In the 1930s, Bonnie and Clyde seemed unstoppable. Their gang was infamous for a series of brazen bank robberies, zig-zagging across state lines to exploit rules that prevented police officers from following them into another jurisdiction.
The United States was confronted with a problem. Bank robbers could cross borders, but law enforcement officials could not. By the 1930s, automobiles had become widespread and criminals were more mobile than ever before.
America found a solution in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Agents of the FBI had federal jurisdiction, allowing them to investigate and pursue felons wherever they went.
Today, Europe faces an even more mobile threat. Transnational terrorism and criminal gangs exploit freedom of movement within the European Union to evade capture, and the good guys often struggle to keep up.
We had a comment from Alexander, who believes that the chances of “preventing the next big terror attack in Europe would be greatly increased if European intelligence agencies did more to share and pool resources. Information sharing between agencies in particular could be improved.”
To get a reaction, we took his comment to Dr. Sajjan Gohel, a visiting teacher at the London School of Economics whose research includes radicalism, terrorism, and trans-national political violence. What would he say to Alexander?
Intelligence sharing is critical to counter-terrorism. Without it, it becomes much harder to foil and disrupt terrorist plots… The November 2015 Paris attacks, or the Brussels bombings at the airport and railway station, those were examples of people that had actually travelled abroad to carry out an attack in Europe. One thing that has unfortunately aided them has been the ability to travel across the Schengen zone unhindered.
Now, of course, freedom of movement is a key principle of the European ideal, and it’s something that is very important. But the problem with that is that terrorists are misusing it. Another example would be what transpired during the Berlin marketplace attack in December 2016. The individual that carried out that attack travelled across five countries after the attack before he was identified in Italy and killed by police.
The reason why I mention these examples is that you have so many people that are using the Schengen zone to travel, and if you are going to have freedom of movement then there has to be a mechanism whereby information can be exchanged between various countries, law enforcement agencies and intelligence agencies. There needs to be a real-time information exchange so that a plot can either be prevented or, post-incident, an individual that may be on the run can be quickly identified and apprehended. So, intelligence sharing is absolutely critical.
Now, you have Europol, which principally interacts with national and federal police forces, but it doesn’t really interact with intelligence agencies, and that restricts access to potentially significant information. Last year Europol actually announced the formation of the European Counter-Terrorism Centre to combat terrorism in Europe, and to try and act as a central information hub to boost cooperation. It’s too early to judge whether that will be a success or not, but that is a very important mechanism that could fill the gap that currently exists.
To get another reaction, we also spoke to Rob Wainwright, Director of Europol. His agency has no executive powers, and acts to support national law enforcement agencies rather than launching investigations independently. What would he say to Alexander?
We also had a comment from Betti, who thinks Europe needs its own version of the FBI.
What did Sajjan Gohel think about her suggestion?
Finally, we put Betti’s suggestion to Rob Wainwright, the Director of Europol. Did he see a need for a ‘European FBI’?
Would a ‘European FBI’ help prevent terror attacks? Or is such a thing politically impossible? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below and we’ll take them to policymakers and experts for their reactions!
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We already have ‘Interpol’ ??
Interpol, like Europol, does not have any operative or coercitive force. It ist just another, yet international institution to cooperate between countries to share information and support law enfocerment agencies.
We already have Interpol. If it’s not enough, then improve it.
Interpol is nothing.
They don’t investigate, they only track down, they don’t prevent anything and they rely on national police…
“If it’s not enough, then improve it.”
Multinational corporations often set up matrix-like organisational structures with some of the local staff reporting to the international parent organisation, cooperating with each other on international issues. They are local employees with the local expertise, cooperating with other local teams yet they work on international projects.
The organisational expertise is already available, it only needs to be applied.
Well said!
Bodis- really? Why put your trust in an international “bureaucratic” body of 190 members instead of a close to home “leaner, meaner & professional Europol?
Did you know: a former Interpol “What’s all the fuss about crime?” president from 2004-2008, late Mr. Jackie Selebi (found guilty of corruption & sentenced to 15 years in 2010 in his corruption ridden home country South Africa)- is surely not what (international, regional & local) crime fighting should be all about- or?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#Secretaries-general_and_presidents
NO, because the problem is not the policing but the politics behind the policing. At the moment Europe seems to be brain dead
^^^ SO MUCH THIS ^^^
Help by improving the union. It is very easy to negative, punk is old history, remember !
Don’t point fingers, sugest solutions!
Yes!
here’s more about FBI origins:
http://exiledonline.com/russia-blog-6-the-fbi-has-no-legal-charter-but-lots-of-kompromat/
Very reputable source of information, sure.
thank you for your snarky input, also
Its like “European Union will make all crisises go away”
Totally biased, unuseful and will be used by the IV Reich to just control people outside thier Caliphate.
exactly, it is wishful thinking. In the same non.logic of this old Italian TV ad: “to paint a huge wall, you will need a huge brush!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58X0xV-zK4
europol, maybe…
More than external terrorists, we need to watch out for internal. And I don’t just mean religious extremists.
Explain to the masses that now they’ll have a foreign police hierarchically superior to theirs, they’ll flip the fuck out with this conjecture !
Even though it’s rational but will only happens if we get a truly functioning federal system in Europe, which is far away from tomorrow…
Plus we’re getting more concentrated and cooperative organs looking over that topic.
Obviously what we need is better coordination between the various police authorities of EU also it might sound sad but some countries should “militarize” a little bit their policing forces in order to have better response time to modern threats
that sounds like post hoc but not ad hoc approach…
Hmmmm the way I see the problem we have two big issues: 1) we can’t prevent terrorist attacks mostly because of problems that have to do with not getting the info in time ,wrong estimations about a threat and poor coordination. .for example a person any person but especially a person without “papers” can easily do a crime in one EU country and get away even ask for protection to an other ( fake documents exc) it’s really easy to “slip away ”
2) in most European countries police is considered to be a ” civilian agency ” which means that many officers just don’t” fit ” to a environment of a constant threat as we saw during the incidents at Germany and France regular police forces couldn’t but down 2 or 3 persons with rifles or shotguns and they had to call the counter terrorist unites or the army…i think is quite obvious that you can’t allow 2 terrorist to mess up an entire town(like in Germany) and you can’t have the army patrolling the streets of ever (like in France)
Ps sorry if I do some mistakes i can’t help myself thinking in my language ?
Hmmmm the way I see the problem we have two big issues: 1) we can’t prevent terrorist attacks mostly because of problems that have to do with not getting the info in time ,wrong estimations about a threat and poor coordination. .for example a person any person but especially a person without “papers” can easily do a crime in one EU country and get away even ask for protection to an other ( fake documents exc) it’s really easy to “slip away ”
2) in most European countries police is considered to be a ” civilian agency ” which means that many officers just don’t” fit ” to a environment of a constant threat as we saw during the incidents at Germany and France regular police forces couldn’t but down 2 or 3 persons with rifles or shotguns and they had to call the counter terrorist unites or the army…i think is quite obvious that you can’t allow 2 terrorist to mess up an entire town(like in Germany) and you can’t have the army patrolling the streets of ever (like in France)
Ps sorry if I do some mistakes i can’t help myself thinking in my language 😉
interpol , europol ??
Hi Kevin! Europol supports national law enforcement agencies but has no executive powers of its own (unlike the FBI). In fact, we interviewed the Director of Europol, Rob Wainwright, for this debate.
NO THANKS! The FBI plans, colludes and participates in political assassinations, manufactures crimes and evidence and and stages terrorist attacks, making them the REAL terrorists. As a US citizen, I am ashamed of AmeriKKKa, the people, the government and the culture of oppression. We already have interpol and cross-border police cooperation, while maintaining national sovereignty. It is time for Europe to walk away from a Hollywood ideology that does not represent European values. By the way, where are the European military bases aiming their guns at the local population in AmeriKKKa?
Treaties allowing people to move with great Freedom across the Borders are a great thing but the Politicians went too far when they didnt exempt known criminals and terrorists from this freedom. Why should a German with a history of bank robbing be allowed to travel unhindered to Switzerland, why should Romanian scammers known to Romanian Police be allowed to get on a airplane to the UK, why should known Italian Mafia be allowed to drive to Austria, I emphasize KNOWN bad guys, ofcourse there are unknowns but those who are known we can actually stop if we make laws to stop them. But the Politicians chose not to. My Country Switzerland was not allowed to deport a British Citizen who killed someone here after his release from prison and there are many such examples from all over Europe. Cross border crime is encouraged when known criminals can cross borders legally and that is a fact. People who commit serious crimes must have consequences. They cannot be expected to enjoy the same rights like law abiding people.
Yeap.. Coordinate the efforts. With open borders, we need more coordination in all aspects of defense, security and intelligence. This should be happening already.
Preventing terror attacks calls for highest learning in comparative religion and Islam in particular, mindset to see Islam as danger to Christians first and to others after, though islam started Jihadist conquests the other way round, and authority and readiness to act against Islamic Terrorism 24/7 sleeplessly with tenfold deterrant force..
The european border agency FRONTEX is helping illegal immigrants to ILLEGALLY enter Europe. I am afraid that the “European FBI” could support terrorism.
We can already suspect some degrees of Jihadi infiltration in the armies and agencies of several member states, namely the “old immigration” ones. e.g. http://news.sky.com/story/germany-fears-islamic-state-is-trying-to-infiltrate-its-army-10645559
Would only be used to fight those who oppose importing terrorists from Libia, Africa and Middle East.
A stronger #europol is what we need.
It will only improve the hold of the EU on common citizens. Terror is a problem existing elsewhere and IMPORTED by the EU in Europe (Eu and Europe are two different entities).
Absolutely. Ours prevented 9/11.
Europol needs teeth and to be free to operate across EU countries against terrorists, drug dealers and traffickers.
SPOTTED THE USEFUL IDIOT!
