Planet Earth Europe zone. Elements of this image furnished by NASAEurope is changing. Its economy is changing under the pressure of new technologies, its society is changing with new social values and with immigration, and its place on the international stage is changing as other countries grow in power.

Over the next two decades, much will depend on how Europe handles this change. In twenty years, will today’s migrant crisis, terror attacks, and economic uncertainty be nothing but a distant memory? Or will we still be mired in crises, as the challenges of globalisation, rising inequality, resource scarcity, and climate change become more acute?

New technology holds great promise for the future, but it also disrupts the status quo, changing society and threatening to leave some behind if they cannot adapt fast enough. Likewise, our societies are changing under the pressures of globalisation, and for some people this change is happening too fast.

 

What would YOU like Europe to look like in 20 years? Do you think Europe can successfully manage its place in a changing world? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below, and we’ll take them to policymakers and experts for their reactions!

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What do YOU think?

    • avatar
      Joao

      It’s scary that people actually want a federalist europe… very scary. Gladly you are a dying minority.

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      George

      United States of Europe finally. Bilingual with a European language taught at school from day one at 5 hours a week. Political leaders from mayors and national parliament representatives trilingual by law. With a common border, with a common army. Without the traditional undermines in the political union. With all public transport fully electric. With renewable energy industries.

    • avatar
      Michael Hales

      Agree

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      John ponder

      Federal!!

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      I agree with Florin as well.

    • avatar
      Joao

      I hope you never get what you want….. Anyway I don’t believe in the existence of the EU for much longer than 5-10 years. Maybe France, Germany and a few other central/nordic countries will be part of it, but at the end it will be very small or simply non existent. I’m hoping for the second option…

    • avatar
      Anonymous

      If only…………….

    • avatar
      rosy

      I would agree with you Matej. I think the EU is very important across a number of dimensions, not least it has held the peace for the first time in Europe since the collapse of the Roman Empire and I think that we can see so many links and connections between us. We certainly should Laws in common that reflect our values and should not be afraid of requiring those that come to respect and obey those laws (i am thinking about domestic violence, arranged marriages, honour killings and genital mutilation), and this needs to much firmer than it is. The Eu is made of countries big and small, west and east, north and south. I think some base-line tax and welfare policies now need to be put in place. Part of the problem (understandably) in the Brexit piece is the UK ‘s very generous welfare and free at the point of access health service. However other countries expect more in put before accessing the health service (residency) in a fuller capacity. Equally spreading the wealth a bit, constantly upward service industry economies do come to a tipping point. So we should take the best from each place for base-line law and rights and welfare. So what the UK and Ireland get right is clear websites on rights and responsibilities and consumer issues (c.f Citizen advice etc.,), a gross income from sole traders and small business prior to VAT registration, Southern Europe and Eastern Europe think about this. What they get wrong is the imbalance between the free market and local needs (c.f. housing, the run on investment in London, regulations regarding who is in or renting a house and how many) so learn from German and Italian bureaucracy. I could go on. Greater in put, participation and fora for EU citizens (so for example the Poles concerned about forestry decimation by its gov and the english also trying safe an important forestry site can lobby together for better protection of natural resources), so yes we can be united with base-line stuff x welfare and tax and vat, learn from each other, respect smaller countries more, so that traffic is not just east to west but vice versa and respecting people and acountries identity and the right to determine other things on local needs. I wonder will anyone listen to us though?

    • avatar
      Vicky

      Do you mean as rich as Saudi Arabia or do you want to insinuate something?

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Where would they get all that sand from?

    • avatar
      Rek

      I think its pretty clear what he insinuates :)

    • avatar
      Luc Sabbe

      I hope you mean as rich as….

  1. avatar
    Anna

    I hope in twenty years the european union has become, willingly or by outside force, a united europe where national states will have a minor saying compared to the common goodwill of the european union.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      ….and who exactly should be empowered to decide what the “common goodwill” is?

    • avatar
      Peter

      The majority of the electorate as in every democracy. Maybe we could have some two chamber system of ~150 senators representing a European region each, and the Parliament with powers comparable to our national parliaments nowadays.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Delusional in any rational approach you want to put it. Where national states will have a MINOR saying?! Worst than we have now? Willingly or by outside force? I’m scared of what this even means…

    • avatar
      Paul X

      The majority of the electorate in the UK rejected the EU, just maybe other countries would do the same if they were ever given the opportunity..or is that where the “outside force” comes into play and dictates to people what common goodwill is?

