In summer 2016, the mayor of Cannes banned the burkini. Over two-dozen other French towns soon followed suit, many of them along the French Riviera. The mayor of Nice supported the ban, arguing that its wearing was a “provocation” in the aftermath of the terror attack on his city in July 2016.

Photographs soon emerged of women being fined by police for wearing the burkini, including one controversial set of pictures seemingly showing armed police forcing a Muslim woman to remove her long-sleeved clothing (not a burkini) on a beach in Nice. Witnesses allege that bystanders were shouting for the women to ‘go home’.

The ban was soon overturned by France’s highest administrative court. However, former French president Nicolas Sarkozy pledged to change the constitution in order to forbid the wearing of burkinis on French beaches if he was elected president in 2017. His bid to become the centre-right candidate for the Élysée Palace ultimately failed, so the court’s ruling remained in place.

What do our readers think? We had a comment sent in from Lucy on our ‘Suggest a Debate’ page, wondering what MEPs thought about the burkini ban that had briefly been instated in a series of French cities earlier in 2016.

Should the burkini be banned? We asked Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) from all sides of the political spectrum to stake out their positions on this question, and it’s up to YOU to vote for the policies you favour. See what the different MEPs have to say, then vote at the bottom of this debate for the one you most agree with! Take part in the vote below and tell us who you support in the European Parliament!

Radical Left
Malin Björk (GUE-NGL), Member of the European Parliament:

Greens
Benedek Jávor (Group of the Greens):

Liberal Democrats
Sophie in t’ Veld (ALDE), Member of the European Parliament:

sophie-in-t-veld-mepNo. I don’t like the burkini and I don’t like the idea behind it, but I also don’t like governments telling people what they can and cannot wear. Those people who are in favour of the burkini are rarely people making a serious effort for gender equality, and the calls for banning the burkini have had much more to do with Islamophobia.

Centre Right
Anna Maria Corazza Bildt (EPP), Member of the European Parliament:

Conservatives
Anneleen Van Bossuyt (ECR), Member of the European Parliament:

Eurosceptics

Beatrix von Storch (EFDD), Member of the European Parliament:

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    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      Nadia Dereguardati @debatoria

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      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

  1. avatar
    Любомир Иванчев

    Any clothing that covers the face and is not related to work requirements or safety requirements has to be banned. Apart from that they should be able to wear a ballroom dress at the beach if they want to.

    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

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      Barbara Szela Lesniak

      Are you sure it’s what those women really want to wear and if they love the way they’re treated by their men? Who is that freedom for?

    • avatar
      Daniel M Idrees

      Barbara Szela Lesniak Why do you think that these Women are forced to wear this by their men?

    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

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      Yasmine

      What about people that don’t want to wear ANYTHING :-)?

  2. avatar
    Bódis Kata

    Burka, burkini, hijab with full body cover >> very practical to cover up the bruising, the men won’t get into trouble for exercising their rights to punishment.

    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

  3. avatar
    Stefano Ciarrocchi

    No. We can not say “you know what? For you right of woman you must be more naked as we decided for you”

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      Andrian Marinov

      Its not her right as a woman. The “religion” enforces them to do stuff that they dont want to. Stoning females because they are in love is an example.

    • avatar
      Stefano Ciarrocchi

      I understand what you mean but we can not force someone to do someting just because someone else did the same in the opposite way. If we care about freedom we must find a different, probably harder, way to solve this problem

    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

  4. avatar
    Bobi Dochev

    Probably yes thy should! This woman are already forced to wear it because their relatives ask them or the mullah says they should!

    • avatar
      Marco Albrecht

      so because the woman are forced to wear it you want to force the woman also not to leave the home?

    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

  5. avatar
    Spiros Kontogiorgis

    Of course! Europe – and the western civilization in general – provide and promote freedom not restrictions… Besides that’s the main reason Muslims come to Europe!

    • avatar
      Nicolas Janberg

      And that’s exactly why it cannot and shouldn’t be banned. If they want to wear it, they have every right to do so.

    • avatar
      Nicolas Janberg

      Why do you believe it’s not their choice? How are you going to differentiate between someone who wants to wear it or someone who may be forced to? By banning the burkini these women would again be forced to wear something. A bathing suit which they may not want or wouldn’t feel comfortoble in. Is that really better?

      In fact if you look at bathing fashion in Europe throughout the ages then you will see that women in Europe used to wear dresses to go swimming as well. (http://www.victoriana.com/library/Beach/FashionableBathingSuits.htm)

    • avatar
      Spiros Kontogiorgis

      You put it in a very logical basis, in which I agree! You have to understand though that when it comes to Muslims these actions are taken for a reason… A reason that doesn’t has to do with the respect of freedom…

    • avatar
      Nicolas Janberg

      Also, in legal matters, the logical basis is the only argument that counts.

    • avatar
      Spiros Kontogiorgis

      I agree 100 %! Do you believe that Muslims in Europe respect the European laws?!?

    • avatar
      Anna Hayek

      They need to integrate and get assimilated. Wearing that oppressive symbol is not for what they came to Europe. This shows that they continue their way of life and don’t accept our values.

    • avatar
      Nicolas Janberg

      So what are our values? Forcing clothing habits on everyone?

    • avatar
      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

  6. avatar
    Julia Hadjikyriacou

    The EU wants to ban the choice to cover your own body at the beach and force people to either wear a bikini against their will in order to access the beach or never be able to go to the beach? When did the EU become a fusion of opressive, controlling and a playboy mansion?

    • avatar
      Nicolas Janberg

      The EU has never proposed this and probably never could as I would think it’s not in their jurisdiction to do so. And when you look at the videos and comments in the post, only the extreme right in the European parliament is actually for such a ban.

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      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

  7. avatar
    Hector Niehues-Jeuffroy

    No. The burkini doesn’t cover the face and therefore there isn’t an issue with transparency or identification. Let people wear what they want.

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      Hani Frd

      @debatoria

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    Yavor Hadzhiev

    No. Because Christian nuns shouldn’t be forbinned to cover their body and hair too. What is so controversial about the burkini? I don’t get it. There aren’t any security issues related to it. It’s only worn on the beach and it leaves the face of a woman visible enough for identification. This is all about harrassing someone perceived as culturally too different. :/

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      Barbara Szela Lesniak

      Well, what kind of freedom is that when you deny your women to be free and do what they want? If we’re talking about the culture clash, isn’t the respect for freedom and human rights, and the country’s law supposed to be mutual? There would be no problem at all if democracy weren’t used to fight against European culture and tradition. ‘When in Rome, do as the Roman do’ ….

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      زكرياء الضراوي

      I totally agree with you. But, do you think that all these women are forced to wear the hijab ? Do you ? My mom is wearing it and no one forced her to do that. We live in a free land where everyone has the rights to do and say whatever he like. Don’t you think that our politicians are just taking our attention away debating all this phoney debates meanwhile our economies are in a total disaster ? Think about it ? These women are living in Europe. They are protected by european laws. We’re not talking about Saoudi Arabia or the UAE.
      Peace up

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      Barbara Szela Lesniak

      زكرياء الضراوي OK but why they or rather their men put sharia law above the law of the European country they’ve decided to live in? And one more thing – we have to remember about -ISIS uses our democracy and lliberty to fight agaist our culture which they openly admit they hate. How can we defend ourselves when they send women and children armed with explosive belts to kill themselves and others…. You cannot play this game when rulles are not followed….,

    • avatar
      Anna Hayek

      You remember about the human rights only when they mean an advantage for you. But then you totally ignore it when it comes to respecting the people and the country that let you in.

    • avatar
      زكرياء الضراوي

      Anna Hayek I’m not a refugee. I’m european just like you ! I have the right to move, settle, travel, work where i wish !

    • avatar
      Bódis Kata

      Great. It’s time to remember your obligations too. You’ve got obligations, not only rights.

  9. avatar
    Rácz Tivadar

    Y E S!
    Who wants to wear a bur…whatsoever, please take an onewayticket, and move eastwards to the other bathmaids.

  10. avatar
    Domenico Cavallaro

    We have to respect them if we go in their countries. THEY HAVE TO RESPECT US IN OUR COUNTRY!! No covering no burkini no veils!

    • avatar
      Nadia Dereguardati

      to be dressed is not a problem! are you troubled to NOT SEE NACKED WOMEN? this has nothing to do with rules!

    • avatar
      Nadia Dereguardati

      your name looks Italian so how many nuns you meet in the Italian streets?? you should say the same for the nuns!!!

    • avatar
      Domenico Cavallaro

      Nuns are like priests in someway so nothing to do with ordinary women.

  11. avatar
    Horea Scalat

    Mocked openly and the reasons for wearing it questioned every step of the way? Yes, absolutely!
    Banned? No. It’s a piece of clothing, after all.

    • avatar
      João Machado

      If you’re able to mock it without being murdered by some fanatic (our a few thousands of them…) then I fully subscribe!

    • avatar
      Horea Scalat

      João that goes beyond the scope of the original question though.
      I think we can agree that you can’t fight a toxic ideology that seeks to undermine everything we value most and the kind of religious fanaticism that would lead to such violence by simply banning a piece of clothing, while ignoring the actual problem. That accomplishes nothing, except for putting limitations on the very same freedom we’re supposed to be defending.

  12. avatar
    Vinko Rajic

    Islamic science and our smart Christians are always our pioneers . For the same time the EU produce pollution Arabs developed clean energy for the future . Thanks to them we have modern science , solar panels , electric cars , we know how to build and protect environment . They build and financed huge factories in China to build electric cars and solar panels . Do you know why in China , because we atheist in the EU did everything to prevent them to develop , atheist wanted to export oil and burn fossil fuels , only to make big money , greed .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2pRGuY0WxE

    • avatar
      João Machado

      What is this have to do with the question in hand I don’t know….. but anyway half of it is BS and extremely biased.

    • avatar
      Jason Smith

      Well, that’s a pack of lies. Solar panels invented in fance, and developed in Europe and the USA. Wind turbine generation invented in the US and developed in the US, Europe and Japan. Hydroelectric invented in the US and developed by the US and the British. Tidal power invented and developed in Europe. Geothermal power invented by Europe and and developed by Europe, Russia and US. If you’re counting nuclear, again, US and Europe, with later development by USSR.

    • avatar
      Jason Smith

      It’s also somewhat hypocritical, considering Arabs are by far the biggest net beneficiaries of fossil fuels in the world.

