Should the EU sanction Roman Abramovich? The billionaire owner of Chelsea Football Club is included at the top of a list of individuals put together by detained Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who is urging the EU to implement targeted sanctions against key figures close to Vladimir Putin.
Navalny may have published his list in part because Europe has a new tool in its sanctions toolbox. On 7 December 2020, the EU passed the so-called European Magnitsky Act (modelled after a similar act in the US), which enables the bloc to “freeze assets and impose travel bans on individuals involved in serious human rights abuses”.
Should Europe sanction individuals close to the Kremlin? Alaxei Navalny, an outspoken critic of Putin, has been sent to a penal colony for two and a half years for missing parole meetings while recovering in a Berlin hospital from a poisoning attempt. Following his arrest and the release of a documentary accusing Putin of corruption, Russia has been rocked by some of the biggest mass protests since 2012. Navalny is now calling on Western governments to sanction “key enablers and beneficiaries of Russian kleptocracy, with significant ties / assets in the West”.
Should the EU impose new sanctions against Russia? Is it time to use the recently approved “European Magnitsky Act” and implement targeted sanctions against Putin’s top cronies? Should the EU sanction Roman Abramovich? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below and we’ll take them to policymakers and experts for their reactions!
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Mirror, mirror on the wall who are the biggest Corruptors and Corrupted of them all?
Why select Russia? What about diplomacy? Mr. Putin is just one of many corrupt political rascals, “skelms or Schelms”!
https://www.iwm.at/transit-online/putins-self-destruction/
He shares this dark and dubious reputation with other corrupt top politicians, some “honorable in parliaments”, the blatant dishonorable, the moral & ethic bankrupt, the ruthless dictators, some unashamed Royals & Nobles, some greedy Bankers & flamboyant businesspeople & some supra wealthy individuals- even the poor ex freedom fighters (like the ex “uMkhonto we Sizwe” in SA)- wielding absolute but corrupt “democrat power” nowadays.
It forms a network of a border-free global Oligarchy! They hide, deflect & defend their dishonesty by all means, until death & thereafter- using instruments like “Trusts & Foundations” etc.
Who else needs all these secretive & impenetrable Tax Havens? The middle & higher income earners- being ordinary folks? Who is determined & willing to touch & abolish these havens of the elites? Nobody- shame!
Investigative journalism has done a very good job by revealing enough credible evidence- e.g.: contained in all these revelations below:
The “Hongkong Shangai Bank”- HSBC money laundering scandal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC#Money_laundering
or the “Bahama Leaks” ……https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Leaks
or the Mauritius Leaks …… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius_Leaks
or the Paradies Papers……https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Papers
or he Swiss Leaks………….. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Leaks
or the FinCEN files……… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinCEN_Files
or the “The Panama Papers”:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318038923_Why_did_the_Panama_Papers_not_shatter_the_world_The_relationship_between_Journalism_and_Corruption
https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/57161f07a1bb8d3c3495bc36/
Should the EU be serious about “equality” & political ethics- I wonder why is there so little action?
There is a “United Nations Convention against Corruption” (UNCAC): https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/treaties/CAC/
And the EU’s counterpart: “The EU Convention against corruption”
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_20_2416
Was anybody convicted & sentenced yet by the UN or the EU?
Which countries are the global “champions”?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
Help for some who may be struggling to open the links of the Bahama leaks & Paradise Papers:
*the underlined links can be directly (left) clicked on (the finger appears)
* the not underlined links need to be highlighted & a right-mouse-click allows to select “Open Link”.
I seem to find myself in agreement with the romantic rethoric of the rightwinger above me.
Conservatism has adopted a beautiful emancipatory discourse against the elites of this world, corrupt leaders and crooked businessman.
They also indulge themselves in their own echo-chambers, whereby the prefabricated communication agenda that stemmed from the deep entrails of the Internet (namely 4chan) was brought into the mainstream by Steve Bannon, Brexit and Trump 2016.
The enemy? George Soros, the “globalists”, “deep state”, the feminists, the progressive open borders, gays, blacks, communists and beta males.
Some even take it further and romanticise the non-existent state of Rhodesia despite never even lived there and/or partake in the positive portrayal of right-wing authoritarian regimes, because they fought the socialist threat and promote traditional conservative values.