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      Joao

      Paul X, fortunately several other EU countries are considering referendums or at least discussing the possibility of leaving the union. Brexit was just a first step, many others will join as this union has proven to be as useless (and dangerous) as it was design to be.

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      Ondrej

      To Joao: and how it was provdn worseless? And nothing to say? When the Lisbon treaty was supposed to be signed the president of the Czech Republic refused and it is not signed then (true it was supported by the fact that ireland made referendum and they said no, too) so I guess we have quite powerful saying in that and you do not vote for your leaders – it is the parlament whose makes some decisions and you can vote for that and you vote for you government who nominates your prezident, prime minister or the minister of treasury and they make most of the decisions… So if it does not work as you say – you probably had a wrong choice at the polls – do not blame your problems on the others, please

    • avatar
      Joao

      The only reasonable opinion in this entire comment section..

    • avatar
      George

      It will be valueless English going ever lower.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @George, are you racist towards the English? It seems 50% of your posts I have seen have been anti-English sentiments.

  2. avatar
    nando

    A “net-zero energy” region,
    with very low unemployment,
    a high “happiness rating” and
    no “war engagements”.
    Now let’s get to work on it!

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    Paul X

    A Europe of independent countries whose governments understand that they serve the people not rule over them and that they must govern the country in the best interest of their people rather than multi-national corporations

    But as John Lennon once sang..”people say I’m a dreamer”

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      Peter

      There is nothing like ‘independent’ on a small and densely inhabited territory like the European continent. And that’s to the benefit of most people. Glad, not to live in North Corea.

      So, best way would be souvereign regions of 5 to 10 million people united in a federal Europe. Sadly, that’s also just a dream.

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      Paul X

      Peter I disagree on every count, how does population density have any influence if a country can be governed independently?

      A key work missing in your description of the European continent is “diverse”.. The priorities, aspirations and social attitudes of the people of Greece is far removed from those, for example, in Sweden, and it is this diversity which the EU has consistently proven it is incapable of managing.

      I really fail to understand the logic behind those who think a more federal EU can in any way be better for the people of Europe, the more remote a governing body the less it is aware of the desires of the people, though on reflection, the desires of the people has never been an EU priority anyway

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      Peter

      Paul, for me it’s just the other way round. Where is the logic in small states deciding everything for themselves? That cannot be to the benefit of the people. The EU subsidiarity concept makes much sense but abandoning European cooperation would be very bad for everyone in multiple topics. Simply don’t see the logic behind that. Most problems or let’s say challenges don’t stop at borders. These British discussions on ‘independence’ are quite from another planet – as if there would be no connections.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      The logic is the closer to the people a particular authority/council is the more aware they can be of the issues that concern them. The further away a level of government is the more it’s policies are compromised in an attempt to be acceptable to everyone yet usually satisfy no-one

      Some people claim certain things are done better at a EU level but I’ve yet to hear any suggestion that could not be achieved by co-operation at a national level instead of trying to justify a bloated, profligate, bureaucracy

    • avatar
      Peter

      I see – but that is subsidiarity. You say yourself that there is a need for cooperation above the national level. European Union is just a name for that. Thinking your logic through would mean: If all kinds of problems could be best solved at the lowestmost level – we wouldn’t need a state at all. That would easily exclude several parts of the society from social participation and maybe even survival. Anarchy only serves the strong. So there is a need for cooperation on several levels. Many topics like environmental questions, labour markets, security questions etc aren’t handled very effective if only dealed with on national or regional levels. A European state very much makes sense to me here.

    • avatar
      Joao

      I would love that too. But for that to happen we have to remove the biggest barrier: the European Union itself.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Exactly, subsidiarity is far more effective in delivering what the person on the street actually needs, and of course we need a state, we just don’t need a superstate
      .
      We have two levels of tax raising authority (local and national) why do we need another just for the handful of things it may (or may not) be able to do better, far cheaper and leaner just to have international forums as and when the need arises.

      As for the examples you give (security, labour, and environmental) the EU has been a dismal failure. Security across Europe is a joke, take a look at unemployment rates in Greece and Spain and while it’s environmental policies are noble in intention, their actual benefit to the planet are minimal and the main impact is just increasing costs for EU business

      The problem with the EU is it is continually trying to justify it’s existence by getting involved in areas where it doesn’t need to be while at the same time displaying a total incompetence in the areas it could be of benefit

    • avatar
      Peter

      You think too much in a black and white scheme. Reality is much more colourful.