  13. avatar
    Katrin Mpakirtzi

    Shound they Stop murder crucified IDIGENOUS Christians in their countries tooking their homeland? Should they stop be barbarians and respect other religions without our blood? We dont give a sit about burginis and their morality. They are murderers with moral….faces.

    • avatar
      Stephen Challen

      Two negatives don’t make a positive. Equally two wrongs don’t make a right. If we all said that we’d not obey the law until everyone did then we would have anarchy. Yes, we should be making a strong stand against the Islamic murdering of all those who don’t accept the faith.

      To really do so we have to stop denying that it is driven by their religious beliefs. Islam means Peace which isn’t the same concept of Peace we have in the West. Peace for Islam is brought through the acceptance of all people to Islam and the purging of non-believers. ISIS is just following the logical conclusion.

      All that said when in History do we find a successful method from direct opposition to changing the hearts and minds of people? The answer is certainly not in banning clothes. It is enforcing, adhering to, and protecting our laws to protect religious freedom and to protect the vulnerable in society.

  14. avatar
    Nadia Dereguardati

    you have such MANIA to oblige people to dress WHAT you like??? let the dress what they want! otherwise WHERE IS YOUR DECLARED FREEDOM???

  15. avatar
    Andrea Brown

    Seriously. We have the rise of popularism, bail outs, economies in a mess and potential security threats. Who cares what anyone wears. If someone wears something that covers there face that falls under security. Outside that I really couldn’t care less and wish distraction type politics such as this would disappear.

    • avatar
      Andrea Brown

      João Machado Anything that covers the face such as helmet, gimp mask, burka, etc should not be allowed in public places. A helmet is being on a motorcycle, not going in to bank. As for clothing on the body, people should wear what they want.

  16. avatar
    Stephen Challen

    In the UK we have a long standing legal position which should be protected at all costs. It’s call freedom. This concept of Freedom stems from Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech. We have the Equality Act 2010 which is the latest expression of those laws. It has the appropriate checks and balances in it.

    I hold to an old fashioned concept of conservatism which the Tory party have long forgotten and who the Labour Party when first established actually held to. Yup Labour was conservative and the Tory’s were socialist in the good old days. Thats why the colours in the UK are back to front from the USA :)

    So in summary no they should not be banned. It’s like asking if Bikinis should be banned but from an opposite position. Our society is not based on the concept of women wearing the least possible. A birkini does not cause problems for someone ascertaining the individual’s identity and so I cannot see that it can be a security issue either.

    If Muslims were saying they wanted to change the law so we all had to wear them then you’d have a rightful basis to object. But we’ve not yet got that far.

    This seems to me to ultimately be asking if a woman of any faith or none is allowed to wear more than a bikini on the beach. So to say they don’t have that right would be quite discriminatory against women. If the women did not wish to wear it and are being forced to then it is that which is wrong rather than the clothing. We have laws for that type of issue and we do not need to start banning clothing. Clinton supporters wanted to ban T-Shirts and Baseball Caps. Seriously? Do we really want to go down that path? What are we socialists?

  17. avatar
    Tony Petersen

    P.S. burkinis have been embraced by people allergic to the sun – and they come in all faiths, shapes and sexes. Not that this should change anything. However, for marketing purposes may I suggest a name change, if only to expose the bigotry.

  18. avatar
    Jean-Pierre Rosa

    Only if the nun habit is banned as well along with Sikh turbans. Otherwise it’s just discriminatory targeting.

  19. avatar
    Gio Dimitriadis

    I am more more interested into a law that would castrate rapists (many of them think woman should be raped and punished if she dresses not in the way they want her to) than a law which would ban burkini. I neither condemn nor support burkini, I just do not care. What I care is that if another woman decides to wear a bikini, will not be raped for this.

  20. avatar
    Paul

    No. Much as I personally hate the alienating effect the Islamic dress code has on the wearers banning it does nothing but feed the radical idiots and their claim the west hates Islam
    Whilst there is a case for banning full face coverings on the grounds of security with reference to the photo accompanying this thread,essentially the woman doesn’t look much different to somebody in a wet suit, are they going to be banned as well?

    At the end of the day the vast majority of people go to a beach to soak up the sun but if someone wants to dress like that and they don’t mind looking stupid and being be stared at on they go, it is definitely idiotic but I would hardly say it should be illegal

    • avatar
      Andu Ogodai

      I propose we ban moronic faces.

    • avatar
      Tiago Boavida

      Andu Ogodai , so start with your suggestion snd take your face Out of here.

  21. avatar
    Jean-Daniel Zomou

    “[…] Nicolas Sarkozy pledged to change the constitution in order to forbid the wearing of burkinis on French beaches if he was elected president in 2017” Well that’s one thing that be happening this year 😂

  22. avatar
    Rosy Forlenza

    No. I think it is the right of every woman to decide the amount of coverage she wishes to have on a beach. I would ban the full veil in all circumstances but not the headscarf. the full veil is an insult to our liberal democracies, as are arranged marriages, fgm. However, on the beach is someone wants wear a wetsuit, jeans and a teashirt, or a show it all of bikini thong then it is their choice and in keeping with our values (despite the fashion trade not providing many of us with much choice in relation to costume design).

  23. avatar
    Rebecca Mclaughlin

    Does it cover their face? No it doesn’t. No it should not be banned, neither should sun hats, neither should swimming hats, neither should bikinis and neither should be diving gear. Don’t let people take our freedoms away.

  24. avatar
    Nicola Piazzalunga

    Why caring about something like this? Give freedom to dress as wanted. Stop being illiberals. We gotta face climate change, poverty, famine, migrations and much, much more. Sincerely, I do not want to debate about the burkini.

    • avatar
      Pop Roger

      “stop being illiberals”
      implying any sane person would want to be a liberal

    • avatar
      Nicola Piazzalunga

      It implies to stop disrespecting the others. Liberty is not property of just those formally liberal.

  25. avatar
    Limoc X Mihai

    No but all religious people should accept each other, seminaries should be forced by law on this.

  26. avatar
    Nando Aidos

    Burkinis is not where it all starts. It all starts with the repression of wome’s rights, by their own societies, to wear whatever clothes they feel like.
    And as such the burkini is a testemonial of women’s oppression by those societies, by those communities, by those families.
    The burkini is but a symptom of a deeper problem that needs to be addressed.
    THAT women’s rights problem is not acceptable in our society!
    Let us fix the problem, not the symptom!

    • avatar
      Andrei Gabriel

      I vote for people who choose as a perfect model a pédophile and murderer to go “vote” in saudi Arabia.

    • avatar
      Andrei Gabriel

      We ll give you à Nice pork skin suit you mf

  27. avatar
    nando

    Burkinis is not where it all starts. It all starts with the repression of wome’s rights, by their own societies, to wear whatever clothes they feel like.
    And as such the burkini is a testemonial of women’s oppression by those societies, by those communities, by those families.
    The burkini is but a symptom of a deeper problem that needs to be addressed.
    THAT women’s rights problem is not acceptable in our society!
    Let us fix the problem, not the symptom!

  28. avatar
    Kianglek Tan

    It should be permitted, alongside nudity.

    This will cast the burkini out of the unnecessary spotlight it does not deserve.

    • avatar
      Marcus Costa

      Visual Identification, laser id, and general safety and security issues.

    • avatar
      Marcus Costa

      Visual Identification, laser id, and general safety and security issues.

    • avatar
      Janiko Emma

      No more scuba diving then :/

    • avatar
      Nicolò Perini

      You go for a walk in scuba diving suit?

  29. avatar
    Mihela Zupancic

    Before going into this, you should also deal with the question if women are wearing burkinis out of free will or because of some patriarchal/cultural/religious pressure.

    • avatar
      António Espadaneira

      Nobody cares about that point. People just want to be right

  30. avatar
    Tobi Allende

    If europe defends religious tolerance and freedom then 100% not but if europe defends fascism hatred and extremism then yes.

  31. avatar
    Radovan Obal

    does it cover the face, concealing the identity? No? Then why the f** do you care?

  32. avatar
    Osmen Ajruli

    on beaches i watch the blue sky the trees i swim,, blue water coffee drinking and enjoying the peace that summer and See or lake gives

  33. avatar
    Rene Il-Majna Farrugia

    As long as the face is visible i dont see the problem why it should be banned… if this is banned should people swimming with t shirts be banned too?

    • avatar
      Domenico Cavallaro

      It’s dangerous that’s why. To many extremist terrorist committed crimes. Bombs could be hidden this way.

    • avatar
      Callum Hurley

      If you wanna play by that game, so should Bulgarians.

    • avatar
      Александър Михайлов

      Being Bulgarian is unfortunately something I am born with, it’s not just a cumbersome rag that I can strip off while at the beach, like everyone else does

  34. avatar
    noel

    Burkinis shouldn’t be banned. Non muslim women can wear them too if they want. Islam should be banned instead because it is violent, intolerant and misogynistic and totally incompatible with Europe’s values of tolerance and equality.

  35. avatar
    Ferdy Mookhoek

    Ban it.
    Religion should only be practiced within the confinements of ones own house or house of prayer.

  36. avatar
    Riccardo Zael Pessato

    It’s not a simple matter of religion or whatnot. Problem is: what if, under that, has lots of bruises (we know modern Islamic views on women)? We can’t know if she’s being well or if she should need help. Or what if she has a skin desease that can be passed through direct contact with water? Anyone who’s bathing there is at risk, and it turns into a safety/health problem.
    What if the cloth remains stuck on rocks and she can’t tear it? Her own life then is at risk.

  37. avatar
    Pedro Vieira

    Freedom to all Let there be naked people in all beach in europe that is the real and only way to respond

  38. avatar
    Ana Cunha

    Absolutely not! What does anybody have to do with what other people wear? I don’t even understand why this is still a question.

    • avatar
      Nana Kwame Samuel

      It wouldn’t be a problem if Amina, the teenage daughter of Alhaj Bin Laden, after choosing to wear a bikini to the beach wouldn’t be disowned by her father. Nor will be raped as a punishment in Riyadh.

      The gist lies not in the freedom to wear or not to wear but the primary force which makes the young moslem grow to feel obliged to.

      What you are supporting is akin to saying since the people of Saudi agree women shouldn’t drive a car so it is the rights of the women of Riyadh for not driving, or?