That is why the commentator above me criticises the EU, for being a progressivist sellout while Putin upholds the righteous crusade against the leftist Enemy.
But I agree with him nonetheless, not in the sense of defending the Apartheid and immigration control, but rather in the matter of the EU becoming a bureaucratic shithole, with the perpetuation, since the Cold War, of a decadent, unnecessary animosity with our Eastern neighbours; with the arrogance of superiority that defines the classical Western identitarian imperialism. NATO is useless and the US is not to say who we are to be enemies with.
Sanctions only feed the Russian propaganda machine that we Westerners are against them by all means. We give them reasons to despise us. Of course Putin is an authoritarian bastard, but the Russian people are already putting their lives and their bodies at risk to denounce the mistreatment and abuse that their country’s authority is able to inflict upon them.
As an international organisation the EU should denounce these behaviours but by no means it is in right to directly intervene in the situation to gain something for them. EU only sanctions when it favours their interests, because there is a self-perpetuated animosity with Russia, but instead it claims to do so from a mere moral and ethical point of view. I can’t stand this pretentiousness, this image of crusaders that the EU tries to convey to the world. EU shuts up and looks the other way when Saudi Arabian women are beaten and raped in a dark prison cell.
No, we should not focus on sanctioning anyone, but rather in making our own institutions resemble the image that we try to project to the world.
Greetings from a perceived romantic right-winger!
What I learned about left-right confusion was to look at your hands. Left was always where your thumb pointed on your right hand & vice versa! That is how I overcome political & historical dyslexia.
It gets even better- I also suffer from protanopia and deuteranopia.
That taught me to be wary of the type of political and W. Hearst’s yellow journalism and rather believe in civic & investigative journalism.
Everyone chooses that or another (echo)-chamber. To find true facts and wipe away all mischievous fog is what’s important.
Relax, I am no competition & will never be in line for the Pulitzer Prize!
Enjoy life in Barcelona & keep well!
EU should impose sanctions on Germany, for their participation in a charade, of a washed out Russian politician, who drank WMDs and got a hangover, who is sponsored by foreign (USAn) interest with the distinct intention of sabotaging economic projects between EU and Russia.This time being naive and stupid should make Merkel criminally liable, and all EU politicians, supporting this charade, should be investigated for committing treason.
Dont think the sanctions will work try negotiating Putin and the boys wont suffer with sanctions the average and poor Russians will.
EU should impose sanctions on Germany, for their participation in a charade, of a washed out Russian politician, who drank WMDs and got a hangover, who is sponsored by foreign (USAn) interest with the distinct intention of sabotaging economic projects between EU and Russia.This time being naive and stupid should make Merkel criminally liable, and all EU politicians, supporting this charade, should be investigated for committing treason.
George Thomson nothing else to say, case closed.
George Thomson someone is buying into russian propaganda.
Dont think the sanctions will work try negotiating Putin and the boys wont suffer with sanctions the average and poor Russians will.
Why impose sactions against a country who is not an EU member state, has close ties with EU member states and provides resources which EU member states are dependent upon, over an internal affair?
Should the EU impose new sanctions against Russia?
Why? What is it Russia does that others do not?
How about the EU and the West start revealing what it is they want from the rest of the world? Give us all a break. And once they have the courage to inform us all, why not ask for our collective consent to carry out their projects above board?
The pandemic and dying of EU citizens and a Russian politician, who is more important? When a great power wants to kill his political enemy, he would not be so stupid to use his own pistol, and more importantly, would never let him escape…this is just by common sense. How come people lost even their common sense when talking about Russia?
Should the EU start dealing first with internal repression problems before any attempts for social suggestions to non-EU countries?
Yes, public officers and political leaders are paid for good governance in EU. We should not intervene into sovereign and independent nations for intervention need.
The cycle just continues on both sides:
Should left the room long ago
Would is hiding
Could is non existent at this point in time.