      Labour market and security problems both had very limited EU approaches yet, and rather national causes. Point for the European level. Environmental policies weren’t as ineffective as you claim. Many emissions, contaminations, overuse of resources etc have been avoided only because of EU rules. National governments would have ‘protected’ their industries much more with the result of lower consumer protection.

      A very prominent field of succesful European cooperation is research. Nation states couldn’t afford all the CERN, ESRF, XFEL etc that may also lead to breakthrough technologies for everyday use. But this needs reliable permanent structures because it takes in parts more than a decade to start scientific work. There are many more examples benefitting from permanent European institutions.

      EU tax would also be very reasonable for me because one could avoid this stupid ‘netto payer’ discussion.

    • avatar
      George

      Anti Europeans can stay “independent”.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      To elaborate on the multi state cooperation system. It’s as easy as everyone in Europe agrees to not charge import/export tariffs on each other, everyone in Europe agrees to not attack each other (unless mandated by the UN to do so) and also to help defend each other against hostile invasion. Everyone in Europe agrees to share information of criminals and terrorists and also agrees to extradition of criminals. Incidentally, you could replace all references to Europe with world :)

    • avatar
      Pat A

      At least use it in the context that John Lennon meant it to be …..
      Imagine there’s no countries
      It isn’t hard to do
      Nothing to kill or die for
      And no religion, too
      Imagine all the people
      Living life in peace… You…
      You may say I’m a dreamer
      But I’m not the only one
      I hope someday you’ll join us
      And the world will be as one

    • avatar
      Paul X

      “Anti Europeans can stay “independent”.”…..but I am European, are you saying I’m anti myself?

    • avatar
      George

      You are not European. You are a scheming, treacherous self serving political elite using nationalism to conceal your intention. Europeans do stick together.

    • avatar
      Joao

      I agree, Europeans lets stick together! In independent and sovereign countries, with control of our own borders, our own currencies, making our own laws, living our own dreams. We can share this amazing continent without a political union, without common currency, without the bureaucrats and their laws, without the anti-democratic system that the EU has created, without the disrespect of millions of people that had their votes ignored in referendums (apparently they got it wrong and politicians know better..) without this wet mad dream of a political and economical union that has destroyed several countries and intends to keep going.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      “Europeans stick together”…yes of course they do

      … just look at the solidarity between the EU powerhouse countries with their unemployment ~6% and Spain and Greece unemployment ~20%?

      …just look at the solidarity between the immigration problems in Greece and Italy and the attitude of the Eastern EU member states towards helping them?

      Despite all the Pro-EU rhetoric and blue flag waving when the going gets tough it’s every country for themselves…and if you want a prime example of a political elite you need look no further than Brussels

      I’m not concealing anything, I’m very open in my opinion that the EU is a failed political project which has been trying to establish itself in what is a totally unnecessary level of bureaucracy which achieves little of any substance but costs European taxpayers billions every year

    • avatar
      EU citizen

      Paul X, why do you want other countries to be independent from the EU. Aren’t you happy with just the UK being independent from the EU? I also think that dictatorship is more likely in a one country/one nation scenario rather than a union of 27 countries. For me unity is the way forward rather than countries trying to outplay each other until we go into war. Not to mention that there are threats bigger than individual countries like global warming so for me it goes without saying that unity is the future of the world and the EU is a good beginning ;)

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @EU Citizen, I respect your opinion. I disagree with it, but I am a firm believer in the fact that on balance human differences are how our societies function, without different ways of thinking innovation would be non existent or at the same rate of evolution. I don’t think it’s possible (in our current state of existence, one day we may transcend to a higher state of enlightenment which removes the impulse of greed) to have a completely unified world in any form other than oppressive rule/dictatorship. Paul x I absolutely correct in saying the larger a group you need to make happy with decisions, the fewer will be happy with the decision. Therefore, the logical solution is localising decision making as much as possible (obviously some decisions need making on a larger scale for logistical purposes) think of it like this, people in, let’s say Italy have a need for reductions in austerity to stimulate new innovations through better education availability and financing for start up businesses to find replacements for the largest employment industry locally, the EU superstate however decide increased austerity is what is better on balance across all areas of it’s union. As a result Italy suffers from massed unemployment, resulting in the massed movement of Italians to France (again as an example). As a result Italian suffers culturally, linguistically and in terms of services. Fewer patients = doctors move away to find work, children of Italian parentage raise their children in France, who then learn French, make French friends and probably identify as French. Italy over time as a result of these knock-on effects loses out on potential future innovators and artists and Italian culture declines. All for the sake of being able to set their own localised tax rates and public spending policies. Unity of ideals such as no fighting amongst ourselves are still very easy to achieve while maintaining individual governance. The UK is going through fairly massive devolution of government for just this reason!

