some research.

    Sorry for asking: not gone to Finland, entered & jumped- not won a medal? It’s not my hobby & won’t make the rest of the world better. It only increases the feeling of guilt & dependency on the holy EU empire of 27 nations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KissGTSlKy4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAxeAWoj7I

  6. avatar
    harman_877

    Being in control of football rather than allowing Americans usurp their control over a culture they don’t understand

  7. avatar
    Gabor

    Intelligence, knowledge and science before superstitions, respect towards other human beings, open mind. All those good things we lost.

  8. avatar
    Olivier

    I share very little with socialist view of Europe

  9. avatar
    jthk

    Can people live only with values? When people are so interdependent and interconnected with the development of the global system, talking about values would lead to more conflict than cooperation for mutual benefit and collective security. EU is founded on grounds of collective security to avoid the third world war, do not divert attention again to values and ideologies such as equality and rights which are not able to quantify. When everyone has their own standard, how can we meet all aspirations? As modern society has its legal structure to hold government responsibility, it is better to work out things rather than talking, dreaming and fighting for values, particularly when the whole world is in the pandemic. How to survive and secure the economy is most important of all.

  10. avatar
    jthk

    Why China has such a long and unbroken civilization of over 5000 years? It is because the Chinese have been busy fight to survive from all adversities of the nature. They have no time for empty talks on values. Still now, the Chinese leaders have no beautiful and bold values to win support but to raise the living standard of all so that people can have the kind of living they are looking forward to. It is just insane for Europe to sanction China with a piece of fake news fabricated by a BBC reporter. As the UK has already left the EU. A prosperous EU doing business with China for post-pandemic economic recovery would make the British looks stupid to stop doing business with China for the US has returned.

  11. avatar
    jthk

    It has just disclosed that Chinese national enterprises investment in the UK in 2020 was just 23 billion pounds. It was 99 billion pounds in 2019. In addition, the UK has started removing Huawei equipment. Huawei has also announced the closing down of offices in the UK which has brought 1600 jobs. In 2018, Huawei had decided to invest 30 billion pounds to establish a research center at Cambridge. It seems that the decision had also abandoned. What value of these irrational political decision has brought to the British people?

  12. avatar
    jthk

    When the American president Nixon had visited China for the market share in February 1972, when China was still overwhelmingly governing in communism and planned economy. Why the America had totally ignored the American values of democracy and doing business with a communist country? The Japanese immediately established the diplomatic relationship with China in September 1972 well before the US. What the history has told us is that European values serve to promote European unity but they should not be used as a tools for politicians to fight for their political interests while sacrificing collective interests of the collective i.e. European interests.

    • avatar
      jthk

      Foreign policy/international relations should better be reserved for professional politicians and elected political leaders of all member states at the EU Council. The EU Parliament should better be putting more focus on internal matters of the EU.

  13. avatar
    jthk

    European has the freedom to construct a set of values as normative guidance at the domestic level but they should not be used to pressurize other countries to following at the international level. All civilizations ought to have its own values and should be respected. People who have a knowledge on international relations and European history ought to know that the UN Charters regarding things on state sovereignty and boundary, etc. are virtually basing on the Westphalian Treaty signed by nation-states of Europe to stop the 30-year war on 24 October 1649. Supporting the UN is equal to support an ancient European values. The Chinese have successfully worked out a “Socialist System with Chinese Characteristics”. Xijinping has been calling to build a “community with shared future for mankind”. In my opinion, it looks like a mix of Marxist socialism and the “great unity” mentioned in a Confucian classic Liji. When searching for European values, do not forget what Europe has already had.

  14. avatar
    Крис

    The ,,authoritiarian” Lukashenko is elected by the popular vote of the Belarusian people 5 times in a row. Who elected the ,,democratic” leader Von Der Leyen? No one. Because the President of the EU Commission is not elected by popular vote.

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      Yvonne

      Крис Караджов Mrs. Von Der Leyen was elected I saw that election and vote….and I believe that your own Mr. Lukashenko rigged his own election as a tallie was taken at his election and according to that tallie …he did not win….so please be very carefull what you write here

    • avatar
      Крис

      Yvonne O’Neill 1. You didn’t vote for Mrs. Von Der Leyen. You voted for representatives in the EU Parluament. That’s not the same.2. Lukashenko is not ,,my own”. He is not my President because I’m not Belarusian and he is not my slave so I don’t own him. 3. There is zero evidence that the Belarusian elections were rigged. A person who wins Presidential elections 5 times in a row can’t start manipulating elections in his fifth time. If he manipulated them that would have started in the mid 90s when he came to power. Why the EU said nothing back then?4. Find someone of your own category to argue with.