The EU is no ‘choirboy’ and its doubtful Russia even takes them seriously, if they did they would slap their fist on the table and watch leaders scatter
External intervention to change the structural power of an independent country is a crime which is against the UN Charters. It is only the people of that particular country have the say. When people call for intervention of foreign government, which means they do not have sufficient national support and they are the minority. How many wars the US/NATO have been waging on humanitarian grounds? How many of these war can really create peace and well beings of the people? How many public revenue that goes to military intervention of foreign countries while well beings and benefits of EU citizens are being ignored? Why people are panicking on the decline of Europe?
How EU is going to sanction the US? The US has supported Japan’s discharge of nuclear polluted water into the Pacific Ocean and currently transfer nuclear technology to Australia, a non-nuclear country. When the US is forcing EU to sanction Iran on the Iran Nuclear Deal, the US is proliferating nuclear in the Pacific Ocean, causing nuclear threat to East Asian countries and helping to pollute the Ocean.
It is time for Europe to invade in Ukraine, to put the Ukrainian government in jail,because they are neonazi , and to set there a democratic government.
Lies. There is not a single Neonazi in the entire Ukrainian parliament, let alone the government. Go on and show me one. You should start using your brain and informing yourself from actual sources. Real Europeans stand with Ukraine, only fake traitors back Putin.
is pretty sad that i m not allowed to post a picture as evidence.
Can you tell me who are the real Europeans?
Give me a name then, liar! Those that defend Europe, not those who believe warmongers from outside.
Dimitris Tsekouras Go on, show me one or two Nazis in the parliament of multiple hundreds of people. You can’t, because they don’t exist and you fell for propaganda. Stop being too lazy to do actual research, you pretend Info warrior.
calm down,is not good for your health to get upset .all you have to do, is to open your mind…
Yes
Absolutely and not as weak ones like before
Impose sanctions on Canada for their blatant fascism
Would you like to explain what exactly you mean?
Given the recent events in Ottawa, If I’m told a clarification is needed, it means it’s useless to give said clarification, sorry.
Justin finally and very kindly cleared out the Trumpist/alt-right/populist/conspirationist protestors out of Ottawa after a 23 day long siege, and we are all very happy for it, except for the handful of eccentrics who think Canada is like Russia or China, which is a very very very very far out opinion to hold.
I’ll help you out, Alex: by using an emergency’s act that should only be used in war-like situations or in a deep quasi unmanageable crisis as a last resort, giving a government full and ample powers without the need to submit its actions or decisions to debate and allowing it to declare a state of emergency and even to mobilize the army …against a foe that happens to be its own people. It’s incorrect to call it outright fascism, but it can at least be labeled as tyrannical and most unworthy of a Western democracy. This government has completely lost its credentials and its ability to effectively lead the nation of Canada. It’s leaves a bloody stain on so-called Western democracies. Maybe this trend – we’ve been seeing such overextended opaque, intolerant and draconian policies by clearly unstable surveillance-mad governments in many Western so-called democracies lately which can help explain why “so-called” populism is on the rise. There you have it. I guess your so-called (or shall I say self-declared) leaders will disagree. So prove me wrong, debating europe!
No
Putin is waging war against Europe and we cannot afford to allow that. Appeasement has never worked. No one wants war, but it is high time that actions have consequences. Sanction Putin into submission and if he gets even as much as three soldiers over the border of a free European nation, immediately retaliate.
Russia have said they dont want war, ukrain have said they dont war, MSM say continue to push the idea therell be one, all while totally ignoring the 10s millions worldwide standing up in leaceful protest against their own gov; lets not even mention Canada
Yes. Get all the dirty Russian money out of the Tory Party coffers. If any got stuck to the PM’s pockets that should go too.
Thank you so much for having this forum..I’m very sad that Vladimir Putin has entered Luhenske and Donbas(with so called peacekeeping troops). I’m not sure he knows what he is doing!how can a president of another country enter one belonging to Ukrane without being asked to !!and cause a war!! which is what he is doing..i do think people have a right to self determination(as in what country and where and as a democracy or whatever ) but the people of that country must be able to support themselves..financially.So therefore…the people of Luhenske and Dunbas should elect a government ..have a vote and pay Ukrane whatever is the correct ammount of money to purchase these two states and then continue as seperate countries from Ukrane. But i would like to ask…1. have they the money to purchase this land? and 2. and have they enough money to run a small country..like purchasing goods and services for the entire region? 3. and who would they purchase their goods from?( Ukrane or Russia) ??? I’m from Ireland south and as such realise only too well the need for the right to self determination….but having the money to run the country or region…this is where i get stuck !! :D..anyway i realy do hope this situation is resolved successfully ..without bloodshed..and to the people of this regions satisfaction…If it was in Ireland i would say have a referendum..this would determine what the people want..hopefully..and after that it would be prioritizing how to proceed legally and peacefully.Peace and negotiation..peace at all cost please..best of luck ..from just an ordinary mum from Dublin Ireland.