    • avatar
      David

      @Duncan. I do believe we can reach a stage where a superatate is possible with some level of local governance. If I follow your logic (there is some truth in it) there may be more than 28 states in the EU. London may do better without the rest of the UK. There is little reason for United Kingdom in general, Northern Ireland and Scotland can leave that union…. Same in France and Spain where regions have fought for independence for decades, lets have an indpendent Basque country and Cataluna. I am not going to argue whether the independence of these states will bring them anything good but there are people in these regions who believe they have different identity and interests. My point is if the EU starts falling appart and we all start seeking our true national identity there may be more rejection and movement of borders than merely having UK, Italy, France etc. When we start building walls, identifying personal interests and looking for what sets us apart from our neighbours we will inevitably go into war.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @David, you say you followed my logic but neglected to notice that I stated the UK is already acknowledging the issue and devolving powers to local authorities, a process it has begun and that the government says it will continue to monitor and expand upon with due diligence over a period of time. London separating from the rest of the UK in terms of outright independence would be a ridiculous situation. A state that is just a city without any domestic agriculture, very little in the way of manufacturing and borders that the commuters that make up a large proportion of it’s workforce would need to cross twice a day to get to work. But a London city with it’s own mayor and ability to make bylaws and adjust it’s business rates etc. to suit it’s situation would be for the betterment of the people living and working their. This process is already well under way. I don’t think it’s as much an issue of individual identity of nations, we are for the most part similar enough culturally to coexist peacefully. The EU represents a situation that is constantly detracting from the sub states that make up it’s individual regions imposing at the union level tarrifs, rates, laws, and is even now talking about ways to horde more centralised powers. This is exactly in opposition to the devolved government system. Two polar opposite approaches cannot both be the best way forward simultaneously. And frankly if the EU had demonstrated a willingness to listen to the opinions of the people of the UK about what we had wanted then maybe, not definitely but maybe we wouldn’t have fealt as though we were being pushed into going along with somebody else’s way of doing things, having no democratic voice on what our governing body will look like and then possibly the vote of the referendum would have gone a different way. Instead we get accused of being uneducated, racist, isolationist backwards thinkers for voting against a system which cannot possibly be in our best interests since nobody even asked us what our best interests were. We were being treated like children, who needed to be told what to do as though we are incapable of working it out for ourselves.
      In short, I’m not opposed to cooperation at the international level. And if the remaining EU’s member states PEOPLE chose to go the route of solidifying the Union through further Unity I will endorse it and support it and wish them well. But sadly I do not see them getting asked just as we never got asked (until June 23rd).

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I have said it before, but it’s still true so I will say it again. Brexit was not the problem, it was a symptom. If symptoms go unnoticed then things get worse. The EU needed to change how it did things a long time ago if it really wanted the UK to stay. If it doesn’t want more countries to leave then it must change how it does things now. Maybe it’s already too late, maybe not. Only time will tell.

    • avatar
      EU citizen

      @Duncan. I think people don’t realise how they base their arguments on the very existence of the European Union. When you say we can “coexist peacefully”, I think that is because we are united (I am not saying it is the best union). The free movement of people is not a perfect concept but it has played its role in making us move and mix and hence love each other more because your neighbours are no longer just neighbours but they are your friends, often even your relatives.I am in no way against local governance but I am against a broken union and isolation. It isn’t about trade and economy even, it is about hostility and when we start splitting up based on our national identity, inevitably there will be nationalist movements taking over. Have you listened to Hitler’s speeches? He doesn’t talk about genocide or gas chambers, he actually talks about national identity, the inability of Germany to feed that many people and the need for other people to respect the German State/Empire. It is this rhetoric that takes over when we split based on national identity and we set borders in Europe. Europeans are NOT PEACEFUL by nature. It took us many centuries to get here.