#1 – Terrorism is a purposefully overblown issue, a political boogeyman that neither the autoritharian left nor the xenophobic right are willing to dismiss, because the boogeyman is too useful to both of them in their respective ways.
#2 – In case of any doubts: drug war is a cover-up of corruption and a counterefficient failure that only made the problem of addiction in the West even worse and gave rise to a new black-market niche to be filled by mafias and cartels. Anyone cynical or blind enough to support the drug war should have their voting rights revoked. We don’t need fear-monger-able idiots to distort the already imperfect democracy we have to live under.l for the lack of anyhing better.
European joint intelligence service would!
Probably not
I think any co-operation across EU nations on defence, security, intelligence is vital and sharing costs particularly with no dependencd onTrumps America.
Thanks to God that standpoint was cast off in 1945.
Poland does not have terror attack. Ask them how they do it. They simply dont sacrifice their own people on altar of political correctness. EU is inviting terror. All this is EUs fault
10/10; If only the EU madmen could understand what they’re doing to Europe ….
we in Italy don’t have them too, our last governments abolished de facto the maritime borders and made ourselves a quiet highway to northern Europe…so no attacks. But now our neighbours closed their borders so only God can help us.
Gog&Magog Well, I feel sorry for you. Wasn’t it Angela Merkel who’s to blame? Shouldn’t she have made sure EU member countries’ citizens are able to deal with such a big number of immigrants? I believe there have been other ways of helping Syria.
NO
Does the American FBI stop, or, prevent terror attacks? Does MI5? Does the set up already in place throughout Europe stop them, slow them down or do anything that makes you ‘believe’ it is helping to prevent them? Does anyone at the top really want them to be stopped? Or, is it a good way to to fool the people into giving up the little freedom they have left?
Lol…….Close borders and proper checks on who comes in and out might help…..But thats all water under the bridge now….Wake up Europe, before you dissolve like an aspirin.
NO!
All Latin nations are more corrupt than most Northern EU nations – according to Transparency International.
Many EU Latin nations cannot even run their own countries responsibly so why on earth would I entrust their representatives with FBI-like powers.
Germany had and still has problems with Nazism – again why on earth would I entrust their representatives with FBI-like powers.
The EU is fundamentally flawed – its powers should be reduced NOT expanded!
No. What will end terrorists is accepting a multicultural society where everyone respects each other. But for now if we could stop bombing and destroying their countries for oil and gas that would be a good start.
They are still shell shocked from WW2 hammering they got.
No. Borders will. More EU control is not going to solve the problems the EU itself, caused.
The one good thing about the brexit is that we dont need your opinion anymore
Holy shit what an obvious troll.
It will be just as successful as current member-states’ services. They do in fact prevent a lot of terror acts, but some slip through the cracks. An EU-wide service would be no more effective and would cost
Sharing police information is just a must !
yes. its called Interpol.
europol* and its not the same
Europol already exists!
Yes please! We need these cross state institutions to handle cross state criminality and terrorism.
Please mais it fast!
@Pedro Castro
LOL!
Yeah right! Like the EU is competent at competences!
better to use Interpol properly…
no. fuck off.
did in the US?
forse sono rimasta al feudalesimo, ma non c’era l’ Interpol che svolgeva quel compito in Europa? In Australia c’è la polizia federale oltre ai corpi di polizia statali
It wouldn’t.
They should just legalize drugs and introduce self driving cars and use police to protect citizens from politicians
What next laws will be taken away from EU-SSR citizens by implementing it?
The law to send back people with your views into the Middle ages where you belong.
Tchoum Xav Stay with you communism where you belong.
PS: i prefer to be sent ot middle ages rather than live in radical communist POS called EU-SSR.
Tchoum Xav Poland has been through what you haven’t and where EU is heading for these days….
Not bombing other countries might help. The terror attacks are revenge.
Yes because maybe we should give into AQs demands of returning Spain to the Muslim world right ?
Was it revenge from the IRA? Black September? ETA ?
ETA was certainly revenge for the killings by Franco in the Barque country during the dictator ship and then GAL group, who carried on killing innocent people even after the arrival of democracy. If the west is bombing in a country, whether you agree with it or not, you cannot be surprised when attempts are made to strike back. The intervention in the Middle East is all about oil. They will end up talking to ISIS, because the war on terror cannot be won by either side. Why not talk now and save a lot of lives?
David Coughlan IRA. BLACK SEPTEMBER? ETA was still bombing after Franco.
After democracy in Spain Steve, the GAL group were a Spanish Government death squad who continued to kill people in the Basque country. The `people killed were not members of an armed group, but Basque politicians who supported independence. The fact is if you go half way around the world to bomb someone, why are people surprised that there are attacks in the west? Rightly or wrongly, it is revenge in their minds. The same with the IRA and Black September. In their minds, they thought they were carrying out revenge attacks against repression. I do not agree with their attacks on the innocent. If they feel they have a grievance, they should attack political leaders, not innocent people in the street going about their business.
Well at least we agree on that
No because the EU keeps letting them in through the front door.
Where is this front door you talk about?
Everywhere in Europe, haven’t you heard of Shengen space meaning every fucking EU country ! sorry for misspelling Shengen
The open door to all terrorists and others
fuck no, we need LESS america !
Oh dear god no whenever the e.u gets hold of anything it turns 10x more expensive and 100 x less effective (migrant crisis)
It’s “funny” because, of the 100k migrants that need to be relocated from Italy & Greece – only 10% were taken by the EU countries… So you’re 100% wrong.
No I’m not wrong at all the e.u handling of the migrant crisis has been pathetic the e.u has become a navy for the people smugglers they have no idea how many people have come to the e.u and no idea where most are
@Tchoum Xav
All EU asylum seekers should stay or be relocated in Italy and Greece – that way their GDPs will grow and the indigenous corruption within same will be diluted by waves of non-EU immigrants.
Terror attacks are perpetrated by the departments of the special agencies like that. Most of those involved are later eliminated to wipe out the traces.
no way
Terror is a silent and hidden thing
Yes
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No it won’t, all it will do is reinforce the big brother mentality of Brussels.
YES it would. European police, intelligence and army shall be established as soon as possible
Not voting would prevent terror attacks most effectively.
Off course it will Europol doesn’t have the authority to arrest anyone without nacional polices help, if they could arrest someone their wouldn’t be blow out of operations on corrupt country’s and policies, the autonomy and crime fighting would be much more flexible and fast, FBI in the US quickly solves a lot of threats in Europe the process is much more slow because we don’t have a agency with funds and autonomy like they have on the US, so Europol with the same tools as the FBI would be a great tool to fight terrorism, but more then that it would be a great organized crime stopper in European territory. We have the means we only lack a federation that gives the tools to agencies and the legitimacy for an European army as well, so a federation is the solution.
The flaw in your reasoning is the assumption that a EU “FBI” will be less corrupt than the “corrupt country’s and policies” you refer to
Any such agency would be made up of personnel from all member states and I’m sure a country like Denmark, which is perceived as the least corrupt country on the planet, will just love agents from Bulgaria (mid table corruption league) roaming their streets arresting their citizens
With the way european nations are spying on each other? And the way Merkel is threatening consequences for states that refuse migrants, we all know who’s going to lead that army and where
No. Closing broders would.
Fascism much?
Retarded much?
End of EEC much?
So you close a border .
Let’s say France to England .
What do you think would happen?
Do you know how much goods goes through that port alone .?
Go on ,give me a clue .?
Closing border = strict controls on everything that goes in and out, which is not absolute closure.
Stuart Higgins so how would the police do it ??
Stephen DeVoy fascism what closing a boarder ??
No. Not being involved in war would stop terrorist attacks. Closing borders is a stupid idea too.
Why is closing boarders stupid then?
Martin Green Open borders help the economy and tourism. Obviously you don’t travel much. Some of us have better things to do with our time than deal with petty officials.
^ R e t a r d
There are some excellent police forces in Europe namely in countries with a lot of terrorism experience that could share their expertise with the others ( Britain and Spain )
Marcos Pachon
I mean… governments already know who most terrorists are, “EU FBI” or otherwise. Yet they still do nothing with the data they have.
No, it will make leaks to ISIS easier, since it is very likely the terrorists have good contacts, and maybe double agents, in the French, Belgian and German police and secret services, at least for the recruiting and shipment of the jihadi “freedom fighters” and their financing and weapons to Syria.
enough what we have..
Artur Mundil – doesn’t this seem like ‘Crossing Lines’??
No , ci sono abastanza ! Devono solo farli farsi il loro mestiere !
It already exists…
Europol is all that is required. They co-ordinate the intelligence and pass on to national police forces who act upon it……intelligence is the only way of preventing terrorist acts, if you are in the situation where the police are running around with guns then usually the terrorist act has already occurred.
….and to think that officers operating in a foreign country are going to provide more effective law enforcement than the indigenous police is totally illogical
What you certainly do not want is bunches of gung-ho police officers storming around Europe thinking they are above the national laws
nope what will happen will hapen anyway /// there will always be way for these bad people … to hurt the good people ! funny how people use security to control us …. and with this article they try to make us scared by saying we need a European FBI …. yet pffffffff anyway stop scamming and brainwashing people thank you !
Filip Kołcz ????
Oh sure let’s increase the number of “intelligence” agencies: more corruption, secrecy and invented wars.
The only way to stop criminal travel movement is a radical overhaul of the sentencing .
Any person who commits a crime which carries a prison sentence of more than 3 months should have their passport removed from them for 5 years .
A second offence 10 years .
A third offence the passport of freedom of movement outside their own country should be a ban for life .
It may sound harsh to the liberals but terrorism is not the worst crime in fact there are more serious crimes committed by individuals who are not involved in terrorism .
To start this process off .
If a person commits a crime which carries a sentence of over 3 months in his/her home country an immediate ban should be imposed on their travelling in the Eu ,this would be by seizing the passport and the ban would last for 12 months .