Russia shall take care of their own problems! They have plenty of them from corruptions, dictatur, brains-washing etc. They shall keep the focus on Asia! Europe does not need Russia!
Yes..impose sanctions but keep talking and negoating with russia,Ukraine,Luhanske and Dunbas.it is so important..peacefull negoations please.
These tough sanctions should had been imposed to Russia since 2014. They do what they are doing, because it is working for them! You should be prepare to give sanctions to any other country which will support Russia from now on… Russian state needs to learn the limits! It is still the biggest country in the world even if some states became independent. They want freedom from totalitarism, corruption etc.
Problem is that the German public are mostly fools, who have absolutely no understanding that they are dealing with people who live in a fundamentaly different world and even now I’m not sure that the far left Russia romantics will wake up
That’s true! And it is not just about Germany. I noticed that people do not know to make clear distinctions between the old comunism regime which builded itself up on the industrial epoch and the realities! Those who are nostalgic to those times is because those times were industrial/economical prosperous and that the regime had the policy: everyone to have a place to stay and a work to earn money from. These benefits from those times are kind of challenges in our days…
whouw sanctions on obama for his coup d’état in Kiev 2014 thats what you say🥳🥳
Sanction for navalny ? He studied and worked in the US payd by ? USA 🥳🥳
Sanctions for Géorgie where the président Saasvilisi
Studied and worked in the US payd by USA 🥳
Sanctions on Kiev for the 14.000 dead? in tbe Donbasque ?
Please learn history I know very difficult being brain dead 🧠🥵 from US. NATO propaganda against Russia
We are talking here about sanctions against Russia, not others! The split between Ukraine and Russia will be forever, because Russia did and continue this big mistake to try to control Ukraina by force! Big mistake!
I did not k’ow this 🥳
My wife ex Ukreaine later Russian in 2015 voting référendum in Crimea
Where she was living and here parents till now in Crimea donc
Brohter livs in Moskou
Fahter orig Ukreaine. Mohter Russia
Families are travelling on we or vacations. Or partys from one side to the ohter
No problems
Younger a few are pro EU US lnfuence by Miami Vice 🥳🥳 ce Older peopel are 50/50 pro EU or pro Russia
Sind Orange revolutions started more an more SLIT IN THESE FAMILYS
WHO STARTED these ORANGE REVOLUTIONS AND WHY
USA History is fulltime destroying countrys to exploit them NEVER TO HELP LETS BE CLAIR
For 150 years RUSSIA IS THE BIGGEST ANEMY FROM THE US WHY
Russia is the biggest country in the world 11 time zones
The greatest commoditys on eart in juste 1 singel place
Thats why the devide where possible
Médias are fuckink corrupt over the years ONLY PROPAGANDE ALL OVER THE WORLD
USA. CIA has billions for this purpose
In declasified you can even find figurs pro year$$
Vietnam
Afghanistan
Irak
Syrie
Lybie
Sudan
Venezuella
Ukreaine
Just the last ones
NATO. US MONEY MACHINE for the military complex in the us 52% from working civilions are working in the military complex all over the US
2022 military spending 768 billions
China 198 billions
Russia 49 billions and 10 years ahead in technologie yes 10 years
Where are US cosmonautes training where do the leave to ISS
Its al and only Russia !!