    • avatar
      Mark

      I know I know, I get really annoyed when people question if it’s appropriate for me to be wearing a nazi uniform to my job at a nursery.

  39. avatar
    Lynda Germon

    Why on Earth should anybody ban it …it less offensive than those fat people wearing string bikinis !🙈🙉🙊

    • avatar
      Alex Droner

      “Earth isn’t divided between black or white.
      There is grey between both.”

      It’s the same thing with clothes….
      :-(

  40. avatar
    Bernardo Sá Nogueira Mergulhão

    NO! but stupidity should be banned fast…now let’s star debating Europe and what the European Union stands for….nobody is getting it anymore and it’s getting harder to keep defending you

  41. avatar
    Dylan Djavit

    Personnaly, I m more disturbed by a woman showing her breast in the beach or a naked man btw than a woman with a simple scarf and plain clothes but I accept both as long as the beaches don’t turn into one kind of people on one side and the other at the opposite, a fractured society and that I can still go freely without anyone asking me to wear this or don’t wear that.

  42. avatar
    Maria Rodrigues

    When we look at women, it’s a problem this kind of questions. Women are free, human beings. What else? I am sick of discrimination.

    • avatar
      Rahul Trehan

      Are they going on beaches hahahah

  43. avatar
    Bernadett Parrag

    Can men finally stop legislating about what women must or must not wear…? Can we just please wear what we feel comfortable in, all covered up, all showing or anything in between (uuuhm just like men)?

  44. avatar
    Ben Waites

    Isn’t this more of a summer debate topic? (And a last summer topic at that)

  45. avatar
    Andrei Gabriel

    No mulsilms= no hallal, no burka, no “honour murders” , no terrorism, no more “no go zones ” , no ghetto, no stupid revendications, etc etc etc

    • avatar
      Luis Pires

      0% knowledge of the subject = pronouncing “Allah” and “Muslims” Incorrectly + other ridiculous and inaccurate connections :D

  46. avatar
    Craig Willy

    Real question: who though it was a good idea to allow these people to settle Europe?

    • avatar
      Heena Mohammed

      Real question: Who thought it was a good idea to allow Europe to colonise the rest of the world?

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Heena Mohammed
      North Africa is dominated by Muslims because they attempted to settle in said area and beyond.

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Heena, nobody did. The local populations were unable to offer resistance. However, Islam expanded by means of Jihad. Prior to the expansion of the Arabs and their conquests, the local populations in North Africa were pagan. In Iran people were Zoroastrian , in Pakistan Buddhist etc. Some Pakistani tribes still are pagan. Read about it.

  47. avatar
    Tarquin Farquhar

    The Burkini SHOULD not be banned outright – it should not be allowed in banks and the like.

    To ban the Burkini is totally wrong. This French inspired secularist approach will be banned once French Muslims take this issue to the ECHR.

  48. avatar
    Romain Demoustiez

    most of my friends and I don’t care about the Burkini…
    it doesn’t mean that politicians can do whatever they want, it means it shouldn’t be banned and we have far more important matters to discuss about such as the opacity of treaties

  49. avatar
    Erik Kurbos

    Yes. If so many people love enjoying the fruit of the western culture, then they should also adapt to that culture and its values. It’s like with a plant in you house. If people just enjoy a fruit of a plant in their house and don’t want to water that plant, then the plant will die.

    • avatar
      Gabriele Scollo

      Our main value is FREEDOM. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of wearing whatever you f*****g want. These stupid rules are only helping the radicalization of islam instead of making everyone feel home.

    • avatar
      Erik Kurbos

      Yes, but the problem is thier main value is NOT freedom, NOT freedom of religion and NOT wearing whatever you want. Their main value is SHARIA LAW. Maybe you should learn something about that law. Because when they come here, how do you think they will try to use that freadom they are given? By spreading common sense, or by building mosques and advocating sharia law? Learn some history, don’t be naive enough to believe that just by being here muslims will stand for everything that we stand for. What if they do to Europe what they did to Lebanon? Mosques are being built all over Europe. How many churches do they have over in Saudi Arabia?

    • avatar
      Maira Dunglin

      Gabriele Scollo naive thing to say….. I would accept the burkini if both men and women wear it……. women are not free since freedom is “your saying”, women have “accquired behaviour” they learn what to do and say since birth….

    • avatar
      Mark

      Not sure mate, I never understand the looks I get when I stroll around town in my KKK gown, people shouldn’t cause such a fuss.

  50. avatar
    Maia Alexandrova

    Should a Nazi uniform or insignia be allowed, if someone wanted to wear them? Wearing an Islamic cloak is like a Nazi badge – it says to everyone “I am a slave to men and would do anything they order me to, even if it is against my will, even if it causes me a great discomfort or pain. As a woman I am nothing and therefore I am not allowed to have a will of my own. I am bound to follow every whim that the men in my life have, accept their humiliation and control over me because this is what the Quran says I should do.”

    Do we Europeans not have at least a slight problem with that?

  51. avatar
    catherine benning

    The Burkini is a red herring. Many women, especially those with sun allergies and gross overweight, want to cover their bodies from sight for health reasons or embarrassment.

    What should be banned, and especially in schools, is the wearing of the Burqua or scarf. Female children, under the age of 18 and in the company of other young girls, should not be exposed to guilt projection onto girls of a secular society that is desperately trying to raise the self esteem of women. This is a uniform that suggests females are of a lower caste to the male of the species. Or, that their body and hair is somehow ‘evil’ if it is seen, as to do so stimulates the male out of control of his sexual urges. This is extremism and unacceptable.

    What should happen is, families who feel this is an appalling environment for their girls to be raised, should refuse to send them to schools where it is allowed and promoted. Governments must be held to account for their policies that go against the rights of Europeans to keep a culture and society that has protected them from abuse for years by elevating the role of women.

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Catherine agreed. With a little note: myself suffer from a VERY bad sun allergy…The whole purpose of going to the beach is so that you get exposed to the sun and when you are in the water you want your skin to be in contact with the water. So, unless, you are going to do this, is there any point in going to the beach at all? For me, not really. Appreciate that other people feel differently about it and if you have kids, you may actually have to go to the beach and be in the water them. There is medication to prevent the break-outs, medicated sun-creams and after certain hours when there is no longer strong radiation, you don’t need to worry about the allergy. OK, the water is already a bit cold by that time. But swimming in clothing increases resistance from the water and must be very difficult. so, I wonder how effective a life guard in a burkini can be, as there are a few in Australia.

      Overall, the demand for women to cover up in public spaces is offensive to our culture but this is a view prevented to be expressed in the UK, at least. The BBC had an article a while back titled “Is the burkini offensive?” or something similar. But the content of the article consisted entirely of Muslim women asking how anyone can find the burkini offensive and giving their reasons why they want to wear it. There was not a single quote from someone who does find it offensive and their reasons why. All we see and hear is people defending its use but people who genuinely find it offensive are silenced from the big media. Why?

      A few debated back this page was asking if we trust Russian media…

  52. avatar
    Lucia

    Arrêtons de vouloir contrôler la façon dont les femmes s’habillent. Laissons-les libres de choisir!

  53. avatar
    Mark

    Definitely not and I shall require all women to wear one.

  54. avatar
    Yasmine

    The burkini should be banned in public pools especially outdoor ones, as it is not hygienic. However, it should not be banned on the beach, as there are people with sun-related conditions that need to wear it and sea water is safer than pool water.

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      especially indoor pools with no sun, was what I meant to say.

  55. avatar
    eusebiomanuelvestiaspecurto

    The European federal states must build what works Not for Burkini in Europe

  56. avatar
    György

    Yes it should be banned. There should be a pressure from employers not to employ people in traditional rags, with beards, not to allow prayers during work hours etc. Muslims have to taught even pressured to leave their religion for their spare time just as Europeans do. And we should not bow to the fear. Counterrorism must come from massively increased surveillance not from appeasing an inward looking parallel society. We must brake up the monolithic nature of muslim communities and actively integrate them.

    • avatar
      Greg Gakis

      Sir, this is irrelevant, if rape was in someone’s culture, or lack thereof, and religion, would that make it a legitimate thing to legalise? In fact, you are making the classic argument, in different words of course, that because something is a certain way, it should be legal. I have, as you may have noticed, neither supported nor rejected a ban so do not jump to a conclusion on my opinion on the issue. I am merely stating that your reasoning is not the right reasoning. Laws should be based on reason and evidence, not the habits of the past.

    • avatar
      George Guedes

      Eles precisam compartilhar nossa cultura, uma vez que imigra eles deixam de lado alguns laços com o país deles.

    • avatar
      Skender Fetahi

      First of all sorry for my english.
      You cant make connection of burkini and rape,its not even similar,burkini doesnt hurt nobody else.

    • avatar
      Skender Fetahi

      I only want to say that the world dont need to be divided in this time by who believe in what ,everybody can dress whatever he/she wants.

    • avatar
      Skender Fetahi

      Should we banne ties and suits because these people are doing all the wars and other bad things to humanity

    • avatar
      Skender Fetahi

      And please tell me why it should be banned?what are the reasons?

  57. avatar
    Michael Šimková

    Running out of polemics, are we? I sympathise. How about nuclear power? That’s always guaranteed to get a rise out of people. What if we annexed England and turned it into a large nuclear power station for continental Europe? Do you think they would mind?

  58. avatar
    Márcia Lima Gonçalves

    Michael Šimková very good! If it is about creating polemics, lets drive them ourselves to what should be matter of worry and discussion. What about making Europe great again, as in the last century, and turn the UE a far-right dictatorship, all of us together? Maybe UK would re-join again, it would solve Brexit problem, right?

    • avatar
      Imanuel d'Anjou

      Because their Democratic values should inspire us. Got it.

    • avatar
      Domenico Cavallaro

      Its a way to make them understand that they cant do what ever they want in other countries .They have to colabarate and open their minds.

    • avatar
      Uli Czeranka

      We open their minds by behaving like spoiled teenagers. Clever

    • avatar
      Domenico Cavallaro

      You should worry of bringing democracy in islamic countries! Not of imposing their rules in Europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • avatar
      Torben Stiene

      Domeniko has won the honk-of-the-day award 👏

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Domenico Cavallaro yeah like Democrazy in Iraq, Afganistan and Libya right?

      Wonder which country want democracy now?

      Oh right Syria, wonderful democracy!