    • avatar
      EU citizen

      As to the London example. It was just that an example. You will find people that will argue that London has enough money to buy its produce, but this doesn’t matter really for this argument. Different regions have different strengths

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @EU, I get what you’re saying. I really do. But, imposed unity breeds discontent and resentment that is just as dangerous to the peace of Europe. It is very possible to have a sense of nationality and still have a desire to live in peace with people regardless of their own nationality. Quite frankly the previous two world wars were not what Britain wanted. There was much effort made at diplomacy on both occasions before we reluctantly were drawn in to the war in support of our allies. Now we are allied to almost all of Europe. The same is true for all EU member states, so why would the absence of the EU mean almost certain war as is implied so often? I just don’t make the link between EU and peace in Europe. Whereas I do see the link to the EU and tensions running rampant over this thing or that thing. No one country seems totally happy with the deal they are getting from the EU (possibly Germany) so much in fact that it is likely to cause, inflame or be used as a Hitler-Styled scapegoat (the tax restrictions are why Greece’s economy is struggling. The tax restrictions are Germany’s fault we should hate the Germans. Or other examples). I’m not talking about isolationism, there’s a big difference between shutting down/opting out of a superstate concept and shutting yourself off and putting up the great wall of the English Channel. But, regional governance has a better result than conglomerated governance. And governance that is not accountable to the will of the people it governs is always worse than government where the people get a say.

    • avatar
      EU citizen

      Unfortunately (or may be not), neither me or you were there during World War I or II and if we were the situation must have been quite complicated . Even now with a “simple” in/out referendum things are so complicated, so one can only imagine what a war was like in an era where the means of communication were a lot more limited. I can quote some of the nazi speeches to showcase how they presented the truth about Imperial Britain (but I despise them too much to quote thme). If all people were like you, Duncan, I can imagine that the disintegration of the EU will not put peace at risk but unfortunately I think that the divisiveness around such referendums creates a vacuum for nationalist parties that will start by talking against the EU and turning into something much more vile. I suppose I am not against some level of national pride although I feel none, that is to say I admire people for who they are regardless of where they come from.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @EU Citizen, the two need not be exclusive. It is possible to both base your opinion of every person on individual merit and still find that the legal, moral, political, cultural and or financial situations of your country are world leading. On the flipside, it is also possible to see big flaws in those things in your country and wish to change it for the better. Both are forms of nationalism.
      As for the in/out simplistic nature of a referendum, I agree it’s oversimplified. But it was the first and only time the general public of the UK had been asked if they were happy with the EU’s current state, not only for as long as i’ve been allowed to vote but also for the entirety of my lifespan (and i’m not exactly fresh out of school). We were never asked what we wished for it’s future. I think it’s a shame that what appears to be a noble idea is once again being run/controlled/organised by people and then getting all nobility and goodness sapped out of it by greed and arrogance.

    • avatar
      Joao

      No thank you. No one wants that around here…

    • avatar
      George

      Mr Anti European just speak for yourself.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Gorge, I told you, you’re delusional to say the least. And obviously you know nothing of the demographics and social studies done in Europe regarding the will of the european population. But you don’t need to have much more than 2 brain cells to spread nonsense in a forum so…

  4. avatar
    Stefania Portici

    qualsiasi democrazia anche la peggiore è sempre meglio della migliore dittatura . UE è dittatura , fra venti anni mi auguro ci sia democrazia e che sia la volontà popolare a dirigere il passo e le scelte dell’Europa .

    any democracy also the worst is always better than the best dictatorship. EU dictatorship, between twenty years I hope there is democracy and it is the people’s will to direct the pace and the choices Europe.

    • avatar
      Bart Viaene

      1. Replace the nation states by a federation of small regions with roughly equal sizes.

      2. Invest in a durable economic future with a sustainable ecological footprint.

      3. Control population size in order to not dilute welfare.

      4. Stimulate trade on equal terms : tax the import of sweat shop products and use the proceeds to help bring manufacturing conditions to EU standards.

      5. Focus NGO aid on birth control, disaster relief and shoring up local initiatives.

      6. All religions should be taxed, not subsidized.

      7. Immigration should be quota-based and conditional : learn the language, respect the laws and adopt the culture, integrate and assimilate, or – if you can’t do it – study or work temporarily in the EU until your scheduled return.