That first home country sentence would in fact be the final warning of things to come if they pursue this course of actions .
If a person is found to be drunk and unruly on an aircraft and the aircraft is forced to land in a country other than its destination ,a passport ban should be imposed immediately for 5 years.
It’s ok gathering information ,it’s the ability of the local CID to deseminate that information and arrest terrorists or criminals .
In conclusion ,I believe you have to end the freedom of movement of the criminal feral classes .
If someone suspected of being part in anyway that involve terrorism their passport as to be surrendered until they can prove otherwise.
Europol
Ça finira comme dans les pays anglo-saxons, où «l’Intelligence» est infiniment plus appréciée comme Service que comme qualité !
oh please..no thanks
No , this is another arm to overall suppression of people and enslavement.
What is Interpol and Europol doing? Only professional infiltration can prevent terror acts
Better than the european states services…
Only if I’m the head of that so called new FBI !!!!
we need firstly a federal Europe, a states Europe and then a European police force, a European army, a European defense agency
The problem is the European liberals aren’t really interested in fighting terrorists…look at France and Germany
Why not? Terrorism does not concern a State rather than another and has no boundaries. Only with the commitment of the international community we can give an effective response that saves any person and wherever it is
I would think that sort of joined forces focused on fighting terror would make our life more safe
Unworkable, Europe can’t agree on anything so It’s dead in the water!,
Also to stop terror attacks simply stop Muslim migration & immigration into Europe !!.
And also an European Witchhunt, we have better experience in that than te americans, and with Germany leading the hunt it would be epic, like in the XVI. An European Hoover would be nice too.
An “European FBI” wouldn’t be possible in the EU with its current regulations. We already rely on Interpol and Europol’s cooperation to exchange information but the issue lies on the national police forces that do not want to give up power to each other as EU is a group of countries not like the US.
has there ever been a terror attack that the cia or fbi weren.t directly responsible for? or didi i miss something
would it not be cheaper to just stop bombing people in iraq and afgan
What, you mean like an international police force?
They could call it Interpol for short…
the best way to stop terrorist is to infiltrate special peoples in to the network’s…..
Du-te la munca bă !!!!!
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United Nation of Earth Residents !
Send in the Republicans!,… That will Sort Tyranny Out.!”..
if they could decide on a common language and who was in charge!!
if they could decide on a common language and who was in charge!!
if they could decide on a common language and who was in charge!!
Stop producing and commercially selling weapons, start or support wars and false territorial/resources claims might help a bit better…
NO! Neither do we live in a US Bonnie & Clyde age.
The red line must stay! Any breach can be interpreted as a convenient political step by Brussels towards a federal EU (“USE”)- to copy the USA- a totally different historical entity.
Europol is fine, its partnerships are fine, just enhance its efficiency (THEY- not its politicians- would know how to) to achieve a higher standard all round.
Example: it already operates a “European Counter Terrorism Centre (ECTC”)- use it- enhance it!
https://www.europol.europa.eu/partners-agreements/member-states/germany
We already have Interpol/Europol. Debate over.
Interpol, like Europol, does not have any operative or coercitive force. They’re just another institution to cooperate between countries, share information and support national law enforcement agencies.
No…@@
Like Mr. Wainwright says, a ‘European FBI’ does not make sense while Europe keeps being a union of states.
The States members have faced the evolution of a ‘common’ type of crimen such as terrorism, and I say ‘common’ because some European countries like Spain unfortunately really know how to deal with it. At this point and taking into consideration that terrorism has evolved in a global scenario; information sharing is CRUCIAL. And to do so we have to form and educate national law enforcement agencies.
I am from Spain and currently running to become a member of the national police. We, in Spain, have 2 national police agencies and currently 3 regional police agencies, besides the local police. And officers from the different police agencies are reluctant to share information with each other. So image that at an european level.
We first have to form and teach our national police agencies that infomation sharing is essential and take full advantage of the strength each national police agency has.
Like Mr. Wainwright says in the last video, a ‘European FBI’ does not make sense while Europe keeps being a union of states.
The States members have faced the evolution of a ‘common’ type of crimen such as terrorism, and I say ‘common’ because some European countries like Spain unfortunately really know how to deal with it. At this point and taking into consideration that terrorism has evolved in a global scenario; information sharing is CRUCIAL. And to do so we have to form and educate national law enforcement agencies.
I am from Spain and currently running to become a member of the national police. We, in Spain, have 2 national police agencies and currently 3 regional police agencies, besides the local police. And officers from the different police agencies are reluctant to share information with each other. So image that at an european level.
We first have to form and teach our national police agencies that infomation sharing is essential and take full advantage of the strength each national police agency has.
Dear god no. The federal bureau is such a corrupt and wholeheartedly lacking in any sort of transparency shithole that has not solved a single problem ever. It is rather used by the rich elite for their own purposes. I bet Mulder hasn’t seen half the shit they have man, flying saucers are just the tip
Getting rid of mussies should do it.
Would they go after Mossad and corrupt puppeticians…?
Please make distinction between Europe and EU.
An EU-FBI would make it worse, and they would put critics in jail.
We need an European Army, against EU.
Interesting take on the old “the EU is not Europe” chestnut. Who would staff this Non-EU European army ? Norwegians and Swiss ?
Guy Willetts Europeans under European tax payer control. Not under EU bureaucrat control.
“Put critics in jail…”
That said by a Donald Trump supporter sounds funny. The same guy fires people who investigate on him.
Not to mention the fact that he already changed his opinion on Islam.
If Europe were to be led by your kind, it would get raped overnight by the rest of the World (aliens included).
I think that all us agencies create terrorim to justify their existance…. europe (germany) want army to control europe!!!!!
No but getting rid of the Zionist Israeli arse licking governments we have to put up with would help for a start. Then destroy Israel and Saudi Arabia.
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Did the American one prevent them?
No. An american FBI doesn’t prevent terror attacks. Too much centralization of power in Brussels. No thanks.
The march of technology has gradually made the EU and all attempts at centralizing things like police forces superfluous.
No amount of intelligence is any good when you invite the enemy in by the million.
Yup. It will. Will be the most powerful intelligence agency in the world. And everybody think is a stupid idea. Wtf people?
But it’s not an intelligence agency that is being proposed here, that already exists as Europol
The topic of this thread is the formation of a police force which can physically enter any EU country to enforce it’s version of the law (and god knows which version of European law they will be enforcing, after all there are some real basket cases out there)
THE ONLY TERRORISTS ARE THE GOVERNMENTS OSMOSIS EFFECT OF FEAR IS THE EASIEST FORM OF CONTROL OF THE MASSES
ok, go back to the chemtrails now
Giovanni Bicego Chemtrails or not, he’s right anyways. In the end everything is from “governments”
At best, it would only prevent symptoms, not root causes. As such it would be a measure that leads to more repression, more radicalisaton and a bigger loss of privacy and human rights. I’m all for sharing intelligence of known terrorists. Burlt investing in more security doesn’t stop terrorism.
it is usless European FBI as it is in USA as the governaments are the terrorist
NO!!!
Of very course.
no…considering the intelligence agencies always seem implicated in any ‘terrorist’ atrocity…or had foreknowledge at least…
Stopping all the muslim migrants posing as refugees would be a good starting point.
in two words ….. simply no!
Does it work in the USA ? , in Europe we have Interpol , countless known and unknown security agencies , armies private and public , and police forces all ” sharing ” information .
You know as well as I do that they actually share almost nothing relevant to really prevent any kind of extremist attack. Every state likes to have its “secrets” and information is the most expensive commodity nowadays.
No. Stopping immigration from Islamic countries and stopping rogue intel agencies from carrying out false flags mighty work though…….
You mean stop the wars to kil them innocent people in middle east stop
The best way to stop terrorism in Europe is to bomb every muslim country on this planet, and then invite survivors of those bombings here. They will love us dearly eternally.
Jesus what a stupid question
assholes, false flag is not terror attack? there is just that…the true terrorist wear a 5.000 euros or dolares suit in high positions of finance and bussiness…UE, USA corporations,big BANKS and governments…
So a muslim yelling Allahu Akbar while driving a truck into a market isnt a terror attack?? Funny world you live in mate
We have EUROPOL and INTERPOL.
Yes.
Doubt it. The only way is proper boarder control, and vetting but it is too late for that and not PC.
Door, stable, horse, bolt etc..
lol… “proper” border control does jack shit.
No, but stopping the islamic invasion would help some though.
I think that is a must, like a legal, financial an political integration.
Terrorism can only be fought if you recognise what it’s root cause is. Yet everyone is too politically correct to even dare to pin point it.
are they politically correct or are you assumptions about the cause wrong??
are they politically correct or are you assumptions about the cause wrong?🤔
Luke Freeman You seem to imply that that if the cause is either politically correct or wrong. Politically correct does not imply right. I have many assumptions about terrorism and have played with the idea of lots of solutions. Btw, I do recognised that most terrorism has not been done by refugees but by people living in said country legally.
But gentle, you know how sensitive these terrorist are!
Poor darlings….
But gentle, you know how sensitive these terrorist are!
But gentle, you know how sensitive these terrorist are!
u people are delusional if u think these armed goons will protect you from anything. it will be a great threat to all european people if we let people run in the streets looking like these mf on the picture. dear europe, maybe, just maybe stop fucking bombing those countries where your supposed terrorists come from. you really are a bunch of assholes
I don’t suppose because they same people make that? k
Wouldn’t do any harm, would it?
That depends, the attitudes and methods used by police forces throughout the EU varies as much as the languages….. there are police from certain EU countries I wouldn’t like to see given the power to enforce the law in the UK
I think Yes…of course..
No! But shutting the borders to terrorist and deporting what you have plus any imported criminals will.
No.
No way – “more Europe” is NOT the answer to most problems in the world. Get real.
It is.