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      Yvonne

      Крис Караджов Good morning….please dont be rude..and if mr. lukashenko is not your leader you have nothing to worry about..i know absolutly nothing of Bellarussia but hijacking one of my planes(yes im irish and am part owner of the airline like my other compatriots)!!hijackinking one of our planes to cart someone to Bellarussia to be tortured for his “Freedom to speak” openly and peacefully..is wrong. full stop . What should be done about that..is the question here..and the only thing we are aloud to do is Sanctions (but as im an ordinarry citizen and aloud to speak freely without fear of reprisals..personally..i would put Mr. Lukashenko in a room with the leaders of the G7..and watch the mayhem..let him feel the fear for a while..and i am a passifist..i would then sit him down with not a hair on his head touched and say..well mr. lukashenko what exactly did you acheive by doing that to an ordinary blogger and person? realy do you want to start WW3?be my guest and sit in the cheranoble chamber for a week and see how well you feel after that!!please..dont tempt me..im just an ordinary housewife and must go a nd put the washing on the line now!!..but like you i do have an oppinion..and no one is aloud to put me down for just having an oppinion.May i wish you Peace..and Mr. Lukashenko may i especially wish you peace..you realy need it..please let the blogger and his wife go..you have nothing to fear from them..they are frightened people ..just like yourself…Peace People..life is just too short ..greetings from Ireland :D ☘

    • avatar
      Rokas

      Yvonne O’Neill we have these commentators here in Lithuania too. I see the same bullshit arguments on here, just in English. Seems like the troll factories are working day and night. Whataboutism being their greatest weapon. Always blaming everybody else, praising Lukashenko, etc. Seems like they weaponized social media pretty well.

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      ABH

      Yvonne, the leaders of the G7 are weaklings, puppets, fat cats, serpents. Not men.

  15. avatar
    Boyko

    Sanction Austria as well, for the grounding and takeover of Evo Morales plane in 2013.

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      Debating

      Possible double standards? Does this mean the EU should stay silent on the abduction of a journalist in Belarus?

    • avatar
      Boyko

      Debating Europe Possible? As it becoming trendy – highly likely. Same thing did Poroshenko in Ukraine, landing by force a Belarusian airliner in 2016. Everyone kept quiet. European values seem rather selective.

  16. avatar
    Dawid

    “European values”? Nonsense invented by Liberal propagandists

  17. avatar
    Dawid

    “How should the EU respond to authoritarian tactics from such dictatorships? “It cannot and will not do anything meaningful, that is why the others are brazen. It is in bed with many such authoritarians

  18. avatar
    Roberto

    I have an idea: what about actually doing something instead of posting loosely related stuff on Facebook? The only thing that happened as of today is that privately owned airline companies stopped flying in the Belarus airspace. The EU, as always, is sadly absent in any matter that happens literally at its borders.

  19. avatar
    Yvonne

    It’s a difficult question…1. Sanctions are the only way…but it often has an effect on innocent people and not the dictator…..2. Calling the dictator out biblically around the world might make them change. 3. Bring the dictator to a meeting with the G7….possibly….have lots of security on hand!!…I’m sure that would be an interesting meeting….4. Write down a list of things that the EU finds wrong with the regime ..then write a list of how to do it correctly in the eyes of the EU and maybe publish it in papers and all media..asking for peace and stability for the sake of their people’s and the world….after that I would probably cry a lot

    • avatar
      Franco

      Yvonne O’Neill I agree, I´m afraid it´s political propaganda. Europeanvalues are not the same as in Turkey , in the United States or Russia and we should not try to change their values. EU will never write down a list like yours, so let us have mutual respect among all countries.

    • avatar
      Yvonne

      I agree with the mutual respect Mr. Mallus but they cant hijack one of our planes and torture a blogger and his wife and expect the world to sit back and watch and say nothing.Im sure Mrs. Von Der Leyen has had a meeting with Mr. Lukashenko..personally i think ,(just as an ordinary housewife) that they should bring Mr. Lukashenko to a meeting of the G7 and see the sparks fly there..you cant just hijack a plane and torture someone and expect to get away with it !! anyway Peace..at all cost Peace.