Where do the US military and civil aviation supply 95% from there total TITANIUM need RUSSIA
Who did world record whit 1 US cosmonaute and 2 rusiand in october 2020 from cosmodrom ( see google) take off to connect 3 hours
US SpaceEx 24 hours
Who supplys the 164 prop engines on all. NASA SPACE AND MOON TRAVELS For almost 16 years now
RUSSIA. RUSSIA US hypocrisie all over
Where is US getting gas snd oil when the demand is high in very cold winters R
This is NO PROPAGANDE FIND OUT
Declasified
Who iw James Steel the one who kild freely in Irak for the US
Why Assange is in prison ?
To make a long story short: USA did a big mistake to agree with Russia after the World War II to give Russia the right to control Eastern Europe and this without asking these countries if they want comunism or control from Russia! So a big abusive control in fact! Russia and comunism did so much damages (some countries lost their identities, did not speak their mother language, lost their wealth, ruined economical etc. ) to these countries and their people from all points of views that we (I am an Eastern European myself) grow to hate Russia and comunism! EASTEN EUROPE AND EUROPE DO NOT WANT TO DEAL ANYMORE WITH RUSSIA AND THEIR CORUPTED, ABUSIVE REGIME! Russia had dissapointed us, not USA or any other countries even if they also did mistakes in their decisions some time ago. Europe see in USA a protector, a good colaborative friend state. Russia should take care of the own problems and their system and focus mostly on Asia, not on Europe! Who believes in Russia strongly, they should emigrate to it, and leave us, we who have other aspirations in our lives alone!
super! Ja, je hebt groot gelijk! De bevolking kent geen geschiedenis.
We got enough of bad history! Keep it there to yourselves!!
They should face the same sanctions as was placed upon the USA for illegally putting troops in Syria…
They have more rights in Ukraine than the US in Syria.
Can there even be questions? Chancellor Scholz just has stopped northstream 2. But this can only be considered a very save first stage meassure that could be taken now. What else needs to follow needs to be decided in the next days and weeks. Weather it’s tech exports, the SWIFT system or saizing Russian oligarch stuff in the west or maybe all at once, that needs to be decided in the near future
Alex Rot shutting down Nord Stream plays into the hands of America.which wants to sell us over priced gas.
How many of the EU élite have been compromised to bring this short-sighted response into being.
Who benefits? The people in Donbass and Luhansk who have been bombed indiscriminately for the past 8 years by a fascist government in Kiev?
I doubt it?
Ordinary Europeans who now face rocketing energy costs on top of carbon taxes and bank interest rates rising?
No.
This is all being orchestrated to beggar the man in the street and it will cause trouble for those behind it.
The yellow vests in France and the Truckers in Canada will be like summer rain compared to what is coming down the road in Europe and America.
“shutting down Nord Stream plays into the hands of America.which wants to sell us over priced gas.” The question is why would I care? That narrative of the US profit of something, so we have to do the opposite is a pile that the Russians like to push. The reality is that the majority of Europe did never want this project and the narrative that it’s European vs US interests is nothing but playing us against one another. It is directly involved German economic figures earning on it colaborating with the Russians vs US and European interests. Ask the French. They gonna tell the same thing
pose some sources pls.
https://www.dw.com/…/france-presses-germany…/a-56411291
I could also hand you one with Bruxelles beeing against it
Russia shall take care of their own problems! They have plenty of them from corruptions, dictatur, brains-washing etc. They shall keep the focus on Asia! Europe does not need Russia! NO BUSINESS WITH RUSSIA EVER AGAIN!!
These sunctuons should have been imposed since 2014 or earlier…
Stop playing the USA geopolitical, geostratigic and economic interests/games. The Minsk agreements never were fullfil. EU interest’s first.
No.. USA are responsible of this conflict by proposing Ukraine to join NATO. Ukraine must stay neutral and Europe must stay away from USA our worse friend who will be the great winner of a conflict by doing Russia and Europe weakers
I am not a fan of Putin and i am against Russian actions in Ukraine BUT we have to be honest with ourselves. Our countries were silent when our allies redraw the map outside the UN framework. Now, others play the same game against us. We opened Pandora’s Box with Kosovo and now we see many “Kosovos” around us. I am not sure how sanctions can help Ukraine. It is proved that sanctions don’t work especially against Russia since entire Europe depends on Russian gas.