      8. The EU should immediately stop manufacturing and exporting offensive weapons.

      9. Democratic elections with EU-wide political parties.

      10. New EU member candidates should be brought up to EU standards BEFORE joining, with EU aid focusing at one candidate at a time, in such a way that new members can start contributing to the EU from the start.

    • avatar
      Joao

      You are a dangerous man Bart… Replace the nation states by a federation of small regions, Control population size?! EU-wide political parties.

      You’re the product of EU indoctrination. I’m not surprised… with 40 years of this madness… I’m leaving Europe for good exactly because what you listed is what’s happening. Not because the people of Europe want it (most don’t and that was shown very clearly in the past), but because it’s being imposed on all of us, no questions asked, no opinions wanted, welcome to anti-democratic EU. I don’t envy the moment you will have to explain your kids how this generation screwed up big time, how we sold and resold and raped their future even before they were born. Good luck with that. And get them some books, the next generation absolutely needs to be smarted than this one…

    • avatar
      Joao

      Founding Fathers?!?! The wet dream of a United States of Europe is so big in some deranged minds that even the american expressions are being imported…

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Joao
      Well said!

      Founding Fathers = Founding Fuhrers

    • avatar
      George

      Europe finally must come together. Common external border, common army, bilingualism, renewable energy, and uphold our aspirations and our education at European standards.

    • avatar
      Joao

      You’re delusional to say the least George…..
      But just in case, start by asking the people of europe if that’s what they want!

  5. avatar
    Stephen Panev

    Hopefully without Islam, immigration and the hopelessly brainwashed liberals that hate their own countries.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Why without Islam?

    • avatar
      George

      Because we have a specific culture unlike the waiting room of everybody=England.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @George, 1stly I wasn’t asking you. 2ndly you’re so very wrong it’s unreal. A single specific culture across Europe? So European food is the same everywhere? French cinema, Italian fashion, Catholicism, orthodoxy, Protestantism, atheism, Judaism, and so on and so forth. Europe is nothing if not a blend of separate and in many cases very different cultures living alongside one another. Which is why I asked Stephen Panev why all of a sudden In their opinion Islam all of a sudden should not exist in Europe.

    • avatar
      Alex

      Yeah but none of the european countries (currently in EU) has been traditionally Muslim.

    • avatar
      Alex

      And if a country that is Islamic finally gets into EU, that county can obviously remain Islamic if however this is according to EU values. The rest of the countries can remain as they are. The EU cannot be a bargaining/conquering ground for religions.
      And if a Muslim person does not like it in a christianic european country, then they can go away to their own country.The same for a christian in a Muslim country.e.g. if 10000000 Muslim Turks go in Denmark and they do not like how it is there (few Mosques), they can go back to Turkey. Same with the Christians. And if people and nations use religion to influence the politics and administration in EU these have no place there

  6. avatar
    Salvatore Blasi

    A Europe, from England (included) to Greece (included Balcanic countries), more integrated (beginning from the founding nations) with real power of the parliament and common extended institutions.

  7. avatar
    Martin

    Hopefully a Europe that solved its political, economic and demographic challenges by:
    – either abandoning the EURO or establishing a coordinated economic policy with common EURObonds
    – agreeing on a common foreign policy and common foreign minister
    – developing a European identity among citizens
    – relaunching the economy by building and renewing infrastructure and creating competitive industries
    – accelerating the transition from fossil to renewable energies
    – reaching a birth rate between 2.0 and 2.1 to sustain demography

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Martin
      No Euro = this will soon come to pass.

      Common Foreign German Policy = this will soon come to pass.

      European Identity = one replete with corruption, dishonesty and arrogance.

      Relaunching the economy = Based on German business practices a la Volkswagen, Bosch, DFb.

      Accelerating the transition to renewables – this will soon come to pass.

      Reaching a demographically sustainable birth rate – hmmm, the Chinese have similar control over their national birth rates.

    • avatar
      György

      The Euro has nothing to do with a country’s or citizens wellbeing or the lack of it. In a time with much more national isolation politicians were fooling their people by devaluing their national currency at the expense of other countries. The English are just plain jealous that they are slowly degrading. Desperate to hold on to some imaginary leader position.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      “The English are just plain jealous that they are slowly degrading”….of course we are, I go green round the gills every time I think of the Greek economy or Spanish unemployment….