The only way to help prevent terror attacks is to close the borders to all those who are likely to use entry to bomb us. And politicians knew this before they forced us into accepting an open door policy, didn’t they? So all politicians are to blame for creating the horror we live in by allowing us to be taken for tw=ts. Time for these politicians to admit they are unfit for purpose and give over power to a suitable group of candidates who will protect us as best they can by being unafraid and honest about what is taking place.
Second, remove all those presently residing in Europe who have come from countries that are alien to ours and also are part of groups that are likely to carry out bombings against us. That way we will address the issue of war being waged against us that all of you want to pretend is not happening.
Take WWII, when war began with Germany, did the allies encourage and ask Germans to come freely into our national homelands to enable them to attack and murder us in our own homes, or, did they either send them home or put them into holding camps in order to make it impossible for them to continue with the mission they had?
Those in charge of our governments today are totally irresponsible and not fit for purpose. They must do the right thing and hand in their resignations as they have promoted the killing of our people by encouraging and welcoming enemy invaders to control us from inside our borders.
Don’t believe it? Well, just look at how year after year our governments cover up the crimes of dangerous immigrants, because they don’t want the general public to be aware they are doing these things en masse whilst they take no action to defend us. And why do they do that? Because they know they are not fit to be in the position of running our countries. That’s why.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/23779-polish-mp-germans-trying-feverishly-to-cover-up-muslim-crime
Fighting fascist organisations that pretend to be Islamic state is the way, not importing American TV show police
Strenghten Europol first.
A European FBI would at least help cross border movement of terrorists, but could also help stopping the spreading of anti-western ideas by hate preachers. The problem is that EU countries are far too much in love with their own systems and under populist pressure to take a strong step towards a EUBI. The same goes for a EU army. “When wil, they ever learn?”
No , stopping them coming in will
Ofcourse NOT!
As long as the EU politicians don`t adjust Schengen, the crimigrants are free to go wherever they please. Even using up to a dozen aka`s.
end nato , end dictature of bruxells.
If we had a EU Defense Force creating a FORTRESS EUROPE , there would be no Turkish State sponsored flood of illegal immigrants into the European Union , undermining the institutions of the European Union – namely Schengen., while a EU Defense Force would also end the British State Sponsored Turkish Military invasion and occupation of EU member Cyprus since 1974 which is a British – Turkish alliance against the Americans in Cyprus so as to prevent the establishment of American military bases in Cyprus with the expulsion of British Military forces since 1950 .
EU leadership is to be partly blamed for these attacks. Reckless politics enabled and helped terror. EU leadership should be charged as acomplices to terror
aaahahahahaha!
You’re absolutely right brother
Logic….
I doubt. They would just keep watching people until they do something, as the police forces do now. Almost all the terrorists had been known to the police as criminals or extremists.
Terror attacks are among the least of the EU’s problems.
It sounds like a tried and true method of coercing the people into accepting more government and more government oppression: whip up the hysteria about “terrorism” and “our children”.
Gestapo 2.0
So many tinfoil hatters following this page…
A European will to keep out terrorists would help prevent terrorist attacks.
Yep!
Bullshit. The only way to prevent terrorism is dont be a part of it.
no.
it would only give the autocrat govt in Brussels more power to retain their power
YES …It would help ..won’t be the end, but all help is welcome !
Step 1: Invite shitload of extremists
Step 2: Wait for shatload of terrorist attacks to scare people
Step 3: Offer them salvation by creating new berocratic institutin
Step 4: Demand every country member to fund this…
And we could call it Interpol…
Yes..
there is already euro pol and interpol…
Or maybe dont import terrorists?
You can not prevent terror attaks ! You can prevent them by changing your politics !!! Why we did not have them before !!
Maybe if you stop importing terrorists, terrorism will be reduced. Just maybe.
Together with a set of common rules and the ability to quickly exchange information, yes.
I think, that Europol should have the rights of FBI. I think, that to create another agency will be mistake, because it will average the bureaucracy and it will be difficult for common manegement. Europe needs of one agency, wich will be responceble for the security.
Lol nope
Stop being Israel’s friend because of USA would much be better.
Anyway, the people who don’t use the directions lights when driving in the roundabouts cause more deaths than terrorism. The media should stop talking about terrorists just to make the people hate a certain group of people, moreover being what the terrorist want.
yeah, of course but nobody should undermine the role of national polices
No it would not. Europe is not a country.
for prevent, you need first be informed !!!
They f… daesh will build their f… califate.. our security is a fake….
Yes, it would help also lot against organized crime.
we europeans, need to face the real enemy: the dictature of Bruxells evilness
Why don’t you simply upgrade Europol?
The more oficial agencies the more burocracy and jobs for friends.
Ofcours he should help a society !
NO AMERICANS IN EUROPE TO DO WHAT THEY DID IN NAM SIRIA LIBYA BLACK AFRICA S AMERICA CUBA e piu ne ha….
No USA things in EU
No more Islam would prevent terror attacks.
No more extremism like the one you expressed would prevent terror attacks,
Because caucasian, atheist people, like me, commited the terror attacks in Brussels, London, Madrid, Nice etc. ? Islam is responsible and you know it.
We use to live with open doors. Should become the standard.
FBI have several offices in europe,, mostly in american embassies
NOOOO Oh my god you fools, don’t allow that to happen!!!
There is a civil war waging in the Islamic World between those that wish a theocracy and those that wish some accommodation with modernity. Sometimes this war spills into European streets. I don’t think a European police force will really influence this struggle
no. the european fbi must targeted to criminal politicians
It will be used against the European people mainly.
Fbi trains police internationally at National Academy-The killing school.
The most deadly operations in the world are executed by the barbarians in fbi:
http://la.indymedia.org/js/?v=cont&url=/news/2017/07/295568.json
No no economic migrants would
Yea, of course. Cuz most of the Bulgarians going abroad to Germany and UK are not Economic migrants. You have to be a full retard to think that a government can be aware of the political activism of more than 10 million people, so they can prevent all terrorist attacks. These types of mindsets are only possible for people who live in small places, because they do no realize how in the big megacities (like Paris, London, Berlin) it is practically impossible to monitor all the residents. You don’t even have an idea that most of them exist.
Tis you that has no idea of what little privacy we have and how we are being watched…
Sure… Look how USA FBI prevented…
And purpose of FBI is to… we… Investigate… Not prevent something…
ban the muslim we hindus r tortured by these satan in india , JAI SHRI RAM
We can say at least that this non-existent “European FBI” does not prevent anything at all but the real equivalent could certainly have better odds which means even less deadly casualties.
But ethnic, ideological, political and religious reasons are far too often more important than the safety of Europeans. Simply because politicians’ own safety has the highest priority of all which explains why they cannot understand or can ignore everyday people’s much more harsh reality.
“Terror”….So….precise…….
Every country should take care of its borders and its inhabitants. It should not be that one country accepts illegal immigrants and tries to force another country to take them.
Nobody is forced to stay. Anyone who wants to leave can do so by triggering the article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. As we say in Portugal: A porta da rua é serventia da casa (The front door is useful for the house). Thus any country may take care of its borders and its inhabitants.
Not so simple as that. EU is already forcing its politics on its members. If it continues it might be disolved
Jose Antonio M Macedo There are people who think they have the right to tell others what to do.
Jerzy Zajączkowski But if Poland does not agree, it may leave. The signed treaty between Poland and EU grants to EU some major controls. As I said, if Poland does not agree, it must triggers article 50.
Jerzy Zajączkowski The lack of sovereignty is good for money but not for other aspects. This is called cherry-picking (“UK” is very specialized in that).
Jose Antonio M Macedo Accepting illegal immigrants violates the law.
Jose Antonio M Macedo This is so when the offender orders honest people to subordinate his decisions.
Jose Antonio M Macedo I can not speak on behalf of Poland, but I personally think that Poland should leave the EU rather than accepting Muslim immigrants.
Pure demagogic. It is not easy to leave once you have a big public debt in Euros. Otherwise Germany is not the conquer of Europa, better kick off Germany from the EU.
And who are you to decide Poland must leave? People feel closer to Poland that with Germany. Poland must stay and EU must be more democratic.
José Macedo, that is all very well but when the current government took place in Lisbon, supported by anti-EU and anti-NATO forces, the first thing the President said – at the time Cavaco Silva – was that it would not accept any attempt to leave the EU or NATO. Then, Rebelo de Sousa, the new president, after elected was confronted by tge journalists with the growing eurocepticism among the portuguese. The journalists asked him if he would allow a referendun on the EU snd his answer was “Never”. So, that option is out of our hands as politicians will not allows us to even vote, even though we were promised a vote on EU in 2004/5. Have you voted for the Euro? No, do you know why? Because they knew most portuguese were against leaving Escudo to join the Euro. Our entire presence in the CEE and EU is full of elite decision made without peoples will. You europhiles have a very distorted way of looking at “democracy”.
The FBI is a terrorist organization which manufactures plots, crimes and victims where non existed to make us believe it is relevant or functional. Europe does not need to be like AmeriKKKa, unless, we want to become an empire for destruction and plunder.
Maybe you should analyze the data … http://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2017-08/BG3236.pdf
If they arrest most EU leaders who allowed this terror disaster to happen
You have a point there :)
Sure.
No need for that. Each National Police should manage it, in cooperation with all other European Police organisations.
As long as the USA is not involved
It is of utmost importance
It is of utmost importance
No, it will lead to more terror attacks. Every time the EU is faced with a problem, thebonly solution it can think of is “More Europe”
Explain the mechanism of how it will lead to more terror attacks? You don’t actually provide a reason for your criticism.
They will be completely inept at preventing any terror attacks.
Your reasoning has no facts as a base. You are projecting then drawing conclusions from an emotional viewpoint.
Like looking for a needle in a haystack. But any joint effort is a good thing in general since we have open borders. EU member Cyprus especially needs it as I have read that Turkey uses the Turkish occupied North of the island to allow ISIS and criminals access. We recently had a grenade thrown by a hooded motorcyclist at the British Bases in Dhekelia and the British forces down played it. Could have been ISIS with easy access from the Turkish occupied North.