No sanctions, it will be a big mistake. It will turn back to the EU. This problem is only about the gas delivery, because Germany is a big problem is this. They must take them responsibility. And than you have Biden and co the war makers who want to deliver their gas!! It’s all about money, nothing else! Shame on you, you can’t handle this without making troubles to the people!!
Als de kansen gelijk verdeeld zijn
Dan maakt het personeel-authentiek selves het verschil
No. Nato expansion next door to Russia is evil and part of the usa’s game. We are friends to Russia our big trading party. We need to implent sanctions on afrikan/ arab countries who do not accept their citizens back that are illigaly entering europe!! We need to sanction turkey voor occupying cyrpus and syria. We need to sanction the gulf states for slavery and their dictatorships. Russia and ukraine are our friends they need to work out their problems without us.
It is time for Europe to invade in Ukraine, to put the Ukrainian government in jail,because they are neonazi , and to set there a democratic government.
Yes
Absolutely and not as weak ones like before
Impose sanctions on Canada for their blatant fascism
No
Putin is waging war against Europe and we cannot afford to allow that. Appeasement has never worked. No one wants war, but it is high time that actions have consequences. Sanction Putin into submission and if he gets even as much as three soldiers over the border of a free European nation, immediately retaliate.
Russia have said they dont want war, ukrain have said they dont war, MSM continue to push the idea therell be one, all while totally ignoring the 10s millions worldwide standing up in peaceful protest against their own gov; lets not even mention Canada
Yes. Get all the dirty Russian money out of the Tory Party coffers. If any got stuck to the PM’s pockets that should go too.
Thank you so much for having this forum..I’m very sad that Vladimir Putin has entered Luhenske and Donbas(with so called peacekeeping troops). I’m not sure he knows what he is doing!how can a president of another country enter one belonging to Ukrane without being asked to !!and cause a war!! which is what he is doing..i do think people have a right to self determination(as in what country and where and as a democracy or whatever ) but the people of that country must be able to support themselves..financially.So therefore…the people of Luhenske and Dunbas should elect a government ..have a vote and pay Ukrane whatever is the correct ammount of money to purchase these two states and then continue as seperate countries from Ukrane. But i would like to ask…1. have they the money to purchase this land? and 2. and have they enough money to run a small country..like purchasing goods and services for the entire region? 3. and who would they purchase their goods from?( Ukrane or Russia) ??? I’m from Ireland south and as such realise only too well the need for the right to self determination….but having the money to run the country or region…this is where i get stuck !! :D..anyway i realy do hope this situation is resolved successfully ..without bloodshed..and to the people of this regions satisfaction…If it was in Ireland i would say have a referendum..this would determine what the people want..hopefully..and after that it would be prioritizing how to proceed legally and peacefully.Peace and negotiation..peace at all cost please..best of luck ..from just an ordinary mum from Dublin Ireland.
Yes..impose sanctions but keep talking and negoating with russia,Ukraine,Luhanske and Dunbas.it is so important..peacefull negoations please.
These tough sanctions should had been imposed to Russia since 2014. They do what they are doing, because it is working for them! You should be prepare to give sanctions to any other country which will support Russia from now on… Russian state needs to learn the limits! It is still the biggest country in the world even if some states became independent. These countries have their own right to want freedom from totalitarism, corruption, russian dictature, etc.
They should face the same sanctions as was placed upon the USA for illegally putting troops in Syria…
Can there even be questions? Chancellor Scholz just has stopped northstream 2. But this can only be considered a very save first stage meassure that could be taken now. What else needs to follow needs to be decided in the next days and weeks. Weather it’s tech exports, the SWIFT system or saizing Russian oligarch stuff in the west or maybe all at once, that needs to be decided in the near future
Stop playing the USA geopolitical, geostratigic and economic interests/games. The Minsk agreements never were fullfil. EU interest’s first.
No.. USA are responsible of this conflict by proposing Ukraine to join NATO. Ukraine must stay neutral and Europe must stay away from USA our worse friend who will be the great winner of a conflict by doing Russia and Europe weakers
I am not a fan of Putin and i am against Russian actions in Ukraine BUT we have to be honest with ourselves. Our countries were silent when our allies redraw the map outside the UN framework. Now, others play the same game against us. We opened Pandora’s Box with Kosovo and now we see many “Kosovos” around us. I am not sure how sanctions can help Ukraine. It is proved that sanctions don’t work especially against Russia since entire Europe depends on Russian gas.