    • avatar
      Brian Grover

      Kismat Khan lives in Gothenburg….

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Brian Grover And work for Volvo! :D

      Is that an important information here?

  59. avatar
    Heres Oliveira

    No.. Thats not warming… But if someone dresses like a mummy with a possibility that’s carrying a bomb… It shouldn’t be allowed

    • avatar
      Costi Ciudin

      and a guy wearing an european style trench coat could not carry a bomb?

    • avatar
      Torben Stiene

      People having the intelligence of yours, should be banned Heres 😂

    • avatar
      Barbara Szela Lesniak

      Costi Ciudin – how many of such do or have done during the last 10 years?

    • avatar
      Imanuel d'Anjou

      They should integrate but you can spell your name in Jap, riiiight

    • avatar
      カメニャク マリオ

      I am Croatian, born and raised in Croatia. And to whichever country I move in the future I plan to fully integrate. I even went to Erasmus to Germany and sometimes I felt more at home there than in Croatia.
      I on the contrary sometimes feel out of touch with my home culture, because I feel I am able to objectively look at its flaws and benefits. Which is a completely different issue.

      Although I would like to one day visit Japan and maybe stay in it, the reasons for my name are actually privacy reasons. I feel uncomfourtable with the fact that people could just look up my name and see everything I do here. Even worse if a potential job recruiter looks up my name…

    • avatar
      Uli Czeranka

      Well, since u are member of EU xou certainly have the power to integrate. Just look at your neighbor countries. They are part of the current immigration debate. So you speak from a position not understanding the reality of other cultures and people coming to europe

    • avatar
      カメニャク マリオ

      As hypocritical as this may be, even being progressive has it’s neccesary evils.

    • avatar
      Cormac Begley

      Integration isn’t the same as abandoning your religion and culture, it’s living in peaceful accordance with the culture of wherever you are now. Wearing a burkini doesn’t harm anyone and western cultures are supposed to value freedom of expression and gender equality, both of which the burkini ban undermines

    • avatar
      カメニャク マリオ

      Fine, if you think so, you have a right to your opinion. I however remain on my stance. There is no construction without destruction.

  60. avatar
    Christofer Sjöholm

    I think you should advice against it. Swimming in clothes is for experienced and skilled swimmers only. Other than that all people should wear full cover clothes in marine environment when the sun is sharp. Policing peoples beachwear is ridiculous.

    • avatar
      Péter Sebők

      It is opposite that we call enlightenment

    • avatar
      Laurent Grandjean

      In the cold of January, I assume that they think it’s an important question for now …

  61. avatar
    Vicente Silva Tavares

    Islam is a fascist, ultraconservative and misogynist ideology. They never will integrate. Only if they became ex-Muslims.

  62. avatar
    Nando Aidos

    What is the essence of our objection to the burkini?
    This must be clearly stated! Also,
    What will be accomplished if we tell these women to stop?
    and…
    What do we want to accomplish as a society that the banning of the burkini will be a major component?

    • avatar
      Andrian Marinov

      Every other religion in the world, right now, tells women to wear whatever they want. Islam is telling them to hide their bodies or they are going to be beaten by their housbands or stoned to death by the “good citizens”. It’s not their choice, remember this.

    • avatar
      Nando Aidos

      I know that. But to take blind action against women’s clothing is counterproductive. What are we accomplishing by telling the women to stop wearing burkinis? That they cannot go to the beach? And that their husbands can continue beating them up because they do not wear burkinis on the beach? So the women get firmly squeezed from both sides, society and their husbands.
      What are we accomplishing then? That is the fundamental question.
      The fundamental problem has to be addressed and it is not by prohibiting women from wearing their clothing.
      We need to think deeper than this.

  63. avatar
    nando

    What is the essence of our objection to the burkini?
    This must be clearly stated!
    Also,
    What will be accomplished if we tell these women to stop?
    and…
    What do we want to accomplish as a society in our society that the banning of the burkini will be a major component or detriment?

  64. avatar
    JD Blaha

    perhaps if we debate this during sub zero winter months Europeans can be more rational about it?

  65. avatar
    Thomas Hou

    None of our business, everyone should be allowed to wear what she/he wants to wear. Dress codes should be banned!

    • avatar
      Andrian Marinov

      Every other religion in the world, right now, tells women to wear whatever they want. Islam is telling them to hide their bodies or they are going to be beaten by their housbands or stoned to death by the “good citizens”. It’s not their choice, remember this.

  66. avatar
    Franco Suarez

    Do skiers in Europe cover their heads to cause fear on the surrounding prejudiced population? We are nothing but vile racist islamophobes. Our NATO troops should stop participating in the destruction of countries to avoid having refugees.

    • avatar
      Franco Suarez

      Barbara Szela Lesniak yes! NATO and Israeli soldiers and mercenaries from Europe, but our propaganda shelters us from such reality.

  67. avatar
    Andrian Marinov

    Every other religion in the world, right now, tells women to wear whatever they want. Islam is telling them to hide their bodies or they are going to be beaten by their housbands or stoned to death by the “good citizens”. It’s not their choice, remember this.

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Have you ever talk to woman who wear it?

    • avatar
      Johnny Sintra

      No, you’re wrong. If you were on a beach in the country of these foreigners do you think they would allow you to wear a bikini? No way, you’d be arrested and convicted. The right of reciprocity is a norm in international law. Sorry to have to tell you this but it’s because of people who think like you that the world will never improve

    • avatar
      Elena Andersson

      It does not affect us. It is their choise. I don’t know about other countries but in mine we treat Muslims as our own. We have been living with them for so long that we gladly evolved together. We respect them and they respect us. This is not about what would happen to us if we went to Syria or else. It is about their choise. If they want to wear bikini or takini they can. So if they want to wear that they cannot? Sincerely, there are more important topics to worry about.

    • avatar
      Fábio Vicente

      Johnny Sintra Your argument is valid however you shouldn’t compare developed countries that evolved and moved away from religion to dictate their laws with the ones that are still using it… besides you can always opt for not going to these countries if you don’t agree with their way of living. Should human kind aim for freedom, tolerance, development and toleration or keep repeating the same mistakes of the past?

  68. avatar
    Audrey Ellis

    Has long has their face and hands are not covered ,whats the problem , better than baring your breasts , although I did it when I was young ,
    Some women don’t like to reveal their bodies ,
    so this would be in the same category .Stop
    complaining , this is what is wrong with the world to day .Let people enjoy themselves in their own
    way .

  69. avatar
    Johnny Sintra

    If a western lady were on a beach in the country of these foreigners do you think they would allow her to wear a bikini? No way, she’d be arrested and convicted. The right of reciprocity is a norm in international law. Sorry to have to say this but it’s because of people stubbornly tolerant of these radicals that the world will never improve. In their country they do what they want, if we visit them we must follow their laws, so they will have to follow ours. It’s just that.

    • avatar
      Fábio Vicente

      Your argument is valid however you shouldn’t compare developed countries that evolved and moved away from religion to dictate their laws with the ones that are still using it… besides you can always opt for not going to these countries if you don’t agree with their way of living. Should human kind aim for freedom, tolerance, development and toleration or keep repeating the same mistakes of the past?

    • avatar
      Iván Marsh Whateley

      the right of reciprocity? where in hell is that right written? the right of reciprocity are they in the human rights declaration or what? please dude. PLEASE. stop embarrasing yourself and europeans thank you. and discuss about EUROPE not what other countries out of Europe do.
      and the laws in Europe say that anyone can have the religion they want and express themselves as they want just not hurting anyone ok? their is freedom to profess your religion. for gods sake what a stubborn stupidity.

    • avatar
      Iván Marsh Whateley

      Article 18.

      Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

      UN HUMAN RIGHTS form http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ got it now? you able to understand what freedom of religion in any place is? please what a genius you are….

  70. avatar
    Iván Marsh Whateley

    should nuns costumes be banned? No? Should priests clothes be banned? No? should monks habits banned? No? should crucifixes be banned? no? should any form of expression or religion be banned? NO?

    • avatar
      Bódis Kata

      Being a nun or a priest is a choice.

      Wearing the hijab is pressured on the young girls by the families and their subculture. >> Try to go out without it and you may get slapped around.
      To be a member of the subculture they have to conform. If they do not confirm, they risk becoming outcasts, they get punished. Honor killings happen because some young girls revolted against the religious/cultural oppression.
      ,
      You are taking sides with the cultural oppression of women. It’s done by a subculture, but it’s still a cultural oppression.

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Have you ever talk to myslim woman? Have you ever travel to middle east countries? Probably not. Try to have conversation!

  71. avatar
    Vicky Smyth

    Absolutely not! Not only are they doing nothing wrong – it’s ‘Sun Safe’!
    I don’t want to live in a world where I society tells me what I can and can’t wear

  72. avatar
    Todor Dzhambazov

    Yes but only the ninja face mask. People should know who are they dealing with. Is it man or a woman, wanted criminal or terrorist…

  73. avatar
    Vicente Silva Tavares

    Torben Stiene, I studied Arab and Islamic Culture at the University, since then I have been following the Islamic world. I read the Qur’an and consult it now and then. Now where did you get your skills in Islamic studies? May be you are also a fascist and admire their capacity of beating their wives. Or stone them to death when you are sick of them. Or may be you, deep inside are a pedophile and would follow them having sex with little children. Ayatohlla Khomeini says you can have sex even with breast feeding babies. Is that what you want, sick young man?

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Which university is that? Don’t tell me Trump university.😳😳😳

  74. avatar
    Kianglek Tan

    It shouldn’t be banned, but be defined as a choice of clothing for personal reasons. Eventually, the burkini would lose its hype to be just another piece of fabric.

    • avatar
      Siniša Bundalo

      Pod uslovom da se žena odgaja kao slobodno ljudsko biće, potpuno jednako muškarcima, a ne kao neko ko mora da bude pokoran i sluša bez pogovora oca, brata, muža…

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Siniša Bundalo is there any woman that you know that really raise like that?

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Siniša Bundalo my experience is man listen to woman more! More than double by the way!

  75. avatar
    Constantinos Orphanos

    George Dimopoulos Eleni Panagakou Anastasia Qka διοτι χρηζει συζητησης #μαλιστα Alexandros VlachosMyrto Tapeinou

  76. avatar
    Dan Florin

    In Europe, it should be applied the same measures Saudi Arabia takes against european liberties… So, Yes! Bann burkini in public places for those who are willing to live in Europe. But not for the tourists. And give power to police to check whether a woman is or is not a european citizen.