    • avatar
      Aberhon

      Yvonne. I don’t see you moaning when the Chocolate Baron of Ukraine forced a Belarussian aircraft to land.

  20. avatar
    Piotr

    Draw a rainbow with crayons. Radicalize overlays for Facebook profile photos. <3

  21. avatar
    Andreas

    Aaah yes ….Belarus the easy target for EU…for Turkey EU is closing her eyes constantly…

    • avatar
      Debating

      Why do you think Turkey is getting special treatment from the EU?

    • avatar
      Leopold

      Debating Europe Because it’s obvious? It’s like “why do you think that sky is blue?”

  22. avatar
    Zdravko

    Lukašenko was elected by popular vote, I don’t remember having an option to vote for Von Der Leyen or any of the cronies who rule from Brussels.EU has no right to call out “dictators” since it is governed by unelected bureaucrats itself.Although I do remember an incident in 2013 when your greatest ally, the USA with the help of a EU member state tried to do the same thing you accuse Belaruse of, even hijacking a plane which had a president of a sovereign country aboard.Brussels is a den of lying snakes and a prison for nations of Europe.

  23. avatar
    George

    EU values became clear when Austria forced a diplomatic plane to land to be searched for Snowden, on the order of USA.A lot of the EU leaders have become puppets of a foreign nation, which means they commit treason on a daily bases, just as the media and NGOs which support that.

  24. avatar
    Chris

    Erm, who elected the eu leaders? The eu isn’t exactly democratic itself so maybe look inward instead of outward

  25. avatar
    Børge

    First, democracy calls for investigating facts before jumping to conclusion. Supporting riots are not democratic as most riots are only supported by a minority. As long as a country with the majority of major media outlets located in the Parliament complex is accepted in the EU, countries like Belarus should, too.

  26. avatar
    Panayiotis

    EU now is ready to change things, first they will correct things among their friends, first the gang leading Turkey, then will go in Arab world, and continue with Africa, they will such democratic changes so Lukashenko will terrify and run away

  27. avatar
    João

    Cutting any kind of relationship with Bielorusssia…. Isolate the country!!

  28. avatar
    jthk

    As we can see that American populism is increasingly dominated European democracies. This means traditional European values are being replaced, unfortunately by American style of stealing, cheating and lying. What are European values? Should European values be replaced by the American values, representing by hypocrites Obama and Biden, or the real villain Trump ?

  29. avatar
    Olivier

    European values are Christian values… And Greek values about democracy

  30. avatar
    Крис

    They don’t exist. ,,European values” emptied of content.

  31. avatar
    Chris

    Do you mean European Values or the lack of values from the eu?

  32. avatar
    Craig
  33. avatar
    George

    Democracy,unity,prosperity,safety,diversity.

  34. avatar
    Dawid

    The entire notion of “Europe” itself came from being Christian and not wanting to be under the Ottomans. There isn’t even a “Europe” geographically.

  35. avatar
    Natasha

    It’s either culture, or war.

  36. avatar
    Andrea

    European Values?Our way or the highway.Illegal immigrants have more right that citizen.Science is just a bat we can use to spread our political bs (see covid, see climate) and we will soundly ignore it if it goes against our ideology (see abortion, see transkids, see gender, see genderpaygap )Citizenship mean nothing.If I can’t contribute to push my country out of this orwellian nightmare i will gladly relocate to the few place in the western world that have not succumbed to woke marxist bs.And i’ll watch this ship sink from the shore.

  37. avatar
    Franco

    I don´t think that Jean Monnet and Robert Schuman started talking about Europe, it was not about the Europeans values.

  38. avatar
    Roman

    When you apply the principle of liberal values to Europe, you must think first about European institutions and other international agreements such as United Nations and NATO. Nations choose them because they have common aims like ensuring freedom. Russia nevertheless criticizes more and more international rules. I don’t really know to whom you apply your principle. Ukraine is outside so I don’t what to say something according to it. Ukrainians have nevertheless their right to live and decide about themselves und these are common human rights that have to be put first. The fact that some European coutries vary about sanctions to Russia show that we have various views on liberal order.

  39. avatar
    Alejandro

    your values are dying in Ukraine right now , wake up , ACT! Speak up. !!

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      Arnaud

      How would you define these values? What would you like to see happen?