EU FBI might prevent want happened with the assisin of Berlin, Paris and Nice? Do you believe that? Its a typical reality – aim question? oui?
Of course it would.
Because without an european FBI your city had a lot o terrorist attacks and with an FBI the USA never had one. You’re funny. The EU is the biggest terrorist attack in Portugal since 1974…
José Bessa da Silva, some of us look pass our own bellybuttons. My city is preaty safe, the EU globaly is less so. Regarding the last bit, i understand things might look scary for someone from most rural areas but don’t forget that it’s been the EU paying up for those roads to your backwater spot, or your local healthcenter, or your local water treatment plant, possibly even your electrification and most likely than not, your job.
There’s no reason to get scared, it’s a good thing!
The EU has what? Lad, you confuse a “loan” with a gift. Those roads are DEBT, so I would suggest you to actually inform yoursef on how are those roads being paid for and who is really paying for them. The same for all the rest you claim “altruistic EU” is paying for. You forgot the PPP really fast lad. The only thing that the EU brought this country was debt, austerity, poverty, loss of sovereignty, lies and anti-democratic values.
So no, there is no good reason to be scared, but there are plenty to leave the EU as fast as possible.
“More Europe” is not the answer to any problem. It is only the implementation of the wet dreams of Eurocrats and their corporate masters.
Europe does not have a terrorism problem. It hardly has any problem at all. And most of the problems it does have, have to do with the rickety design of what “Europe” now constitutes, and the vast divide between what Eurocrats are doing and what the people want and need.
Put some effort in healing and downsizing Europe, before you talk of this nonsense, squarely intended to take away even more sovereignty from member states.
As long as it does not become mass spying of the Erupean citizenship, like the NSA does with american citizens, I am fine with it. But it probably would become exactly that.
why, because the American one worked like a charm on 9/11, during the anthrax mail attacks and when Unabomber hit?
Nope
So, what does Europol do?
Methodology support. :/
The European FBI already exists and it only chases money, not terrorists
Does American FBI prevent terrorism? I think not.
So who does? Mickey Mouse?
Isn’t there Europol?
It’s just a methodology support :/
Yes, but I know they are running investgations on their own
If it couldn’t help prevent corruption in Hungary, it would be worthless.
Or Italy
there are too many things to consider here. Like who will have authority over cases. EU “FBI” or local police authorities? how would intelligence be shared over countries? Who would be in command of this agency?
In any case as most people already mentioned the issue is not on forming a new agency that will run things overall, but to change policies that allow entrance of people who have not been thoroughly checked , laws that allow room to move for terrorists and so on and so forth.. in other words, lets first build a solid legal framework and policies to deal with terrorists and then we can look if we are in need of a “heavy agency” to run things Europe-wide
It would just be the EU’s version of the Gestapo for the 21st Century, fortunately the EU is not a federation so it will never have a federal bureau of investigation.
Oh, I hope, so the rat like you would finally have their just reward. Remain in your fuking island retarded Britons.
Federico Rossi Thanks for admitting your EU is no different to Germany 1939, have you picked your uniform out yet ? I bet it’s black.
Federico is the perfect example of the average europhile. Crude, ignorant, anti-democratic and limited.
Federico Rossi Hows does it feel to be yet again ‘owned’ by the Germans :)
I prefer Cile in 1973 than Germany in 39, more economically efficient.
Federico Rossi It’s hard to believe that in the 21st Century there are still fascist lunatics like you around, fortunately the EU will collapse long before you get any real power.
Remind, to every action there is a reaction, if you will be successful in destroying Europe, people like me will soon decuplicate, because the results of your idiopsy will finally hit the people who followed you and their minds will understand how tossic are you.
Your victory will start you fall, and I hope you win.
In the end it’s just matter of time for your fair reward…
Federico, the only reaction will be people understanding how toxic the “european nationalist” have become. Please, carry on the good job of making us want to leave as fast as possible…
I hope you go soon, more rapidly you win, more shrill you will fall.
Federico Rossi If you say so comrade, if you say so lol
“Antes morrer livres, que em paz sujeitos”… A wonderful motto from my country.
Hello Nige.. Nice to see you trolling here..
Serge Lauer (The very definition of an internet troll)
You ignore the story, its content, my post, insult me and then call me a ‘troll’ ? lol whatever you say comrade, whatever you say lol
What is Europol ?
Europol is the beginning of a police state, enjoy.
A “police state” which allows us to fight organized crime everywhere in Europe, a monster for Ivan Burrows the mafia-friendly Briton.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europol
Prevent or provoke attacks? Better to not have a such a dilemma..
Prevent.
So in your logic, the police provokes robbery. Good thinking, potato.
Paulius Paždagis not the local police, the Federal one possibly.
Given the mess Brussels as made of everything it touches if they had their own private ‘EU law’ enforcement force it would lead to a civil uprisings in may countries.
Delirium.
Paulius he’s talking about the fact that federal police usually puts certain harmful events in motion in order to catch “the big one”, which usually never happens…
Maybe, an American FBI.
I think so
Yes, obviously.
What if the peoples of the Nation States in the EU do not want it, will you use your new Gestapo and force them to accept it ?
Exactly, and if you don’t like it, a small helicopter trip would resolve this problem.
Idiots must be eradicated.
Remind me, how did it work out for you fascists the last time you tried to rule all Europe ?
I’m not fascist, I let you the third way and the unusefull extermination of non-pactile minorities. I prefer military and liberist regime, order, economic progress, eradication of both communist and fascists idiots.
Good God! This italian is really “mafioso”…
Hahaha you really don’t know what mafia is if you give me this title.
But good for us, because if you know that, you will find pretty much similarities with your anti-historically ridiculous nationalistic view, and soon became part of it…
No, I don’t because my country does not have mafia, but one thing is true, I do not want to live in the same country as you, for several reasons. I hope my country leaves the EU quickly, like our allies in the UK did, because people like you give me the creeps…
Mafia born from the mixed history of Islamic domination and Iberian rule of the southern Italy, in a time in which Spanish and Portugal are unite, one of the 3 legendary founders (demons named osso, malosso and calcagnosso) came from Portugal. It’s also yours fault.
Your problem not mine. I’m definatly not wiling to make that mistake and let an italian like you bring mafia to my peaceful nation. PS: Portugal and Spain (that did not exist yet), were never united, we simply shared a king, like Canada and Australia today. Also, southern Italy was under the Aragonese Crown, not the Portuguese Crown.
You hope to maintain a peaceful nation, closing your frontier and living in autarchy, can let you alone with the beast, because they are just there, is a disease and your countrymen are not immune, especially people like you that justify everything in the vision of an anti-historical destructive dream.
Anti-historical? Anti-historical is your “federalized” dream. Not to mention Osso, Mastrosso and Carcagnosso WERE NOT from Portugal. You would do well to read some proper history books if you want to comment on it’s base.
Ok, no other words are required, I know pretty well history, I know you will win soon and where this victory will bring, obviously I know that the day will come when you will receive a fair reward too.
Let us hope to receive a fair reward indeed. Everyone forced to live under the EU dictat really deserves to be rewarded for such agony…
Hahaha, I will remind to you this quote, if the EU collapse ad the consequence hit you.
Corruption under the name of lobbying, anti-democratic values, crisis, austerity, poverty, loss of sovereignty…that is what the EU brought to my country. To become worse than that is simply impossible.
HAHAHAHAHA you are so funny, please never change
I won’t my neo-nazi lunatic. No need, I’m right and you know it. Now, go take care of your 200 000 refugees…how’s EU, going for you? Hahahaha
No, it would help to waste more money. Europe is not a country.
Already has but with no federal jurisdiction it’s called Europol
E.U . does not work properly.You can check that at https://dre.pt You don’t need to know the Portuguese language.See the words Directiva,decreto-lei or lei.There are examples of delay on the transposition of Directives : days 10 and 28 of July 2017.
Europol needs to be given juristiction in all EU states to investigate serious crimes.
Why does it ?
To arrest the mafia-friends like you, Ivan Burrows.
First they need an European Federation………. anyway thay can also rely on NATO structures for that.
There will never be a European Federation.
https://visegradpost.com/en/2017/07/12/poles-would-rather-leave-the-eu-than-take-in-mulsim-immigrants/
Probably. Personally I think is better an European Commonwealth with UK too and widely open to US trade too.
Domenico Galardo A Commonwealth of European Nations could actually work, there is no need for centralised control over every aspect of live, Nation States working together when it suits them instead of dictates from an unelected European Politburo in Brussels.
Unelected, you make me laugh…
European federation.. that would be a crime. And let me guess the capital would be Brussels 😂
Why don´t upgrade Europol? UE is not a Federation like USA, Germany or Russia for instance. A Federal Police is for federated countries.
Europe need to be federal…
Not with my country it does not.
Yes! we need common intelligence and common security forces. This seems obvious. it optimizes resources and gives us critical dimension and a must stronger arm at the international stage. What should be debatable, and apparently people are not very concerned with, is how would these forces be scrutinized and how would they be controlled. Do they answer to the parliament , the commission, the council? Should we have direct elections for the president of the commission? Should we have a “US” system of votes to protect smaller states from being engulfed by the larger ones? Or something different all together? The EU is a democratic institution but it is not perceived as such by a big part of the electorate. This is what should be first addressed. Then, people would be more willing to have a common security and defense policy.
Your concept of “democratic” seems rather odd. Count me out of it…
Reading some of the comments here… I’m starting to be afraid of the so called, newborn, “European nationals”.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
I’ve got a much better idea
DON’T LET THE TERRORISTS IN.
No, we don’t need no federal shit, we’ll end up like the US, a police state. We just need to make Europol working better and really connect all our resources.