  77. avatar
    Yannick Cornet

    No. It should be enforced on anyone too ugly to wear a speedo. Sorry what kind of nonsense question is this anyway? How about talking about real issues eg how to actually deal with the inevitable surge in displaced people from climate impacts, and how to keep humanistic values alive in such context?

    • avatar
      Manuela Bartoli

      So everybody (male expecially) would not consider the woman’s body something to hide and get used to see exposed parts. It may help in avoiding rapes of western women (you know blood boils in someone not used to see a piece of skin). Regards

  78. avatar
    Thomas Beavitt

    Whatever will this clickbait page ask next: Should “we” round up all male Muslims between the ages of 18 and 65 and put them in internment camps? No point in pussyfooting around the issue!

  79. avatar
    Noelle Grammelis

    I think that people don’t want to see a backward trend , I don’t won’t to see it become a general trend and then being made to wear it! In some areas women are being attacked for wearing shorts or short dresses (in France or England), So while I agree that it might be liberating for some women for others it might be the contrary, please ensure my (or other women’s) future freedom of wearing what I like , of being safe on the underground, having said that I’m not really fussed , just protect women’s rights in the future!

    • avatar
      Mirko Celii

      if everyone was free it would be correct, but are they wearing that because of their own decision or because of father/husband decision?

    • avatar
      Imanuel d'Anjou

      Who cares? It’s not relevant to the matter at hand

    • avatar
      Любомир Иванчев

      We have no way of knowing this and it’s none of our business unless the girl/woman is a victim of domestic abuse. Making your daughter wear or not wear certain clothing does not automatically mean you’re abusing her and she’s a victim. For example, you probably wouldn’t be OK for your teenage daughter to go out dressed like a pornstar, would you?

    • avatar
      Любомир Иванчев

      Slaves? Who is a slave? We are talking about Europe, not Saudi Arabia! These women are free to leave their husbands or fathers any time they want!

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

    • avatar
      Pan Sol

      so i thing, if the choice is ware it and keep her head, or take it and left without head

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Actually you are wrong,

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Pan Sol in western democracies there is no risk of losing their head.

    • avatar
      Pan Sol

      in UK there are 5 sharia courts, imagine in rest of europe where are majority

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Wow so UK do be heard people?

    • avatar
      Pan Sol

      Democracy and sharia are not compatible

    • avatar
      Nuno Oliveira

      Equality isn’t imitating laws that bypass individual freedom

    • avatar
      Maricela Potoc

      We have to push for more rights for us in their countries too. Otherwise they will always consider us as fools.

    • avatar
      Nuno Oliveira

      They will consider us fools if, like them, we start making laws abojt what people wear

    • avatar
      Maricela Potoc

      They hate bikini, we hate burkini. If we don’t get to an agreement on this to get equal rights, then we recognize that their culture is superior to ours, so it’s ok for them to display their culture on our land, but we should hide hours when we go to their land, offering them the respect that we don’t consider we deserve from them in our own countries.

    • avatar
      Nuno Oliveira

      What I hate is when people tell women what or not to wear

    • avatar
      Maricela Potoc

      Nuno Oliveira I hate that too. But in their case, probably many muslim women would prefer to wear bikini instead of burkini if they were free. By allowing these men to dictate their women to cover their bodies even on our land, to me it seems wrong. Many muslim women say that they are happy to dress the way they do, but which are their options really? We need to give them options.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Maricela Potoc bikinis are allowed in most Muslim majority countries.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Maricela Potoc
      For your information

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      The burkini is not related to religion.

      It’s a bathing costume worn by women of ALL faiths and beliefs.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

  80. avatar
    Erika Belair

    No,it is the only little bit of freedom that allows muslim women to go to the beach.No ,I am not a muslim

  81. avatar
    Annamaria Potamiti

    No. I think the burkini is ridiculous , but people should be free to wear ridiculous things if they want to. That is what democracy is about. Freedom of speech, freedom of dress, freedom of love, freedom of religion, freedom.

    • avatar
      Ve Ri

      Haha 😂 tolerating and allowing the oppression of others 😂😂 right here with us, in our free countries, where we are all allowed to experience the absolutely free and self-determined life.
      This is exactly the european missunderstanding of “freedom”, “tolerance” and “democracy”…

    • avatar
      Annamaria Potamiti

      Ve Ri, I am not tolerating the oppression of others, that is nonsense, but these women have to make their own choices, you cannot force someone into freedom . Didn’t we learn enough from the wars between Catholics and Protestants?

    • avatar
      Ve Ri

      Of course you do!!!!!? … 😳😳😳 burkini, burka,… these are nothing more than the ultimate (!!!) oppression of women. Honestly, how blinded can some persons be in their wish to absolutely tolerate everything – which is fine!!!! – but not if it’s tolerating the absolute intolerance.
      And it should also NOT be that hard to understand that of course it is NOT your own choice or wish if you grew up experiencing all these women-oppressing attitudes and rules!!!

    • avatar
      Bernhard Leyendeckers

      free to wear?, ridiculous!!! To say that is completely ridiculous, they have to, because they not Allowed to get in the water with out them. Two thirds of our planet is covered with water and they not allowed to get into, without to wear that ridiculous Piece of clothing. And how the fuck you are anyway, to tell a other human being what he have to do or thinking anyway! You are coming from the stone age and still in it, mankind is living in the 21 century now, So, let yourself die out and leave us, the rest alone, we don’t need you here!

    • avatar
      Ve Ri

      That we even need to discuss!! this – especially in our world today!!! In the 21st century (not just the two of us) – is … is unbelievable

    • avatar
      Annamaria Potamiti

      Ve Ri, it is a case of choosing your battles wisely. As long as there is no cutting up of innocent children’s body parts in the name of an imaginary friend, and as long as there is no sneaking in of Sharia Law that has no place in a secular democracy, we are talking about a silly piece of cloth! Who cares what people wear, we have had some pretty silly fashions in the West too. I don’t care if people are nudists or choose to hide under a body suit. I actually would love to see both in a beach coexisting happily. Fight for the important battles, a secular society, respect for secular law, and humanitarian values that have no reference to any imaginary friend in the sky.

    • avatar
      Ve Ri

      *facepalm nothing more to add to your comment… try to reread and rethink. Not seeing the !whole! thing is not enough.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Ve Ri the burkini is the opposite of oppression.

      It’s ironic you mention ” free self determined life” while arguing in favor of oppression of women’s choice to wear what they chose to wear.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Ve Ri for your information and further education.

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

  82. avatar
    Christofer Catilan

    Definitely YES! When there are mandatory burkini rules in some countries and women are punished when they break against these rules then burkini represents the flagrant and selective oppression of women’s rights. We shall not even indirectly give any moral support to these regimes and their medieval practices.

    • avatar
      Kismat Khan

      Hmm, which countries is it mandatory to wear burkini? 😅

  83. avatar
    Nele Abels

    It is much more important to do something against the fundamentalist groups in and around many mosques in Europe.

    • avatar
      Ve Ri

      Nothing else but this!

    • avatar
      Bram Brandhoff

      and forcing women that want to wear it into other types of swim-wear isn’t?
      This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
      Women (and everybody, for that matter) should be free to wear whatever they bloody well like. including the Burkini, a full set of biking gear, medieval armour, or perhaps even such shamefull clothes as a t-shirt and blue jeans.

    • avatar
      Andrea Scacchi

      What are you saying islam do not discriminate women! They can even speak if their man allows them to.
      Women who defends islams, and shame on the western culture (who at the end is moving towards ending sex discriminations)are silly

  84. avatar
    Taline Babikian Angelidou

    If we went to live in one of the conservative Islamic nations..we will be asked to follow the rules there…so why not dress normally in the west when they relocate? I understand it is tradition or tradition crossed with religeous control which is mainly to give male gender supreme power..this is when religeon is twisted to suit the leader..instead of educating…and improving social issues…certain religeous figures…make it worse…

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      Unlike in conservative Islamic countries we have freedom in Europe for people to wear what they want to.

    • avatar
      Taline Babikian Angelidou

      It is relative what you mean by “freedom.in Europe”…and clothingwise…some are obliged to wear and some are not…and still it comes down of conservativevthe gamily is and how attached they are to traditions and rules, do bare in mind, most Islamic nations were very much progressed until Western policies interfered and brought down kings and governments…and religeous leaders took over…therevaresimple yet complex issues that they need to come to terms and improve their way of thought…that is a big challenge cause each country has a bit different tradition or habits..and you need to take into consideration that Islam has its sectors too like Christianity has..too many details to look into

  85. avatar
    JD Blaha

    Last summer this was the number one issue of every racist, xenophobe and islamophobe – this year no one summer no one cares.

    This proves these people are just haters looking for the next group to hate. We should not allow Europe to be defined by these people.

  86. avatar
    Andrea Scacchi

    I think the right question is:
    “Is Islam compatible with democracy?”
    The answer is no, in my opinion.

    Real muslims, like all monotheistic people, despise freedom and temporal power. Christians and jews were born and developed alongside established state (merely Rome) so they grew up dealing with it.
    Muslims never had to understand the difference beetwen state and religion. And they never will.
    (Yeah there was an historical period in which islamic society developed great science and blah blahbut after that they stopped. For very well know doctrinal preaching of one guy blah blah blah.. read a book, i’m not here to spoonfeed you)
    The problem is:
    Integration is not the issue. Integration IS NOT working.
    Let them in, in greater and greater numbers. Let our politicians bend our costumes and laws to allow theirs. Let so called lefwings preach about the importance of integration.
    Integration is failing all over europe.
    We can’t integrate all muslims, because the majority of THEM don’t want to follow democracy and freedom.
    Wait for no more than a generation and Eu will becoming Eurabia. No more freedom of speech, no more freedom of religion or lack of it. We are going backwards on these issues.

    And anyone who dare to point at the problem is either called “populist” or a “racist” (Fuck you ignorants).

  87. avatar
    Daniel Martinez

    I think human stupidity should be banned…. That includes fanatism and all the things related with it, such as burkini.

  88. avatar
    Kris Pulmanns

    No. It should however not be encouraged – one can be against the repression of women and be for freedom of religion.