    • avatar
      György

      English purchasing power is the same as the Greek… But they have expectations so for them that is a crisis. European countries have quality of life, infrastructure such as housing, that you can’t even imagine. Highly productive economy, rights and services, capable of renewing itself and controlling their debt. England is just living off a heritage infrastructure and labour pool and can’t even pay to keep up this already very low level

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Gyorgy, you are wrong, Britain has vast purchasing power. Sadly it is all in the hands of a select few. If the average gdp per capita was a true reflection of each workers earnings(around £26,000 a year), then people living a modest lifestyle would have around £9,000 per year spare income to spend as they saw fit, already having transport, food, and accommodation costs paid. That’s enough for a decent new car every two years. As it is we have bankers, footballers, landlords and so on that control the purchasing power and waste much of it on things they have no real need for while a large percentage of the populace struggle to get by.

  8. avatar
    Vinko Rajic

    Similar to the US , STOP Arab immigration , no fossil fuels ( 100% wind, solar and hydro) , no more church ( STOP financing it and make museums of it) , EU + Canada + US + Australia + Russia have free trade similar to TTIP .

    • avatar
      Duncan

      No churches? I wouldn’t want to live their then.

  9. avatar
    Yanni Sfyrides

    A Green Europe! 100% respect and protection of environment, common Government with respect to local differentiations, common Army, etc-The European United Nations in a GREEN FOND (energy from wind,sea,solar energy etc).

  10. avatar
    Jorge Freitas

    I’d like it to have a bit less light pollution. There’s just too much light on that night view of it from space.

  11. avatar
    Graziano Paul Mare

    Less idiots, racists. Happy people who help each other, think with their own brains but listen to others and are not afraid of the future or an external enemy. In fact the real enemy is only fear inside us

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I find the real enemy is the fear inside others . . . . . Which is kind of the point many people miss as to why an armed forces are needed even if you never intend to attack anyone yourselves. Other’s intentions can only be guessed at. Guessing incorrectly they won’t invade and dropping your defences would be a tragedy.

    • avatar
      Alex

      There are no Greek alps. And we won’t pay for more stupid Olympcs. They Olympics can be permanently done in Greece for historically reasons but not that insane expenses..

    • avatar
      Alex

      If you mean the greek Pinthos you can use the original name

  12. avatar
    NISOS ELLAS

    I want to see the transformation of Centre of Athens into a Cultural Jewel with Classical , Renaissance , Baroque and Gothic Architecture.

  13. avatar
    Muses - Μούσες

    I want to see the building reconstruction restoration of the ancient Greek archaeological sites to their original architectural glory at the birthplace of western civilisation

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Well, birthplace of western civilisation sounds a bit on the pompous side. It is true the ancient Greek states contributed greatly to early civilisations in Europe, but this notion that before Greece came into being the rest of Europe was still knapping flint and hunting Mammoths and living in small tribes is, according to archaeological evidence just plain wrong. Also, by restoring the ancient structures, would it not in a way detract from their historic worth?

  14. avatar
    Αναγέννηση

    I want to see the Renaissance Social Movement become a Political Party in Greece to make the above 4 proposals come to fruition to construct a New Greece..

  15. avatar
    Faddi Zsolt

    In 2036 (in 20 years) I would like to see a 100% clean Europe, with 100% green engined vehicles and industry! I would like to see the restored demographic policy, according to which european people are supported by the Central Monetary Fund and with proper housing policy, to make more children! I would like to see how european population will increase in number, but NOT by migrants, but by ourselves! I would like to see (if I will live to that age) peace and prosperity in whole Europe (from Atlantic Ocean to Ural mountain), because prosperity is the only way to peace on the continent.

  16. avatar
    George

    Bilingual, political leaders even at national level trilingual, common external border, common army, unified education ,

    • avatar
      Joao

      In other words, the Spanish farmer from the country side can forget about any active participation in politics (which is his right!) because he doesn’t comply with your insane requirements. As if the political class is not already exactly that, a class, an elite of dangerous bureaucrats, now you want to legalize and enforce it. Next step must be the criminalization of poverty and lower classes…
      One thing is for sure, you are completely aligned with the UE goals, I hope you all fail! For the sake of the European people.

  17. avatar
    Tomas Mzr

    Sweden in ruin after civil war with muslims imigrants. Native Swedish minority in concentration camps. France and Germany at civil war with muslims minority. Grecee still asking for EU financial help. Italy in crisis … unemployment 50% !. Spain and Portugal took over by communists. People fights for food at streets, unemployment at 80%. UK becomes Great British Califate with capital city in New Mekka (previous Menchester). Central Europe flourish. Conservative governments reduce taxes what bring investments. V4 group establish new NATO headquarter in Prague since Brussels has been burned to the ground by muslims.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Why would you want this?