Less inequality will prevent terrorism… its not islam its exclusion and poverty… islam is just a catalyst
Work for UNITED STATES OF EUROPE..
Maybe…
If they will have headquarter in Italy,Spain or Germany
Sorry. I will never pai to have a repressive force in enemy countries like Spain, Itaky or Germany…
bruxells is the problem of europe.
we need to stop the problem of bruxells dictature, canot fixt something that does not work.
I don’t agree with you. Definitely Bruxell is not the problem of Europe, but the local politicians are, whom´s aim is a political career, not necessarily the wealth of nation.
Brussels is indeed the problem of Europe, as well as its legalized corruption, anti-democratic values, lack of historical reasoning and/or the lack of respect for individual cultures.
“sari” people like you are not welcome in europe.
sr jose é verdade. eu pequei por ter acreditado um dia nos anos 90 que uniao europeia ia zela pelos europeus, eu tb as vezes caio nas mentiras dos outros, meia-culpa por ter acreditado nos mentirosos que tinham como planos substituir o povo europeu por hordas de selvagens que odeiam se a eles proprios e os europeus. ditadura de bruxelas tem de cair para cuidarmos de nosso bem mais precioso: o nosso povo.
Of course. What else?
When nationalistic still reigns then you get the wrong answer. Once again. Yes and Yes. Make The E. U. Stronger and no weaker.
and why the fuck do we need to copy american stuff…
Europe and the EU can do everything, twice as better with half the money
There it is. More cultural Marxism.
No it wouldn’t! :S There are other ways to identify who is a terrorist and who is not… but the governments do NOT want to capture every terrorist. Most of the times are useful to be free for many reasons. It’s easier to manipulate a “scared cattle”. ;)
Is much easier to deport all recent muslims imigrants and close the EU borders from them than “create” specialized structures. Less birocracy, best eficiency and more money from europeeans citizens!
The EU does not have borders, each member has. So let us start by closing the borders to romanians which are a far worse problem to my country’s job market…
José Bessa da Silva wrong. EU have exterior borders and despite Romania comply all the technical standards, Romania doesn’t have access to Schengen. Wow, you just confirm me that romanian are highly qualified? Yes, we are (live with that)!!! And by the way, we don’t are terrorist or islamist, but when a muslims bomber gonna blow up on Lisboa (sooner or later, just a matter of time) we talk about then! Until then, peace and long live!
The EU does not have “external borders”. The EU is not a country to have any borders to start with. The EU is a mere international institution devoted to spread corruption. It shouldn’t even exist.
No, I comfirm romanians get jobs they should not, not that you are qualified (you are obviously not, that is why you take low skilled jobs).
Bombers in Lisbon? We have worse problems with romanian criminals and beggars.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/romanians-arrested-for-spate-of-robberies/35008
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/romanian-arrested-for-credit-card-fraud/20833
http://www.algarvedailynews.com/news/10966-nearly-9-in-every-10-portuguese-holidayed-in-portugal-this-year
Indeed ISIS terrorists would terrorise us a lot less.
José Bessa da Silva 14.8 MILLION https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/13/cristiano-ronaldo-accused-tax-spain
“Mourinho allegedly committed tax fraud in 2011 and 2012, according to Madrid’s provincial state prosecutor’s office” http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/06/20/cristiano-ronaldo-jose-mourinho-caught-up-in-spain-tax-scandal.html
And those are gypsies, not romanians!!!
Mourinho and Cristiano? Really? You’re speaking about people that don’t even know how much they EARN and leave the burden of taking care of their fortunes to others? Not to mention nothing was proven yet. You want to compare that with theft and murder? Be my guest, send them back to Portugal and we will send your thieves and murderes back. Hell, send all portuguese criminal around the world back to Portugal and we would still be safer than with romanians inside our nation.
You’re a joke…hahaha…You are right, we should close the borders…to you lot…
Oh right, so every criminal is gypcy? Using the same logic every (Roma)nian is a gypcy. A romanian trying to be racist is like a goat trying to be a wolf…lol
How could it be that the simple answer would not be among the first five? Ius omnes equus est. Forget that and trouble is heading your way.
Only if “Europe FBI” would be more correct and have respect for people!
Doru, it’s another way to create more bureaucracy. Interpol works fine!
Daniel Meternă I think you are right. FBI made so many errors, works like KGB.
It is about time. Organised crime cooperates much better than police forces. What I dont appreciate is the focus on “prevention”, which is euphemistic for control and limitations in personal rights. Protection from crime and terror does not make any sense when the state takes away the rights which it first granted to its citizens.
It would probably cause them….
First we need to clear up the legislation. We’ve got countries babysitting known extremists instead of putting them where they belong. Hate preachers are still tolerated. Stop all that irrational nonsense first.
Probably not. But it makes sense to have one for lots of other reasons. Make the EU socially equal while you are at this ‘joint’ stuff. Same benefits, same minimum wage, same basic pension, same processes, GMI etc
the more dangerous terrorista we have they are corrupted politicians at impunity and there are a lot in EU states, and justice do nothing about condenate them
Sure, especially when you all get labeled as domestic terrorists or gang members and are then investigated for having a tattoo or wearing a particular shirt.
A European FBI is a good idea but it requires a all professional EU Defense Force to make the European Union a Fortress European Union so as to defend the European Union from external threats like the current Turkish State Sponsored flood of illegal immigrants into the European Union designed by the Turkish authorities led by Sultan Erdogan , to undermine the institutions of the European Union beginning with the European Union institution of Schengen. . A European FBI is like being the firefighter after the forest fire has become uncontrollable. So key the Key is to guard the external border of the European Union , with a million personnel all professional EU Defense Force which would also contribute to ending the British – Turkish alliance against the Americans and the Europeans in Cyprus since 1950 against the Americans and the Europeans , which was enhanced and deepened via the British State sponsored Turkish Military invasion and occupation of Cyprus since 1974, which provides the British Military bases in Cyprus a security advantage against American efforts since 1950 in trying to expel the British Military from Cyprus son as to be replaced with establishment of American military bases in Cyprus.
Europol? Interpol?
Lack of terrorists will
European FBI is a must. Without any delay.
Europol? Interpol?
Ending the wars would help for sure much more!!!!!
That would be ideal, but Who shall/could do that?
On the other hand, haven’t we been praying enough for violence in the world to end? :)
Yes,its much easeaer to recrute more police officers, soldiers……for another FBI!
And: praying wont help. WE have to act!
Wars do need intervention. But the first thing that comes to my mind is what has happened so far. The Land of the Braves and the rest of Western powers did that in two world wars, in Japan, Cores, Vietnam,.. Kosovo, and they almost always succeeded. But since a decade everything western countries can do in that direction gets demonized:
1). If the west does intervene, then they are being portrayed as the GREEDY IMPERIALIST who are just trying to expand their influence.
2). When they do not intervene, they are portrayed as the CYNICAL CAPITALISTS who care only about themselves and their profits, and let people in the world die. Somehow being a western state is politically incorrect now.
Then there are conflicts which simply can’t end with helping one of the sides win – the violence would likely continue even after the war and the only difference with the war would be that the winner now would have the upper hand. Take Syria: whoever win from the 3-4 parties fightin each other is going to be brutal against its enemy parties and against those parts of the population which were supporters of them.
I think thats not correct. Every war is for one and ONLY reason: money. Nobofy didnt ask the western world for help. THEY found reasons to impact. Remember Irak. Remember 9/11 and so on…..
What do you mean with nobody – in which wars? Because in most wars the help was more than welcome from at least one side of the fighting groups – And if you say so, then why did you say the west has to intervene to stop wars? How should we “act” according to you?
PS, you think money is more motivating in people killing innocents than hate is?
And why shall I remember the invasion of Irak and 9/11?
I know many poor people who do not kill.
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Start with criminalization of hate speech made in Europe against Europeans, and consider to include there even the relativizing of terroristic violence against Europeans, from the classical, harmles-seeming ones goin like “Don’t be so alarmed for some dozens of dead. In Syria die much more people.”, followed usually by some creepy conspiracy theory which ” makes every single European person responsible for the victims of wars in the world”. Do not forget, the devil is in the details.
Generally a state needs a solid office of inverlstigaions and the more EU will be solid and will resemble to a state, the more it need will need a united department of investigations.
Yes, but the main thing that would have 60% influence would be restrictions to E.U. borders, stop importing terrorists. Our european values are not compatible to Many people that are entering in E.U.
Isn’t interpol exactly that?
Interpol is doing that job, without the militarization of the police. I am not a friend of police with weapons like soldiers.
Is this even a question? Of course, and with a grren light for killing terrorists.
FBI is a Stazi.
A European database and pressure to establish a worldwide database of convicts . Ex criminals should have a passport that would not allow them to travel freely in the EU .
Agree and that will end the double nationally with Israel or US and exclude all Israelis/Turkish from travelling to Europe since they do not respect or recognize, the international law.
We better had one Army and Closed European borders. This would help all countries to have much less Defense budget and would share Security Load equally to all. Today the north western and central countries are hiding behind Greece and Italy.
Germany is trying to make an army,a police force,an FBI,a bank from EU members states,using this power for herself (Germany is the leader and commander of EU)so it can use them to protect it s interests….there is far long distance from other more important issues to be made in EU..but if this goes on fast that will mean that is important for Germany
LOL the EU itself is SUPPORTING terror groups in Syria :)
Its a slippery slope, funding ‘intelligence’ and gradually militirising Europe, while the ‘war on terror’ is already showing us it achieved nothing but creating more terror. Instead we should spend money on the causes of terrorism and migration, which more often than not are due to inequalities, lack of opportunities, and more recently, climate change.