  89. avatar
    Gabriella Rustici

    Ognuno ha diritto di vestirsi come vuole,dunque le donne non devono sentirsi obbligate né al bikini né al burkini

  90. avatar
    Marko Martinović

    Clothes are not the problem. Problem is a culture that would kill their female children if showing hair. Clothes like this is banned because adressing the real issue is not pc

  91. avatar
    Erna Reemers

    No the most burkinis look like a surfing suite, then it is also not allowed to wear protecting suits while surfing at sea….it is something else as it is be worned at indoor swimming pool due hygienic matters, but outside at sea it is no problem, as i said it looks like a surfers suit and it is mot oppresdive to these women

  92. avatar
    Maria João Feio

    Sim… lá temos que andar como elas cá elas têm que andar comi nós… É o chamado respeito mútuo

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      Just because Saudi Arabia is an oppressive state where the government tells people what they may not wear, doesn’t mean that we in Europe should.

  93. avatar
    Faddi Zsolt

    It should be banned to force them to wear burka, but if they want to wear it, they should have the choice!

  94. avatar
    Michael Hales

    Of course NOT. If I want to go into the sea in my T-shirt and jeans or in a kaftan and fruity hat, why shouldn’t I? How much interference do we need? Leave people alone!

  95. avatar
    Goran Penic

    If you can see the whole face then NO. But if the face is covered even partially then YES it should be banned

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      In one word lets keep the racism and xenophobia !

    • avatar
      Max Berre

      If you don’t like freedoms and foreign influence, you’re free to leave the union, pay back all the tax money, and re-establish the wall.

    • avatar
      Aleksandrs Frederiks Znovs

      Paulo Granadeiro In one word do you even understand the definition of “racism” or “xenophobia” – it seems not. By the way, do you have a secondary school degree? :)

    • avatar
      Aleksandrs Frederiks Znovs

      Max Berre Sorry, my small friend, Europe is my home and I love the multiculturalism of European origin folks – it is amazing, but I do not see the way, how something which is totally strange have to invade this perfectly fitted way of life with so many different cultures inside Europe. The freedom is to feel free and enjoy the way of life in your home, but not the way of life coming from other places of planet. So, if you do not wish to feel like in your home and wish to get something new, what doesn’t belong to Europe, please feel free “to leave the union, pay back all the tax money, and re-establish the wall” in your mind.

    • avatar
      Aleksandrs Frederiks Znovs

      Pankaj Kathait Ah, sorry, I see, you meant British invasion to India… Okay. Please ask this question to Great Britain, not to me and not to other countries and folks of Europe, who didn’t done anything wrong to others for their whole history or at least for the main part of it. People in India also have fighting against British Empire to protect their homeland from invasion and to get Britons away. Same way we are trying to protect us from invaders (in cultural meaning) and it is our rights – rights of my country (Latvia), my folk and me personally. So please be so kind and don’t tell me this bullsh*t that I have to accept it only because someone from Germany, UK, France and other countries somewhen did anything bad to your folk. I didn’t support it and I don’t, by the way.

  96. avatar
    Larry Moffett

    Yes! Let’s defend women’s freedom by telling them what they can or cannot wear. And why should Muslim women enjoy lower rates of melanoma than the rest of us?

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      You said nothing. Be frontal and speak out what you think, if you don’t want to elaborate, just say a Yes or No !!!

    • avatar
      Max Berre

      Some people like freedoms. Others don’t.

    • avatar
      Elie Awake

      Paulo Granadeiro i did say it all but i will elaborate as u request : Again the problem is the ideology behind all this whatever it is (burka,Burkini,jellaba,terrorism ,polygamy,child mariage,hate teaching ) .so in simple words i would not care what kind of swimsuit girls wear if there is no ideology behind it

  97. avatar
    Sárdi Csaba

    If those women want to wear it than why should anyone tell them not to..it’s fucking embarrassing having this topic even taken seriously. If I want to wear agricultural shoes and a furry hat whose has the permission to tell me not to wear it in my free time??

  98. avatar
    Gururaj Bhat

    All human beings be treated equally .there must be no disparity in gender .if make demands burqua for female then female also demand make should wear burqua or else there is no meaning in burqua clad .

    • avatar
      Max Berre

      So you want OUR freedoms in the west to be contingent on internal freedoms in saudi barbaria?!

    • avatar
      Jason Picci

      Perhaps reciprocity is not the answer then, removing the current state of [religious] divisiveness would take away the adrenalin factor.

  99. avatar
    Maira Dunglin

    Yes because it’s not a matter of choice. It offends me as a woman even when I look at it.

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      So you are more important than another woman who freely choose to be dress on the beach !

      Tomorrow you will forbid the handy capt people to be in public places because it offended you as woman without any handy capacity !

      The name for your behaviour is xenophobia.

    • avatar
      Maira Dunglin

      Paulo Granadeiro these women are brainwashed since birth an I feel sorry for them. Not for you though. This has nothing to do with handicaped people. If I visit these women’s countries they force upon me their dress code.
      Human rights are universal. Opression on human rights cannot be justified by culture.

    • avatar
      Max Berre

      Ever actually ASK what they think about it?

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      The vast majority of them choose to wear what they do. In that way their choice of clothes is influenced by their culture, which is exactly the same as with the rest of us. I’ve seen British and Irish people shocked by how Germans and French people would swim or sunbathe naked at the beach and lakes. Do those people need to be forcibly liberated from their conservative brainwashing?

    • avatar
      Maira Dunglin

      There is a core of human rights which is common to every human being and no cultural or religious beliefs can be an excuse to violate them.
      I am sure you would agree with me in the case of women being stoned to death legally or legally raped, invoking culture or religion.

  100. avatar
    Risto Kantonen

    Yes. Allowing it is sharia compliance and submission to a doctrine that promotes a hostile culture. In fact, as long as any element of the hybrid threat known as Islam is present in Europe, we will continue to have serious problems.

    • avatar
      Max Berre

      Isn’t that how the Russians felt about Finnish culture back in the day?

    • avatar
      Risto Kantonen

      False equivalence, finnish culture does not want to convert or kill anyone non finnish. Whereas Islam commands its followers to fight the unbelievers – that is anyone that isn’t a follower of Islam – until all the unbelievers either submit and become dhimmis and pay protection money known as jizya not to be killed, or until they convert to Islam, or until all nonbelievers are killed.

      You’re being apologetic about something you clearly do not understand. Read the trilogy of texts that together form the doctrine of Islam:

      1) https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/muhammad/Guillaume–Life%20of%20Muhammad.pdf
      2) https://quran.com/
      3) https://sunnah.com/

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      Irrelevant. Few Muslims behave as if their religion tells them to kill or conquer. It is no more relevant to the debate than parts of the Bible which contain similar commands.
      There are issues for sure, with integration of Muslim migrants in Europe. But by defining them as irredeemably hostile as a culture, you’re not helping us to move forward at all.

  101. avatar
    Luca Kulikov

    Debating Europe!!! Should Politicians be banned!!! hmm please place your vote below ☝️

  102. avatar
    Tadas Gyvas Tikras

    If they can force to remove metal detectors from a mosque there, than we can for sure force them to wear no burkinis here.

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      Don’t be ignorant – check the facts and your statement.

    • avatar
      Max Berre

      So you are one of those who wants to make OUR freedoms dependent on THEIR internal policy?

      Why such a weak commitment to freedom?

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      How is this even an argument?

  103. avatar
    Niels Svendsen

    Never ever! This is just as idiotic as banning black suits for bankers.
    If the state shall determine what to wear, then are we close to a totalitarian state – in my opinion.

  104. avatar
    Yanis Sarto

    I’m against bans but I’m even more against the burkini and the conservatism it represents. It should be basically be pointed out through debates how ridiculous this is instead of using laws to stop women from wearing it

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      Ridiculous is a relative classification so… who can say what is rediculous to all ? Donwe have a forced common values ? Interesting…

    • avatar
      Yanis Sarto

      That’s an even more interesting debate. What are values in final analysis . But I would say that covering up is not so much a problem as it’s the mentality that accompanies it on many issues .Religious freedom is important ofcourse but isn’t all these pieces of clothing ending up separating us in little boxes and dividing us ?

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      I agree. If people want to see fewer women wearing burkas, use free speech to make a point, not the force of the state.

  105. avatar
    Mavroylia Lia

    People in Europe if they choose to be naked , they can be naked if they choose to wear a swimming suit , they wear a swimming suit. What changes if they want to wear a burkini!

    • avatar
      Ardy Waldon Fragola

      there are no ‘laws’ about what you can or cannot wear o the besach to swim!!!!

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      What is the law that forbid burkini and where (country) ?

  106. avatar
    Paulo Granadeiro

    If made in material that doesn’t aggravate the danger of drawing, and let the face uncover, I can’t see any reason to forbid it unless preconception.

    • avatar
      Paulo Granadeiro

      This scum as you call them, have members in which the people chose to be prime minister of Portugal, mayor of London and others prominent citizens in all countries.

      Are you forgeting the red necks of US/AUSTRALIA and the low lifes of so many countries in Europe ?

    • avatar
      Amphib Ian

      That’s a disgusting thing to say. You could be a Nazi referring to Jews with a statement like that.

  107. avatar
    Alma Yael

    to what extent does a cultural expression affect the moral standards of a modern society? if we see children banned to attend the swimming pool, or covered in a hot summer day, are we supposed to act against those values or should we just wait until the different cultures adopt the hosting country standards? I don’t see a risk in the short term, but creating social guetos means breaking the society into second and first class citizens.

  108. avatar
    Balaban Bogdan

    Yes ! It is not ok to rise and encourage the extreme gesture of religios people. You can be decent without being completely covered and promothing that women body is the gate to hell .

  109. avatar
    Anssi Ileuma Eboreime

    I have a general problem with laws which dictate what people are allowed to wear. Next we’ll have thought police going around telling us what to think.

  110. avatar
    Chryssa Chronakis

    Should we make everybody who looks different disappear? Easy yes? Wtf about human rights and crap? You let dogs have rights swim who are you to tell how the people go to swim in decency?

    • avatar
      Joe Grixti

      What is Decency, what’s wrong if I swime Naked.

    • avatar
      Chryssa Chronakis

      Joe Grixti there are beaches for people who enjoy nude.decency look it up pal

  111. avatar
    Joe Grixti

    YES..if they want to practice thier. Islam they should go Home…They need Europe. EUROPE don’t need them…

  112. avatar
    Maria Bierens

    Let’s call things by by its rightful name and stop being such hypocrites. In other words; this isn’t about clothing.