    • avatar
      Alejandro

      The very basic values of the European countries are, Human dignity, Freedom, Democracy, Equality, Rule of law, and Human rights. , No single one of these, is respected in Putin’s dictatorship and his satellites states. Ukrainians are fighting for years to be able to break free from that darkness and now they are literally being bombed and dying because of that, how us all Europeans who consider ourselves “Democrats” would be able to look tho the eyes of those people again? while we are literally doing nothing, This is not Ukraine war, this will change Europe as we know it, History is a good teacher, if we don’t act now, very bad consequences will come to Europe in the next months and years. and then will be too late.

    • avatar
      Rémi

      Now, the european empire can’t grow more!

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      Lili

      Really? 🤔 😁 The dictatorial regime is afraid of who? 🤔 Europe will not move til borders or chance its plans to remain democratic! It is Russia who needs to take care of their own problems and corruption etc! Focus on Asia, not on Europe!

    • avatar
      Nesta

      Its worth listening and reading what Putin has said about the US being an Empire of Lies.

  40. avatar
    Ivaylo

    Russia is right this time.
    They just wanted security guarantees. No one gave them such.
    Related to this Russia is not an aggressor

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      Support of Russian people of Putin is very large, I don’t see dictatorship there.
      Corruption is wide spread in Europe, USA, Brussels ( I mean the EU and European Commission) so it is explainable why the west doesn’t like Russia !

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      Lili

      You guys don’t know what democracy means, by the way! Russians had never experienced it yet! There is not so much coruption in West like you guys consider from over there. Some try, but if there are caught and many are… they are in big trouble! If the former countries under URSS don’t want to deal with this brutal regime from Moscow any longer, why to apply force upon them? 🤔 It will bring more gap and hate… In our days, you cannot keep with force 2 people together, what should I say about big nations!?

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      You really don’t understand the situation about Ukraine. Also you have no idea about the corruption in EU and USA.
      Please find a hobby and stop talk bullshit 😉

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      Roman

      Ivaylo Makariev your logic is Russia is right because it’s Russia. And that’s because people like you would roll tanks over other people’s countries, am I right? You like “convincing” people with force. Nobody hates Russians! But I hate what your president is doing there. I don’t understand what you expect like Ukrainians should do for you after you kill them and destroy their country.

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      Lili

      Well, I am happy that you understand it better than me or us! But there are very good of brain-washing over there, it seams like…

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      yes, and you are following it very clearly and unquestionably 😉

    • avatar
      Lili

      Shame on you that you support what Putin and his regime are doing to their neigbours!

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      Ivaylo

      😀 stop it. You need to read really really a lot. History of Bulgaria, Russia, the region, politics, economic and current diplomatic political and economic situation in the world to talk about this issue.
      Shame on you, to be not knowing the stuff, as most of the world as it appears.
      Still if you want I can send you couple of articles video and other stuff, which are facts not opinions, so that you know better understanding of the things

    • avatar
      Lili

      Leave me alone with history!!! If we go back all the time… we will get very confused! Take care of the present and the future! By the way, referring to the history… Do you know that Bulgarians and the other slavic nations, as well Hungarians live on my ancestor territories (dacians, thracians, geto-dacians, ostrogothi, etc.) Why, you guys, the slavics, had to flee the nordic areas of Europe and to take away our lands? 🤔 You guys can go back to Russia where you belong to. 😁 That’s call history which you ignore it in our days!

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      first I was talking also about present not only the history

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      What nation are you, there is Thracians blood in our veins ( the Bulgarians )

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      Russia is protecting themselves from accepting Ukraine in NATO and eventually USA would install rocket near Woscow and the major Russia cities.
      How USA would react if Russia do this. Much more aggressively that Russia, USA would deal with it.

    • avatar
      Lili

      bla, bla… 😄 All the Slavic nations did not belong to Balcans and Carpanians or Panonia… they came from today Russia areas. The bigest prove is the languages. If you guys were the locals, you were speaking today latin languages as romanias do… So, please, don’t bring the history in discussions!!