There is EuroPol and it works good in most countries
I think this is part of a bigger question about the identity of the EU. Federalists would say it is essential for unified systems to come into play, to look at the big picture – that in 30 years if Europe does not unite and operate like a bloc, it will disappear into squabbling city states and get steamrolled by the bigger economic players. This seems logical to me. Also, given the volatility of global geopolitics, we can’t necessarily rely on others, so need a military, a defense force that does not get roped into whatever misguided campaign other parties are gung ho about.. It makes sense for other federal agencies too, for efficiency and cost reduction, to have a central template and structure. Complicated though…. like what language is used etc, training programs, locations etc. This needs to reduce red tape, not increase it. I think if the EU wants to remain an entity, a shift to universal agencies is inevitable.
Europol needs to have its remit extended and supported.
Of course.
I doubt…. the muslim trojan horse infiltrated many terrorists/migrants and perhaps they are infiltrated now in armed forces.
The politicians like Merkel allowed all this… this are predators that destroy all resources and beauty of the planet, not people
Poland prevented terror attacks. They have none. We all know why. Leaders of EU and Merkel should be put in jail for aiding terror
Centralising power, why is it that they always propose this?
Becuse EU id made for destroying nations identities!
Rémi Martin LOL no one’s stomach was full because of an identity. This kind of nationalism should rot in the ground.
JD Blaha Humans are made not only with stomachs about with minds and feelings as well ;) Isn’t each of them equally important for our well-being?
Barbara Szela Lesniak my feeling is for humanity, not in dividing it into self-serving illusions and delusions.
Again this question? No, it would not. Also Europe merely a geographic location and the EU is not a country.
I can’t believe the anti EU and anti Germany nonsesne propaganda in certain comments in here is made so barefaced and the posters are so easily getting away with it! Leaving for a momant apart your assumptions that immigration from any Muslim countries brings terrorism (still I.can’t help bringing an example: Germany has many Turkish immigrants and none of them has taken part in terrorist attacks) , the only thing the EU brought in large numbers in western Europe an countries different from Germany, are Christian eastern Europeans, and the UK SHUTS THE DOORS to them with Brexit, for example – so much for the Christian-loving western Europe.The anti German nonsense – which survives also because Germans are rather week in reacting to these category of low punches – all this should have stopped long ago by bringing in simple facts from general knowledge. There has been since many decades immigration organized from each western European state independently from the EU, and the undisputably largest number of immigrants in Europe have come this way; and not because of any German politician. On the contrary, it was the two Germanies which were politically dependent from other states till their unification. Did immigration in France from the 60s happen because of Germany or because of the EU?
Besides, Last time I checked, it was Germany who had given money to other EU states… And not the other way around.
Yes definetly though id love people to stop calling ” european fbi” cause that word makes me cringe, i guess it sums it up, if we go by that definition we also need a EU CIA and a EU pentagon
Oh, such a funny idea. Especially, when the milk has already been spilt. Debating Europe, how old are you? You usually sound like a teenager…
They want out opinion to direct their new mind control.
Well Obviously! The Paris and Brussels attacks were committed by a transnational network of returning ISIS veterans who bought illegally-smuggled serbian guns in belgium, and about whom, turkish intelligence gave direct warning (which the belgian doughnut-patrol ignored).
The 2014 Brussels Jewish Museum shooting was done by a French ISIS veteran who got away (because the Belgian doughnut patrol just arrested the first arab they could find, instead of the actual shooter). Meanwhile the French had an entire dossier on the guy, and knew in advance what he was up to, but could do nothing because they didn’t have jurisdiction!
With that sort of localized incompetence, some member nations stand no chance whatsoever!
stop the weapons, the, and US intervention for regime change for their greedy elite.
I highly doubt it. Furthermore it would centralize too much power in one central organisation and I don’t think that’s a good a idea, specially if you want to preserve individualism. What we need is more and better collaboration between the members and surrounding countries.
As long as this collaboration isn’t properly instutionalised in, say, a European FBI, it will never work very efficiently or effectively.
Yes help but the most importance is a good intelegence service
Of course it would. And it would stop criminals scraping justice. We need a federal police.
YESSSSS
The EU mandarins use European navies to run a collection service of illegal migrants. These service men and women are supposed to protect their countries. With this warped logic the EU would use central police, army and intelligence to subvert European interests rather the protect them. Well the track record so far indicates that.
Don’t we already have Interpol and MI15,MI-16?
Probably not ; terrorists become more and more unpredictable ;
Migrants issue, from Africa and Middle East, is to be blamed. There is no possible control for who is or it is not a terrorists among them
Only if they concentrate on the fight against illegal migration and terrorism but not on false flag operations…
dictature of bruxels is part of the problem, not part of solution.
EU will never move up as long as some still copying american shit…
Europeans can do everything twice as better if thinking by themselfs
well, it’s called Europol and it hasn’t prevented that many terror attacks lately
A military wing of the unelected European Commission ? I wonder what they will be named. ‘ Sturmabteilung’ or ‘Schutzstaffel’ or ‘Народный Комиссариат Внутренних Дел’ ?
Still here? Thought that the UK was dealing with it’s own problems regarding integrity!
U wanted BREXIT, u have BREXIT, now don’t try to meddle in issues that no longer concern You.
Paulo Especial We are leaving your pointless EU comrade, we are not leaving ‘Europe’., now re-read the title of the page lol. But thank you for showing your hatred of free speech, no doubt you would go for the ‘NKVD’ option.
Sensible policies would be a lot cheaper and more effective.
Having a way to track criminal activity across EU borders is extremely sensible. Brussels was hit by ISIS twice, using firearms obtained from the Balkans, and jihadists based in France. Is there any concrete reason that Belgium should not coordinate its law enforcement with both Croatia and France?
We already have Europol.
Foreign criminals are only expelled from the countries where they had committed their crime and non-EU citizen criminals are not expelled from the entire EU.
Criminals and terrorists are closely connected, most of the recent non-EU terrorists had a history of crime, yet they were not kicked out of the entire EU. I think that’s the stupidest policy we now have.
Elsewhere hate preaching was long tolerated, you can see the result in the increased number of radiacals.
There’s also Interpol in France…see? Turf wars
CTC and FATF should be enough. Although, the establishment of corporations near the oil zone and the exploitation of mineral wealth of the Arabic World , leads to a radical offensive external policy by theocratic states, in order to regain power over the mineral wealth. EU nullifies the results of its own counter-terrorist strategy .
With EU pro-terror politics it is impossible. Put Poland in charge of EU, they dont have terror attacks
Neither does Portugal or Italy or Ireland and you don’t see them going far right extremist.
Poland is not far right or extremist. They are reasonable and take care of their people as every country should. No terror attacks unlike all others. Poland is positive example. Extremists are allowing terror to happen
It is not just terror, it is also violence and rapes
Brussels was hit by ISIS twice, using firearms obtained from the Balkans, and jihadists based in France. While your claims that ISIS is somehow pro-EU are….interesting and creative, Is there any concrete reason that Belgium should not coordinate its law enforcement with both France all Balkan countries? Especially when law enforcement in the Balkans is generally too under-funded and corrupt to actually do its job properly?
This is not my claim. Politics of EU is helping terrorism and endangering its people. EU leaders are pro-terrorism. Their actions and consequences are obvious. Poland is only one responcible
if you really want to prevent the terror attacks, then DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS NOW
European database for criminals . Special passport for criminals
No. We have Europol already
A lack of religion will
Having a way to track criminal activity across EU borders is extremely sensible. Brussels was hit by ISIS twice, using firearms obtained from the Balkans, and jihadists based in France. Is there any concrete reason that Belgium should not coordinate its law enforcement with both France and the Balkan countries?
In general, western europe’s firearms come from the balkans, whereas eastern europe’s drugs come from the west. Neither terrorism nor organized crime stop at the borders of any member state. So why should the law?
Would Europe grow some balls?
Affected Administrations have to work closer together
No at all! I can’t believe it. But I’m sure it should be a good way to collect intelligence and represent another way to control the people. I’m afraid of the political control and influence of this kind of institution!!!
Of course..
The islamist terrorism is beyond the possibility to be controlled by democratic institutions, just because is about of a cult, a belief and acting in name of an ideology. The European FBI can’t and don’t want to ban the islam!
A European FBI is of no use if we do not have a Fortress Europe in the form of a all professional EU Defense Force. A European Union FBI without a EU Defense Force , would be like fire firefighter brigade running in a thousand directions trying to put the fires out when border protection is not up to the European standards that it should be .
Of course an European FBI, could be very useful and practical in dealing international crimes especially in Europe. It should be very effective against organized crimes, smuggling, illegal migration. But the idiological terrorism and narco-tetorism is something different and need a global comprehension and development of efficient way to fight against it and to deal it in proper way.
Admitting in Europe the so called refugees, without a proper possibility to know their real background, without a criminal record and even a proper personal identification is not just a high risk, but also a foolish decision to open the gate for terrorism and crimes. Unfortunately the last yeas events proved that, and even the BREXIT is made by the reaction of British people to stop migration and reduce the terrorist risk.
And first of all, in Europe we should have the same legal system, with same laws, same criminal and civil law, same procedures, and of course same penalties.
What is the first principle of the European union??? Freedom of movement of goods and persons.
Despite this first principle, is a shame not having a single European Traffic Cod and a unique Traffic Cod procedures and penalties.
I doubt.
There is Euro-Pol and Interpol and both work, said an insider. But not in all countries: Germany doesn´ t like that so they are not interested in a cooperation: Germany is that county with less success in international arrests.
the only ting that will help is IF countries return to being Sovereign Nations …… but then that would not fit the agenda of the One World Government/ New World Order/ NWO/Socialism/Totalitarianism
So we would have a police dictatorship like in the U.S.? no thanks…In Slovenia we don’t have terrorist attacks, so we don’t need police like that at all…every country should decide alone, if they want it. good day
An armed population, trained and ready to use force will be more what is needed not a militarized FBI or police… we already have interpol.
we have Europol already. Armed population? What, to have people shooting each others as it’s happening already
It would only be used to suppress Europeans who did not agree with the establishment
Yes.We need an European Counterterrorism Agency. Now.