  113. avatar
    Mataroa Dida

    Yes. Cause is not about ones choice to wear whatever he/ she wants. Is obligated by religion. So YES, ban now!

  114. avatar
    Ed Cocks

    I have no problem with the burkini, the burkha though should be banned.

  115. avatar
    Louis Jeffs

    If I want to wear a burka on a whim, no man or the horse he rode in on should be able to stop me.

  116. avatar
    Paula Pinto

    Penso que para proteger a moral e os bons costumes do homem muçulmano, ele é que devia evitar ou até ser proibido de ir à praia ou piscina. Como não conseguem controlar os seus instintos básicos, seria o melhor para eles. Aqueles que já estão mais evoluídos poderiam acompanhar as suas esposas e familiares de igual modo como os restantes. De calções e biquínis.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      What a lame statement.

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

  117. avatar
    Nawid Zabihi

    No

    Because you Can Wear whatever you Want to wear.

    I dont Care which country it is.

    Not everone are opressed from parents, or religion.

    Most have chosen it

  118. avatar
    Juana Bee

    What a ridiculous question . Haven’t we got better (or worse) things to worry about?

  119. avatar
    Daniel Mozis

    You can not bann burkini prior to banning religions. Ideally banning religions with a magic stick would solve lots of conflicts and wars, but it would at the same time destroy freedom. So NO, may Europe take care of realistic and more important questions.

  120. avatar
    Golam Kibria

    Should respect to opinion, preference, and moral values of others. It’s human rights to fulfill and practice own belief..

  121. avatar
    Ana Abade Gil

    This isnt just a choice about fashion. It is about letting muslim people treat women as inferior beings. We should not tolerate that. If they are too closed minded to “allow” women with a bikini or swimsuit, they can just stay AT home. We shouldn’t allow the institutionalisation of such gender violence.

  122. avatar
    Sabin Popescu

    The burkini should not be banned, but people should not be forced to treat women to wear it the same way they treat women who wear a bikini

  123. avatar
    Hugo Dias

    I only think that any kind of clothing that covers the face should be banned from the Europe. The other kinds, I compare them like the nuns, priest and monks habits. If we’re going to ban ones, we need to ban all.

  124. avatar
    Vera Cardoso

    Why this story again? Should we ban diver’s wetsuits? Nuns at the beach? Me wearing my long dresses and headscarves close to the sea? What about those asian ladies who don’t want to get tanned and think that the burkini is the best idea ever to keep their skin fair during the summer?

    Why would anyone be forced to undress in a place where there is no legal dresscode?

    • avatar
      Jozef Kersic

      If there’s no written legislation about dress code, that doesn’t mean there’s none…
      Europe culture is well known, respect it, if you want to be respected…

    • avatar
      Vera Cardoso

      Catholic nuns are part of european culture… And so is WEARING WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT, because we still live in democracies

      Dress code for the beach… “Beach”, please…

    • avatar
      Jean-Timour Meunier

      because it carries infections due to the large volume of textile implied which can be dirty IN France , event short trousers are banned for this reasons ( but you have to wear a small head cover , male or female )

  125. avatar
    José Coelho Virgílio

    Nada tem a ver com os preceitos originais do Corão, sendo um símbolo de uma facção castrante e autocrática, no seio do mundo islâmico. Neste caso específico até considero que é o chamado “acoutrement riidicule”. Mas cada um veste-se como quer, desde que não viole as regras sociais fundamentais, o que aqui não sucede

  126. avatar
    Agne Albrechtaite

    Everyone has the right to choose theyr clothes! I may be an atheist, but love to cover my body by the watter, so i would not get sun burned.

  127. avatar
    Zsolt Barczy

    What an intolerant question… of course one shouldn’t ban anything that is in fact more moral and ethical than the rest. Banning nudity to preserve order, dignity and decency in a society is the mirror question. It’s probably obvious to all which one of the two is more reasonable to ban, but the best is not too ban anything and let society churn out the result by itself. A naked body disturbs kids more than a properly dressed one, I suppose… Peace

    • avatar
      Sari Bruno

      A naked body disturbs more than a dressed one? Yes, it might be so in our society in which the nudity is considered unnatural publicly, but it doesn´t seem to be so, for example, in many places in Africa. So, this is question of habits and culture (climates makes the difference, too).

    • avatar
      João Ribeiro

      Estamos na Europa e não nas arábias, Antonio Anastasi se estás a favor do burkini ou da burka sai, vai viver para as arábias.

  128. avatar
    Antonio Anastasi

    Why? People have short memories:

    The genesis of the idea for the Burkini came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

    The burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also by hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      You may want to know that:

      The genesis of the idea for the need of a burkini came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

  129. avatar
    Sérgio Santos

    Why? Than you have to forbid surfing wet suits too!! One thing it’s to forbid the burqa, because you can’t see a person’s face, and it might raise security issues, but the hijab, or the burkini, it’s just plain dumb to forbid it. You’ll be as much a tyrant as the ones who want them to use it.

  130. avatar
    António Coelho

    burkini is a symbol of a religion based on everything other than love and respect, so, yes, we should ban burkinis and the islam …for good

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      I am once more posting this because it’s obvious you missed the previous posts.

      People have short memories:

      1) the highest courts in France ruled on various occasions that the burkini ban instituted last year on some French municipalities was unconstitutional.

      2) the burkini did not evolve from male/patriarch mentality nor did it come from Muslims.

      The genesis of the idea came from the Australian Surf Rescue who approached a Female Muslim sports cloths designer to come up with a costume to allow Muslim women to participate as volunteers with the Australian Surf Rescue.

      3) the burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

  131. avatar
    Viorika Motoi

    Dejenos a los europeos con nuestra vida y con los derechos adquiridos y a los musulmanes que luche y que consigue sus derechos si los quiere!

  132. avatar
    jakov

    Burkini isnt problem in Europe, problem is that so many islamist extremists arrived in Europe, and that is what we have to ban. We have to send them back where they came from, all of them. Then we will not waste our time on stupid debates like this one.

  133. avatar
    Tina Natuzori

    The beach, the pool in TODAY’S society at large has a fashionable dress code for ‘bathing beauties’. And *that* certainly is not it!
    I don’t see men being ALL covered up -and not only when splashing in the water and swimming- in the HOT SUMMER WEATHER.
    Ban it.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Burkini are fashionable and also designed by top French and Italian designers like Dolce&Gabbana.

      I dress my child in a full body bathing suit when we go to the beach to protect him from the effects, the lethal effects of the sun, so why should women be stopped from wearing a burkini, when it’s the ideal dress for the beach.

      The burkini is not only used by Muslim women but also hundreds of western non Muslim women who wear it for various reasons; to cover post op scares or skin blemishes, to protect from the sun especially by fair skinned women, by women who may feel embarrassed by their bodies, to mention a few.

    • avatar
      Claudiu Romanescu

      Security issues. I mean, an armed man could be under that dress.

  134. avatar
    Pen Lister

    of course not. ridiculous. ban fat pot bellied white blokes, they are offensive! ban angry right wing nut jobs telling us what to do! ban goth heavy metal freaks, theyre just eew! definitely ban people who want to ban things! in fact ban summer, that would be great.

  135. avatar
    Sam Kostoulias

    If it wasnt from a oppressive religious lot I wouldn’t mind.
    Simply it is a advertisement for oppression.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      To make your coo ent implies that you think that Islam is a homogenous group.

      It’s not. The apart that Islam is made up of various denominations, the practice of Islam is as diverse as the cultures it represents.

      As for oppression, where women are concerned, many Muslim majority have a higher parliamentary representation than many other countries including the USA.

  136. avatar
    Sari Bruno

    No. Everybody has the right to dress as they wish. The burqa is different question. The burqa impedes to see the face of the person next to you, which is a security risk, and after all, the burqa is just cultural phenomenon, not religious as the experts of islam confirm.

  137. avatar
    Σταμάτης Πουλημένος

    You can not bann he way that someone condact the world.If a woman of muslim origin can’t wear what she’s comfortible going around,in fact you diprive her the right of access to the sea-not a reasonble and a european way alltogether

  138. avatar
    Xaris Kokkinos

    I think it should be banned.
    And the basis for my opinion is that it discourages the process of assimilation. That is, a Muslim woman who does NOT want to wear the suit could be forced to by her family because there are no laws protecting against such situations.

    And for the women who do want to wear the suit but would be prohibited by law, I ask this: What is the reason for living in Europe and not in more puritan societies? Isn’t it because you like the western culture and its ways? If you are unwilling to assimilate whatsoever, why bother going/ staying in Europe?

    Also, let’s have an analogy; Some Amazonian tribes’ traditional clothing covers nothing but the genitals. If members of the same tribe decided to move to France, for instance, would it be deemed acceptable for them to be walking barely clothed in the streets?

  139. avatar
    Arnout Posthumus

    ofcourse not. There is no valid reason to do so, just : I THINK ITS UGLY. Which is as simple as saying I dont like brocoli.

    Its retarded that we want to see more skin as westeners and that a woman cant even chose to not do so.

    • avatar
      Antonio Anastasi

      Arnout Posthumus if you are referring to the Burkini no it’s not but, ditto fit the video, but I think that some of the arguments brought up in the video apply to burkini and burqa.

  140. avatar
    Ha Enn

    Ach, who cares? In the early 20th century, men and women in Europe wore swimming suits that fully covered their thighs and torso, and nobody made a fuzz. However, having seen it in action, let me just tell you that the burkini is wholly unsuited to cover up whatever modesty, as the wet clothing clings to the body and simply accentuates its outline. If you are serious about beachground modesty, please consider a standard diving dress.(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Gradbi%C5%A1%C4%8De_hidroelektrarne_O%C5%BEbalt_1958%2C_potaplja%C4%8D.jpg).

    • avatar
      Max

      In North Korea, there is a law that adult men are allowed a maximum hair-length of 2cm. Unless they are balding, in which case they are allowed 4cm.

      PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION ARE SEVERE.

      I’m not interested in living having THE STATE tell us all how to think, feel, and dress.

      Not sure what exactly you have against freedom, Commissar Wening.

  141. avatar
    Andrea

    They are the religious idiots who wears black sintetic dress under the sun.
    Should i care? as long as they are identificable there no problem

    • avatar
      Ivan

      Asuman Its a poll that show 30% of Muslims in France agree will killing innocent European women & Children in the name of Islam, which is probably why your government censors it.