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      You even don’t know history.
      By the way the Bulgarian are not only Slavic, but Thracians and old Bulgarians, so update your history knowledge …

    • avatar
      Lili

      That’s the reason why Bulgarian language is a dialect of Russian language…? 🤔

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      actually it is the other way around.
      Cyrillic alphabet was created by Bulgarian in Bulgaria and we gave the Christianity and the alphabet to the Russians … come on you have to begin to pay me for history lessons

    • avatar
      Lili

      Listen here, you don’t know history! I refer to the times before Slavics moved to south of Europe, those lands were my ancestors lands! The language was a latin dialect at that time… Well, I don’t care about your Slavic language and alfabet, by the way!! 😃

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      before the formation of the Bulgarian nation here were the Thracians, so no Latin dialect here, sorry 😉

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      What are talking about. You proved you don’t know anything about Bulgaria and the ancestors of this land.
      Who are you anyway …
      Second hand person I would say

    • avatar
      Lili

      Do you know about Roman Imperium and the fight with Dacians? 🤔 Of course not, because at that time, you guys were living in Siberia… 😂 😂

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      Thracians I suppose have Leica here long before your people.

    • avatar
      Lili

      You don’t know so well history as you pretend, Ivaylo! Dacians, thrancians, getho-dacians, getaes (we call them geți) were from the same people. They were my ancestor! They were there before you guys, as Slavics had settled there took over… You didn’t not integrated there, you took over… Your names are still Slavics, the language, even the mentality of barbarians after so long, you did not change! 🙄 Read here! According to Herodotus, the Getae were “the noblest as well as the most just of all the Thracian tribes”. “The Dacian people had earlier occupied lands south of the Danube and north of the mountains, and those lands as a Roman province eventually included wider territories both to the north and to the east. The Dacians were of Thracian stock and, among the Thracian successor peoples in the region, were most akin to the Getae. (Indeed, the similarities between the groups led the Greek historian Herodotus to label both as Getae, while the Romans referred to all these populations as Dacians.)”

    • avatar
      Lili

      Well, the specialists in our days don’t know the DNAs of ancestors in Europe… But what it is obvious is that the population in Bulgaria have the exactly names of the bulgarian immigrants, still speak the language of the bulgarian immigrants, (a dialect of russian language not the locals), the mentality is still connected to Russia…And you want to tell me and us that you guys are the ancient Tracians? 🤔 😁 😁 If so, very few of you or maybe at all… Maybe they had to flee the area because of massive barbaric slavic immigration…

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      you are really not smart, and you are and you do not trust the science …
      As I said Russia could be said is dialect of Bulgarian language, also Bulgaria is kind of the cultural foundation of Europe ( or at least a lot of west and east famous people are saying things like this) Really do study history and may be you need to enter schools from grade 1 to rebuild you way of thinking

    • avatar
      Lili

      Whatever… If russian language is a dialect of bulgarian has not meaning here! You are origins are from Russia area, it is not the russians who imigrare out, us the bulgarians. Right?

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      just maybe Russians didn’t have one. Also the Orthodox Church language is in fact old Bulgarian language 😉
      As I said read more.
      Bulgaria is created by 3 groups: Thracians, slaves and old Bulgarians ;$

    • avatar
      Lili

      If you were Thracians’ predecessors, you were not speaking bulgarian today … 🙂

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      I am Bulgarian, not Russian. You should have looked at my profile first before commenting. The most of our modern society is like this – mainstream non thinking and not checking the facts people.
      Russia and Ukraine has long history, a lot of lands has been given to Ukraine for free from lands of Russia – like Crimea.
      If you have inform yourself Russia wanted security agreement, other case there would be military solution and they stated that they don’t want war. The West didn’t do anything. The West wanted this, so they can put sanctions to Russia to weaken it.
      Read some more articles and interviews.
      P.S. Sometimes the west media do not translate what Putin do saying, but puts completely different text 😉

    • avatar
      Roman

      that is true, I haven’t checked your profile for your nationality. I was looking only at your arguments. I have the Ukrainian flag in my profile for different reasons than yours. You are arguing through history and security. Russia does not admit that Ukraine has right to decide on its own. Russia claimed to have peaceful military exercises. But they were in fact preparing their military action. As fights will go on and number of victims will raise, people will understand that there is war there going on. I don’t wish anybody solving problems in this way. I don’t glorify NATO. Russia and America are still caught in thinking about the world in bipolar terms. Russian people will only loose on this conflict in many ways. It don’t find it apropriate to say that “somebody has his right”.

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      What does this mean, Ukrainian can decide, in a perfect world yes, freedom is everything. But if they are accepted in NATO, USA would put assault weapons against Russia. Less than 5 minutes rocket travel time to Moscow.
      What would you do if you were in the position of the Russians. I would do the same as them.
      USA would do as what Russia is doing, but far more aggressively.
      Like it or not we are living not in a united world and everyone is for himself.
      What if NATO has given security guarantees to Russia. Probably there would not be war right now.
      But in my opinion USA wants to weaken Russia, because their goal is to destroy Russia as it is.