I fear Europe and the west in general might be a little too religious about so-called national borders. I’m not against regions like Catalonia or Scotland to separate and become part of the EU. These two regions of Ukraine are already majoritarily pro Russia and Russian speaking. If that’s what people want, let them be. I don’t think Russia will go beyond, going for Kiev should be a red line, but not those two regions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language_in_Ukraine
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I see it the same. Give him the 2 regions, draw the border new and make Ukraine (the rest who wants to be away from Russia) part of the EU. Problem solved!
at the same time we have to be careful with not allowing the putin-style leaders to get away with getting everything they want at the threat of force. It is so ridiculous in 2022 to see tanks along some borders, I think there are better ways to create new lines (e.g. referendums) and we have bigger problems to fight (e.g. climate-induced ecological collapse)
With Russia is never “problem done”… Putin and his regime is a dictature …
These severe sanctions should have been given to Putin and Russia for a long time! Russia had to be economically isolated like North Korea for many years.
Why they don’t move to Russia, it is not too far away? Why to fight with the neigbours and “brothers”? 🤔
yes..immidiatly
😂😂😂 really but soon your OCMW would be not enough to buy bread 😂 in Belgium
Stop buying their gas.
EU is sadly a major hypocrite. When it comes to Russia they are always ready to impose sanctions and strict measures, but when it comes to other countries doing the same or worse, even threatening its own member countries, it turns a blind eye.
Sanctions against Russia ? Is Europe prepared to pay the “extra” Energy cost associated with it ? This is Madness…
If you don’t wanna pay the extra Energy cost you can prepare to receive russian troops in EU. Putin don’t wanna stop in Ukraine.
Picture from Ottawa ?
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I am watching you from Afghanistan,want to see how you people kill each other’s we are suffering because of US and their allies wish the worst war and destruction to you people
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Put sanctions against the dictator JT. A terrible dictator in what you call “a democratic “country. Shame on you!!
Who is that?
He is not a dictator! But now omicron is more mild, so restrictions shall be lifted… soon it will appear another version of covid which will scare us again. So stay calm and protect your lungs and hearts!
No they shouldn’t. They should leave well enough alone. Russia does not want a war. It is NATO sympathizers that want troops directed at Russia, for whatever reason, money, resources, access to the North Pole and its resources, geopolitical power, … you name it. If Russia would not be threatened by NATO troops, they would have never decided to recognize the Ukranian provinces/territories. But Russia is threatened. And PS Europe is just a pawn.
And another PS: War will rage over Europe and Russia, but the US will once again remain unscathed.
Luckily
Nato existe,otherwise we would all be occupied by the Russians,like the eastern countries were.Poland,Hungary ,etc, know what it is to be occupied by Russians.
you are talking about the USSR, we are living in a different world now, 30 years later.
Great answers to these ignorants or brains-washed!
Better be occupied by the russians than the yankees…
O yes, better live in a dictatorship where people just get killed or disappear.
btw , are the russians paying good?
Sounds like the USA jailing somebody like Assange or Snowden…
big difference between a opponent politicians and people working for a goverment that sell or give away information about that goverment…
That’s why the iron curtain was built ,to prevent people from leaving the Russian paradise.
really?
Lol, where did you study darling? 🤣
lol, where did you? 🤣
Brussels :))) However, as a 90s kid from post-Soviet space, you don’t know much than me about Russia’s regional politics 🙂
I don’t know much than you?
Yes because your analysis is insanely illogical 🙂
well, you must be right then.
🤣
Nonsense! Wake up to the reality!! Russia does not belong to Europe, they have no right to demand what European countries, including Ukraina, want and decide for themselves! Russia is acting in a criminal, violent way as usual and than they blame it on others! Russia belongs to Asia and their focus shall just be there and take care of their own problems (coruption, dictatur, etc) !!! NOT EUROPE SHALL MOVE THE BORDERS AWAY, RUSSIA SHOULD DO IT! IT IS A VERY BIG COUNTY AND VERY NEGLIGENTED! THEY SHALL LEAVE ALONE THEIR “BROTHERS” UCRAINES!
no, just no. You have to read your history books.