    • avatar
      Ivan

      Asuman If your government is censoring your news clearly you are not free.

    • avatar
      Ivan

      Asuman How are you free when your government decides what you can and cannot know ?

    • avatar
      Asuman

      Ivan Türkiye’ye turist olarak gelin,gezin,görün cok beğeneceksiniz.Türk kebap,baklava,lokum,börek,denizi,kumu,gölleri,peri bacalari,Camiler,Kiliseler ,Havralar i hep bir arada kültür zenginliğimize hayran kalirsiniz

      Ivan, come to turkey as a tourist, travel, you’ll love it. Turkish kebab, Baklava, marshmallow, fritters, sea, sand, lakes, fairy chimneys, mosques, churches, synagogues I always admire the culture of culture

    • avatar
      Asuman

      Ivan,,,Çok sabit fikirlere sahipsin,,,tek tarafli bakiyorsun Dünya’ya.Bu Dünya hepimizin
      Ivan,,, you have very hard ideas,,, you’re looking at the world. This world is all of us

    • avatar
      Asuman

      Bu Burka degil Haşema, Diger adi Mayo.
      This is not a burka, it’s miraclesuits, it’s the other name swimsuit.

  142. avatar
    Jack

    Why? Europe stands for freedom, as long as an action doesn’t compromised freedom of others it is totally acceptable. Period.

    • avatar
      Ivan

      Will you think the same when the ideology behind the burka is applied to parts of your life ?

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      Jack

      First of all is a religion and not an ideology, second the only religion that has been applied during all my life has been an unwanted Catholicism, third i just said that anybody’s freedom ends where starts the one of someone else. The burka is just a dress, anybody can wear it one moment and take it of the moment after. That’s freedom.

    • avatar
      Jack

      Ivan
      You are not following…1)We don’t live in a regime of sharia and we will never 2) anybody can profess its own religion but can’t impose it to others. But if you are the one trying to forbid something that really doesn’t harm anybody (wearing a scarf for example) it is you that is wrong. I can see your point on ideology = religion but that is only for institutionalized belivers….people can follow a religion without being that istitutionalized and actually it’s usually the case.

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      Ivan

      Jack We can only hope your attitude of ‘We don’t live in a regime of sharia and we will never’ doesn’t come back to haunt us..

      Because that’s pretty much what they said in Russia 1916 and Germany in 1931. A pit it cost the lives of 200 million people before people woke up to the reality of totalitarian ideology.

      Just like the Socialists of the West that buried their heads in the sand you are just “Useful idiots” of the religion of peace..

      https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/11/france-needs-sharia-law-avoid-civil-war-says-professor/.

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      Asuman

      Ivan you don’t fight radicalism with radicalism. I know plenty of Muslim which will be horrified by thoughts like the kind you attribute to them. Also, in Russia they were living in conditions comparable to the one of sharia from many perspectives and in Germany they were so desperate and fearful just before the rise of hitler that the people listen to radical discourses. Exactly the one you are doing man. We should learn from history and study it not citing it at random just to appear we know what we are talking about. And peace is a much better path than war, a tougher but braver way of living.

  143. avatar
    Max

    Dear Commissar Szilagyi:
    My family risked their lives to escape the iron curtain 30 years ago. Not interested in living having THE STATE tell us all how to think, feel, and dress.

    Sorry.

  144. avatar
    Max

    Big Brother is watching.
    War Is Peace.
    Freedom Is Slavery
    Ignorance Is Strength.

  145. avatar
    Marc

    I find topless, drunk, sunburned gammons on the beach far more offensive.

    • avatar
      Lucy

      So do I, especially those with fat beer bellies….ewwww.

  146. avatar
    Георги

    Who cares? This is BS! Debating this is like debating weather to paint the walls red or blue when the house is on fire. United Europe has much more pressing matters to resolvethan swim suit fashion.

  147. avatar
    Christine

    Why this weird obsession with what women wear?. Who cares what anyone wears

  148. avatar
    Marijus

    It is same as divers suit. Why to ban it?
    So what’s next? We ban to be stupid in public?

  149. avatar
    Franz M

    Why is this even discussed here!?
    And, no there should be no ban.
    It is a personal and religious right to wear whatever you want. A free society must be able to stand above such topics. However, it should be a matter of member states. The EU should tackle social wellfare, research, infrastructure, unemployment, military, foreign policies, economic convergence and mugration (fair asylum system harmonization, exterior border management).

  150. avatar
    Henri

    Families indoctrine childgirls with ideology thats why they -becoming teenagers and women- ashamed to wear normal swimming dress in 40°. It’s not some kind of fashion like jeans or red skirt.

  151. avatar
    Gabe

    No! People should wear whatever they please, this is a free world.
    Or just be naked, cause not wearing what they please is also freedom

  152. avatar
    Aamir

    Why ban don’t you think it’s depend on person what he likes to wear come on

  153. avatar
    jurre

    Yes, by all means: Lets just introduce a fashion police, just like every in Islamist state who enforces women to wear the things we oh so despise. The sheer irony of it would simply be brilliant.

  154. avatar
    Tatjana

    She has the right to wear that, but I have a right not to be staired on the street by guys,mostly muslims coz they havent seen a women in a t-shirt before!

  155. avatar
    Flaviu Amarandei

    I think every ostentatious religios simbol should be banned in the European space, including huge gispsy style croses.

  156. avatar
    Wernher

    As we respect Arab law in their countries they should respect us without

  157. avatar
    Mawdo

    Everyone’s is losers here , are they going to keep it closed as far as these girls coming there with Burkini?

  158. avatar
    Paulo

    absolutly the burkini and the SHARIA

  159. avatar
    Uli

    this should be a matter just of hygiene not of moral. When they are specifically designed for swimming why would anyone care..

  160. avatar
    Joana

    Stop making rules about women body’s and women clothing, if they want to be fully cover it’s OK, if they want to be topless it’s OK!
    Mind your own body and let others mind theirs.

  161. avatar
    Sonya

    I find burkini illogical, I do not know what they hide when you can see every curve of the body. But I am against the ban, as long as the faces are not covered.

  162. avatar
    Любомир

    The state shouldn’t dictate to people how to dress unless they are state employees. Aside from that, a person’s face should be visible in public, unless there are specific reasons for it to be hidden (e.g. the necessity to wear a medical mask in case of sickness, or headgear when riding a motorbike).

  163. avatar
    Pamela

    Yes, if I can’t ware a bikini in Muslim countries they can’t ware burkini in Europe.

  164. avatar
    Michael

    As far as I know, Europe is a free society. But one with a few rules. I am not allowed to walk down the street naked. I have to cover my “undercarriage” and women also have to cover their “uppercarriage”. Now if someone wants to take this a little further, who am I to object? It’s their own business. If I want to go into the sea in a full suit and tie and top hat, so what?. Leave people to get on with their lives!

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      Vincent

      hear hear!

  165. avatar
    Paul

    For a country supposedly built on values of “liberty..fraternity..equality ” France seems obsessed with controlling what people wear. It’s no business of the state to interfere with how people dress except in very specific instances….eg passport checks..witness at courts etc…these can be managed appropriately.

  166. avatar
    Elle

    Why, what’s the difference between what that lady has on to someone wearing a diving or surfing suit? Ban diving and surfing suits too then.

  167. avatar
    John

    People who ‘have to’ wear it should be banned…

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      James

      Great so not only can they not dress freely they’re also not allowed to swim.

    • avatar
      John

      It has nothing to do with a dress code.. It’s about convictions and beliefs that have no place in Europe.

    • avatar
      James

      Can we also ban the millions of neo-nazis and white supremacists then?

  168. avatar
    Mario

    It’s an hard question. Maybe we must have an higher religious and cultural tolerance.

  169. avatar
    Maria

    If they want to wear burkini, then go to Iran or Saudi Arabia

    • avatar
      James

      Great use of logic there

    • avatar
      Riccardo

      I thought nations and religions were two different things

    • avatar
      Maria

      this has nothing to do with religion. This is all about a Dictatorship. Off course leftists dont understand, what I mean

  170. avatar
    Gotthard

    I agree. If she wants to wear a burkini she should go back to her country of origin. If she wants tp stay in France she has to integrate, not other way round

    • avatar
      James

      And for those born in France?

    • avatar
      Gotthard

      those born in France should integrate into French culture. Now they wear a burkini, the next thing you know they will be frowning on somone who wears a 👙 bikini. Anway there are billions of muslims in the world, I dont think they’re reproducing with their clothes on. They just want to impose their way on others, even more in most cases it’s not even their country of origin. Ps. Being born in France does not automatically make it your county of origin !

    • avatar
      Riccardo

      French culture? Maybe you need to read some Voltaire, study some history… you know, “religious tolerance” is a concept developed during the enlightenment… 😂 You ignorant

    • avatar
      Gotthard

      once you get ruled over, very soon. You will have to be very tolerant, don’t worry.

    • avatar
      Gotthard

      how about reading ‘The Protestant Ethic and spirit of Capialism’, by Max Weber. Maybe you’ll enlighten your self..

    • avatar
      James

      god forbid someone might frown at someone else in a free and open society

    • avatar
      James

      Rights for whites eh?

    • avatar
      Gotthard

      very cynical of you but soon they will be regulating YOUR dress in your OWN Country !

    • avatar
      John

      We should..

  171. avatar
    Panayiotis

    people should wear nothing declare their religion

  172. avatar
    Olivier

    Yes for hygienic reason. I have been obliged to buy a new swimming costume because mine was a non regular boxer. Why does EU creates a lot of norms of which Muslims are excluded to follow. Why the law is applied to white Europeans and not to non European Muslims…. Tell me please. Is EU backing discrimination?

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      Michael

      it’s not so.much the swimming costumes that are unhygienic as what they cover.

    • avatar
      Olivier

      found all the time exception for Muslims lead to communautarist. At the e d we shall have the charia for everybody…

  173. avatar
    Olivier

    Next time I shall go naked to swimming pool

  174. avatar
    Cinzia

    Yes, of course, then we forbid to wear sandals and socks! This offends the values I grew up with!!

    • avatar
      Tim

      it’s Europe, so its European ones. They are the ones importing their culture of submission

    • avatar
      Cinzia

      Is an European thing wear sandals and socks?