    • avatar
      Roman

      NATO giving securities to Russia? We both know it is not realistic. We need rather a different security structure for the world, without hegemony of USA. They perfected their ways to set up conflicts around the world, whereas somebody else have to pay for them ( see Russian and Ukrainian people). Look at Europe- it’s forceless in order to solve this conflict. So returning to the proper debate: yes, the so called liberal order is not working.

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      about the securities Russia was talking about it, I suppose mutual checking on the real situation with the weaponry.
      Neutral Ukraine, that was the perfect thing.

    • avatar
      Roman

      the neutral Ukraine idea sounds good but I am afraid, things came too far already 8 years ago. There are still demographic and social- economic reasons playing a role to Ukrainian choices. The outcomes are tragic.

    • avatar
      Gonzalo Franco

      Compare the life in the countries that left Rusian orbit such as Poland, Lithuania… or those that stick to Rusia. It s that simple.

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      is it that simple. Is EU trying to promote the “gender” ideology. Isn’t EU corrupted. Can you check the cancer spread across the world, related to sugar intake for example ( I will leave you without giving you the answer here )
      The truth is not one. But definitely Russia has changed a lot and a lot of Russians like Putin.
      Of course the west doesn’t like that Russia is on their feet, but the West doesn’t like anybody strong that is not playing their game.
      Definitely the use of “white stuff” in the west is very very high. There was article about being used in the UK parliament. Come on, where are we heading really.
      Money, corruption, power that what the west is. Where are the moral values – like real ones, not on paper and false statements?

    • avatar
      Gonzalo Franco

      life expectancy in Rusia and in Europe? Come on!

    • avatar
      Ivaylo

      I didn’t say Europe and Russia … just check what I said.
      I am talking more about the EU caring for its citizens. I don’t remember now how is that statistics in Russia.

    • avatar
      Lili

      Russia “take care” of their people with fear and supresion for so many decades! Russia is manipulating politically the neigbours countries and do not want to let them become democratic and free! How can you compare Russia with EU? 🤔 There is not such comparisons!

  41. avatar
    Georg

    I like the picture of European and Peace-Flags in front of a church.

    • avatar
      Rémi

      So long they aren’t in…

    • avatar
      Georg

      that’s my point.

  42. avatar
    Olivier

    European values are Christian values… But it seems that you are keen to give a large room to Islamic bvalues and to prepare a future civil war on Europe

    • avatar
      Georg

      Olivier Dutreil, wrong. “Ius omnes equus est – Equal rights for all” is a product of Nero’s administration (who was not overly sympathetic with Christians). Would your assumption be true, it would not have been the church at the forefront to fight them. Also the right to be heard was unfathomable for the Church. Let us not start with social equality or even measures against poverty. Christian values are not so christian at all. They are but a selective interpretation of Greek ethics which are rooted in ancient middle East values (centered around today’s Ankara). For your second point, where do you see Islamic values in a European context? Apart from the fact that the vast majority of Muslims in Europe do not care very much about Islam. It is my opinion that the EU-Charta should be taught early in school. Two more points regarding education. History should be taught from today backwards until the stone-age – which is a specialist topic, while constituting a peaceful social Europe is actually important. This makes it easier to integrate stories of refugees into our history. Demanding your rights and being free from war and oppression is a good story. Taking this seriously I think will make new Europeans feel recognised and easier for them to identify with their new home. The Europe of today did not come about by chance. It was a very huge effort to make it happen, overcome historic enmities and work together. Not saying that this is enough. We made history and have to acknowledge that by strengthening our values with new actions.

  43. avatar
    Julia

    European values are not the same as EU values. EU values have agendas and pick and choose values that match their agenda and ignore any other situation that doesn’t fit their agenda. Additionally, with European values it really depends on the aggregate levels of ignorance and bigotry. If the majority of people do not question or challenge or know their rights, then they can enable any evil-minded authority to carry out this evil.