You should read some psychology books!
why?
Because you have issues understanding some major realities!
If the KGB is behind you with a gun, drop a hint.
You are unusually stupid.
I’ll take that as a compliment. Thank you.
Please.
If you don’t know the history of Eastern Europe, use intelligence and don’t add stupid comments
you are very naive. He is a paranoic.
Dit is maar een afleiding van Europa om thé great Reset te kunnen doorvoeren en Europa in een dictatuur te duwen
No
Sanctions isn’t going to stop Russia.Talking buys them time. Ukraine, you’re on your own. Decide.
You have questions about it?
Against Canada maybe?
Leave Russia alone and stop the Green New Deal nonsense that is killing the people of Europe by increasing the cost of energy for households.
Russia shall leave alone their “brothers” ucraineans!
Agressors.
…à tous les connards pro russe…relisez les accords de Munich 1938…quand on baisse la culotte on reçoit des fessées….!!
No they should not.
Russia shall take care of their own problems! They have plenty of them from corruptions, dictatur, brains-washing etc. They shall keep the focus on Asia! Europe does not need Russia!
Impose rather sanctions on Canada and Australia, two rogue states which have become tyrannical regimes, far worse than North Korea
So a few restrictions for antivaxxers is the same as killing your opponents. Ok ….🤣
The EU should do exactly the same thing they did when Blair and Bush invaded Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction. Which never existed. Now the EU should do what they did then which was nothing.
Any sanctions would make Russia just even more stronger and more independent from EU. Just like China..Ps. not all territories of Russia developed enough and receive gas now .. you refuse nord stream 2 , and this will benefit those regions and their development in Russia .. people living there only happy about it. And happy about sanctions, so no more money would going away from Russia but would stay in Russia and invested in developing of Russia. Putin expected that kind of reaction and he very talented strategist. Sure Russia ready for this sanctions.
Nope.
fubthe EUSSR
Only Trump could stop putin. Vlad laughs with all the other boy scouts.
Hay naku .sabi ng dyos magmahalan di magpatayan
Look guys to make the world a better place we need to be realistic Putin is wrong
Why the cradle of civilization which is Europe must shed blood again
De EU wordt geleid door decadente afgedankte pubers !Dit zijn de gevolgen ! Zij stimuleerden de psychotische drang van Putin !Gevolg : nieuwe genocide !
The Eu are the tirans they want all the country-s to do what they want, and the people must pay
NATO IS A PROBLEEM NOT Rusia
i’m very very angry on NATO, they didn’t respect the agreements made with Russia after fall of Berlin wall. THey played with fire and now they burn us all
It’s important to look at the other forces of Russia.Where are their SSBN ?Did they deploy mobile ICBM ?And don’t forget China.
Don’t panic, a Belgian MCM arrives.
Without the text you could think you are anywhere in the “civilised” world since a year or two
Fuck the EU, the EU is looking for a war…
No
I will be not surprise for Russian bots “sharing a thoughts” here.
Puttin whant ukraine for settle his submarins
Why would the EU endanger EU citizens’ lives by doing that? The EU needs to stay out of this.
No. We should impose sactions on the countries that do not take bake ikligal migrants or countries that occupie tibet syria cyprus
Hahaha on that site… ur comment is awaying moderation… so much for opinions and free speach lol just like our arabb dictatorships when will we sanction then for their slavery and lack of democratie? Or the invasion of yemen by saudi arabia
NATOVSKA VESELO BLEDA PROPAGADASTETA STO NIKOJ POVEKE NE I VERUVA !
Sancțiunile voastre sunt date nu de faptul ca va distrus draga UE bazele și laboratoarele din insula șerpilor și din alte părți a Rusiei.
Adevărul doare , dar va fi mai frumos cabd va fi dar pe fata .
PUTIN ASESINO ASESINO YA TE LLEGARA TU HORA
Sanctions are sufficient only when Russian missiles stop exploding in other countries. Putin doesn’t stop by himself.
Attention seekers none else around probably played.
Yes
EU needs to go that’s what morons.
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