Pe bune? Vrei o “Super Securitate”???
Da.Am destule argumente în favoarea ei.
So you want more EU administration and regulations. German intelligence agencies said that the creation of an European ”FBI” would only double bureacracy and make it harder for national institutions to prevent terrorism. In reality the EU only wants to spend more taxpayer cash. If you want to prevent terrorism why don’t you start with the most basic but important thing – stop accepting illegal immigrants from countries with high percentage of terrorists in the EU. Deport dangerous immigrants ( remember the imam in Barcelona who was deemed ”safe” and a person who wants to ”integrate” insociety?). The EU and its member states (most of whom are ruled by an leftist-liberal elite) don’t look for the cure of terrorism and its cause, instead they just react to its aftermath. .
Cooperation is a must in fighting terrorism, man-trafficing or drug crimes. I am sceptical if the necessary cross-border controls for such a powerful organisation could keep up.
Europol much?
shure
Are we better off without a ‘European FBI’?
Hey if you re gonna built a European police or a European army how about a democratically elected civilian executive to control it first? Nothing worse than giving law enforcement or weapons to an unaccountable body.
Why not, if you cannot protecting your family,who will protecting it
It’s a bit like asking if hiring Marc Dutroux could help protecting childrens against pedo criminals…
It’s a bit like asking if hiring Marc Dutroux could help protecting childrens against pedo criminals…
It’s a bit like asking if hiring Marc Dutroux could help protecting childrens against pedo criminals…
It’s a bit like asking if hiring Marc Dutroux could help protecting childrens against pedo criminals…
Maybe
DEPORT
to prevent more attacks
DEPORT
Yes ofc
Probably quite the opposite
Yes! Let’s unite and make United States of Europe!
Jahvol meine EUrofuhrer. Oh shit, just had a sense of something familiar about it all..?🤔
Let’s isolate the stupid idiots and traitors who spread the lying Russian and other enemie’s propaganda against EU! They are our enemies or just stinky scumbags!
How about no
no thanks.
No thanks!
Yes. Malta needs it.
Strange that Malta was award the George Cross medal for its fight against the last bunch of lunatics who wanted to unite Europe and now people like you want to surrender to its successor.
We already have Europol.
It would help much more if politicians had listened to the security professionals.
That’s not why Brussels wants one, its purpose would be to keep you EU citizens in line. an EU version of the ‘Sicherheitsdienst ‘ (SD) or ‘The People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs’ (NKVD) if you will. …Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas from a free Great Britain :)
We’ve got a straw man over here. If you’re looking for something to compare, it would be simpler to use the FBI, which acts on issues that go beyond state level.
Alexandru Sudiţoiu Did you learn the term ‘straw man’ from CNN ?
Ivan Burrows Did you learn the term “free Great Britain” from a retard?
Miguel Hilário (Troll) And there is the insult from the lefty EU fanatic with no idea how to debate. Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas from a free Great Britain :)
Ivan Burrows Seems to me you keep doing the same. A desperate and edgy right-winger whose only policy seems to be anti-EU and populism.
Miguel Hilário Of course I’m anti EU as I am anti Nazism and anti communism. I’m guessing you have not seen the latest YouGov EU wide poll because if you had you would know you are very much in the minority. The rest of your spam post was the usual left wing bile, lies and fake news so was ignored.
Too much power superseding a country will only cause trouble. Increasing cooperation is a better route and. More acceptable route. The United States of America worked because the European colonisers were all mixed ethnicities in each state. Each individual EU member country still has its identity, language and culture.
No, we do not need that. We all have this https://www.interpol.int/
come and forget Bangladesh so amazing history to get.
Lol. Most of EU is aiding terrorist in one way or the other
Including (sadly) Italy…
Rob Wainwright puts it best. Terrorism isn’t a national issue these days. It’s not ETA or IRA we’re dealing with. It’s transnational terrorist groups that have no interest in border. One attack in France then flee to Belgium or vice versa then the other way around. Giving Europol operative powers to act on issues and groups that cross European borders might help in that regard.
Closing the internal borders would help more.
Let’s waste taxpayers’ money on more and more superstructures. Blame it on insecurity. Extort money. That’s how Italian maffia rules Europe
Not only for terrorism we must have such a police force.
Send the Trojan Horse Invadors BACK to wherever they came from, cut your losses and you need no European FBI and militarization of civilized peoples.
Yes, it could prevent or reduce terrorism but quite likely it will be use instead to hunt down and silence “wrongthinkers” – a.k.a. people who criticize the EU, the immigration politics, Islam etc.
European commission does what they want to… Your opinion is not need..
Besides isn’t the Interpol already doing intentional police affairs?
yes of course, terrorist hunting has to be centralised!
Hahahhah
Quite certain not
This explains everything – force terrorists into Europe, so that you can use the terror attacks as an excuse to centralize more power.
Does the American FBI prevent terror attacks?
We are not USA to have Federal Police. Thats why we have Interpol Frontex and our own national police which can colaborate and bring the maximum results against every problem occured
There is an european FBI (interpol) already
Why wont they create a union that prosecutes the corrupted politics all over Europe???That would be something!!!!
no. STOPPING THE SALE OF WEAPONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST MIGHT!
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No, we have Europol. Besides we live together and we know how to cooperate to end threats. Besides i dont want to spend more money on an entity that os going to BE full of bureaucrats.
Stan Henderson Willie Methven thoughts on this?
wouldn’t be more simple to just stop bringing muslims into europe ? we all know the “terror” attacks are all religiously motivated , and the “terrorists” are usually muslims …
many terrirists were born in Europe. Many terrorists aren’t muslims (Anders Breivik, black block….). The idea doesn’t make sense.
yes. many problems arise from lack of coordination and cooperation. while operative, armed groups can be only national (under the control of national authorities), investigative groups and officials should be free of national barriers (criminals don’t know national barriers). they need to enforce EUROPOL.
The EU is doing everything they can to flood Europe with terrorists so no I don’t want to give our governments any more power than they already have.
we all know its not gonna prevent terror attacks its most likely going to arrest people for mean tweets
And an EU FBI which kills Russian agents ? On the spot.
the most big terrorists we have in EU are corrupted politicians, what are you doing to fight him?
Correctly structured, with proper legislation and qualified stuff must help a lot!
No, because the enemy is already in. Prepare for an urban war of civilizations or against the “religion of peace”.
It gets fishier and fishier, Im starting to think that everything was planned by Germany and France
No. Border control would.
Yes we need. And some social groups need to be in a particular surveillance.
If Europe can do ,it’s like not existing.
Absolutely!!
Yes, it would help.
Not letting unvetted people in and sending people home fast will do better job…
Green energy instead of gas and oil that would bring peace to the Middle East is a better solution. However a European FBI is a good idea anyway. It is ridiculous to have open borders and no cooperation in law enforcement.
Having open borders is ridiculous & no amount of Brussels control would stop the terrorists.
I know that. I meant it is a good idea for all reasons in general except terrorism.
I thought Europol was already a thing
Europol has not the necessary competences to make their own interventions without being explicitly tasked. It is not an autonomous police for the European union.
Probably not.
We already have Europol.
F stands for Federal and most Europeans would give a middle-finger to federalisation.
I guess most people did not yet think about the federalisation topic.
Why don’t you ask Italian Minister of foreign affair about cooperation between neighbor countries customs officers? ahahaha!
No. However, suspect terrorists should be judged by an internazional court and deteined into an international jail. Costs should be shared by all involved countries. This would prevent disparities and improper release of terrorists
All these “fancy” ideas of a European FBI, can prosper only because in Europe there is a vacuum in leadership on each Country !! The Leaders are NOT doing their job ! and leave to the various government organizations the task to set up the bricks for the Union ! (So you see “Military Schengen”, “European FBI”, “European Court” etc., without having taken care before to harmonize their respective legislation on the matter !! Send them all Home !! You will sate time and money !!
Of course not, only stopping them from entering the EU in the first place would stop the lunatics and the role of any future ‘EU FBI’ would be to monitor EU citizens, not terrorists.
Key things to know about the Paris and Brussels attacks are that they were planned by a cell of recently recently returned Belgian jihadists (some of whom were deported from turkey to the EU), from an apartment in Brussels, using serbian guns, which were originally procured in croatia and smuggled into france via 3rd countries.
Meanwhile, Belgium’s Federal Doughnut-Eater Force was too busy eating doughnuts and having coffee breaks to prevent people from getting killed.
That’s the reality today. Crime is organized and multinational, while national-level law enforcement is often incompetent, and too lazy to collaborate with their foreign counterparts. Either we do SOMETHING, or innocent civilians will continue to die.
No, it wouldn’t. The activities of Bonnie and Clyde was not prevented by FBI. An European police force like Europol might investigate criminal activities including terrorist attacks and either kill or arrest suspects, but can hardly prevent anything without some ideas to what to prevent.
Terrorist attacks are not like robberies, by the way. As long as the ideas and arguments behind the terrorism are not addressed, terrorist attacks can not be prevented. Unfortunately, news media, teachers and debatters might communicate any argument for terror attacks without the European police can do anything about it. You might even make public that Muslims should kill non-believers or publish statements from a terrorist organization without being investigated. At least in Denmark members of the parliament are safe from investigation and allowed to communicate pretty much whatever they like.
To make matters worse, much effort are made to make sure major terrorist attacks are not forgotten, meaning those performing such attacks are remembered for years to come, too.
Maybe they can arrest politicians, who supports terrorism.
Se have EUROPOL. FBI is a federal Police. UE is not a federal starr neither a state. Do foi understand the dif DE?
No, we need better interstate cooperation and border control as well as legislation for dealing with radicalized elements, not more shady transnational institutions, IMHO.
Que dirá Berengere Dreno o el Secretario de Interpol.
they will do the attacks :)))) so .. NOP!
Soros, you again?