  44. avatar
    Lili

    NOW IT IS THE RIGHT TIME RUSSIA GET RID OF THIS KREMLIN CRUEL DICTATURE!! PLEASE APPEAL TO RUSSIAN POPULATION TO STAND WITH UCRAINA AND PEACE IN EUROPE!! THEY ARE MANY WHO WANT A BIG CHANGE IN RUSSIA AND THEY DESERVE IT AFTER SO MANY DECADES OF SAFERINGS!! Let’s pleed for A Future Free And United Europe (including Russia)!

  45. avatar
    Peter

    Right now? Choosing gas over Ukrainian lives

  46. avatar
    Anton

    Eu has no more values, the vote not to exclude russia from SWIFT is showing that EU is weak! This also might be the end of the union made of cowards!

  47. avatar
    Yannick

    The main rallying value is giving a voice to the people, EUs citizens, as opposed to giving only a voice to a single thug, like in Russia or Bielorussia

  48. avatar
    Anonymous

    Currently, as we speak, EU values are very clear: in Germany gas prices is bigger concern than people lives in Eastern Europe, the same applies to Italy, where LUXURY goods also are way more important than lives in Ukraine. It was one thing to criticize Poland for their “values” (I never supported them anyway), but now look, how tables are turned and masks fell off! It’s easy to say, that Ukraine is not a member of Nato and EU, but they belong to EUROPEAN family and we we still have shared responsibility to maintain peace and order in our continent! But it seems no! It only counts if terrorist attacks happens in “old” Europe, but Eastern Europe – who cares, right? So since yesterday, our as EU values are only measured with euros and dollars. Also with current our stance we are just growing the price we will have to pay with our own lives. History lessons are being ignored by now because of our stupidity, ignorance and neglect. Good luck with that. Good luck…

  49. avatar
    Apolinaras

    Currently, as we speak, EU values are very clear: in Germany gas prices is bigger concern than people lives in Eastern Europe, the same applies to Italy, where LUXURY goods also are way more important than lives in Ukraine. It was one thing to criticize Poland for their “values” (I never supported them anyway), but now look, how tables are turned and masks fell off! It’s easy to say, that Ukraine is not a member of Nato and EU, but they belong to EUROPEAN family and we we still have shared responsibility to maintain peace and order in our continent! But it seems no! It only counts if terrorist attacks happens in “old” Europe, but Eastern Europe – who cares, right? So since yesterday, our as EU values are only measured with euros and dollars. Also with current our stance we are just growing the price we will have to pay with our own lives. History lessons are being ignored by now because of our stupidity, ignorance and neglect. Good luck with that. Good luck…

  50. avatar
    JT HK

    The so-called Russia aggression can also been seen a to secure the permanent peace of Europe. In my opinion, Ukraine’s role as the buffer zone is very apparent. It is like Netherland, Belgium, Luxembourg and Switzerland, which have been play a very important buffer zone preventing direct confrontation between big and powerful states so as to secure peace of Europe. So, Europe has to think on behalf of the people and make wise choice between war or peace by referring to the original formation of EU, which is to prevent the recurrence of World War III. Europe has been dying enough people in the pandemic which is still raging, which has been causing great difficulties to the people…

  51. avatar
    Tony

    EU has no values. Just corruption, globalization, abuse taxing of it’s citizens, allowing big corporations to pillage it’s citizens and loss of rights. If we had any values Putin would not have even thought of Ukraine, but he is so sure of our weakness that he is even now threatening Finland and Sweden. I guess when your priorities are who uses mens bathrooms and steer away from making a strong society that is able to defend itself this is what you get. This is your wake up call EU.

  52. avatar
    JT HK

    Avoiding populism is the only way to secure European democracy, peace and democracy. People all over the world have been plagued by Covid-19, two years of development for Europe, citizen and economy as a whole. There is need for peace so that social and economic recovery of Europe can be possible.

  53. avatar
    JT HK

    Biden has successfully realized Trump’s demand on Europe increase of military expenditure just by forcing Russia to demilitarize Ukraine? Clever!

  54. avatar
    JT HK

    Following the NATO led to fuel the Russia and Ukraine conflict is pushing EU into the blackhole of a collapsing the US economy supporting by printing money. EU political leaders and citizens has apparently forgotten the Kosova War of the last century and the Arab Spring which have led to serious refugee influx, capital flight and related economic disruption at Europe.

  55. avatar
    JT HK

    EU appeared to be sold and still helping to count the profit for a warmonger. Rather than discouraging the military conflict between Russia and Ukraine, EU leaders are sending weapons for Ukraine people to kill. This is totally against the union’s formation to pursue European peace.

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