    • avatar
      Joao

      “Spain and Portugal took over by communists” ahahahahahha we wish… where are those communists these days…

  18. avatar
    Saroglou Chrstos

    I would like to see United States of Europe

    • avatar
      George

      True

    • avatar
      Duncan

      They might be being sarcastic, or just plain lying. How do you know it’s true George? Do you mean “I agree”?

    • avatar
      George

      Europe is for the Europeans.Anti Europeans go find your deals with the world. You’ll see yourself trotting in ever deeper animalic conditions with ever louder success propaganda.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I thought Angela Merkel decided Europe was for Europeans and refugees? Who are these Anti-Europeans you keep talking about? Somebody who is opposed to the continent of Europe . . . . . it just seems so unlikely/silly a viewpoint to take.

    • avatar
      Joao

      @George, like Iceland did? Iceland, a country of 323.000 inhabitants managed to secure a trade deal with China. The EU, the “big fancy power block”, hasn’t managed the same. Good job EU! If that’s all you can do… I’m sure we will be much better off without you.

  19. avatar
    Michał Jarski

    Europe free of hatred and nationalists . Europe free to do whatever it wants, not threatened by other states (like the US with the Galileo space program). Europe with at least 80% green energy … but this is just wishful thinking… :/

  20. avatar
    Tom Doran

    I’d like to see a lot more KFCs in mainland Europe. They are all over Britain. Get your act together Europe!

    • avatar
      George

      We have standards pigs. We prefer French, Italian and Spanish restaurants all over Europe.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @George, Britain has all of them all over. And kfc is very tasty and prepared to a high standard using fresh ingredients (according to the adverts at least, can’t say I ever watched them make the food) so what’s lacking in terms of standards in your opinion?

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Tom, another practical solution is that you stay in Britain and keep feeding on KFC. Whereas those that like variety can keep travelling.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Yasmine, surely there’s less variety available if KFC are being excluded, not more?

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I wouldn’t. At least not unless what the EU is and will become changes massively.

  21. avatar
    EU reform- proactive

    Hey- please guys- it’s not a competition to select & crown the most funniest or grotesque solutions- be more serious- more “EU’ristic”- the EU trophy is to be won!
    ……sorry, still contemplating & working on variable EU 2050- 20150 PLANS- like the EU!

  22. avatar
    Naresh K. Moorjani

    To take care of its own citizens first as priority and then outside, curb rampant coruption… eliminate imunity to coruption and ambigious laws, .. make laws clear and precise and thier equal enforcement on all…curb high pays and facilities to politicians and beurocrats.

  23. avatar
    Alfredo Iannuzzi

    Actually I can’t see any change… Nationalism is rising again in most of the nations and a bunch of bureaucrats are trying to impose regulations in favor of the lobbies they are representing

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Pete John Stoneham
      What you are proposing is a ‘Banana Federation’ Culture.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @both of you, what are you talking about? France is already a cultural centre!

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Au contraire , mon ami…

      France thinks it is still a cultural centre..

    • avatar
      Duncan

      So, the louvre has been moved? The Eifel tower and Notre dame were dismantled were they? Thousands of artist don’t flock to Paris or wish they could go to be able to soak up the cultural atmosphere?

    • avatar
      Paul X

      There is more to culture than a few museums and monuments, France, and Paris in particular has gone through a seismic change in culture over the past decade and it is not for the better

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Paul x, there may be more to culture than art and architecture. But they are still a part of culture, and Paris still has both in abundance, so Paris (ergo France) is still a major cultural centre. It may be waning right now, but I expect it will be waxing again at some point soon. Culture flourishes during times of plenty, right now austerity and hardship are getting in the way is all.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Salvatore Anzalone
      Sounds like the ‘Radlands’!

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Such oppressive statements are disturbing . . . . . . . .

    • avatar
      George

      We Europeans unlike you English we have a well defined culture and we want to keep it. We don’t want to stop in the middle of sidewalk cause we met our friends there not realising that you care blocking the way. And low discipline that for instance causes an abhorrent work ethic.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @George
      Please kindly stick to the forum question and try to keep your racist sentiments to yourself.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @George, you realm need to synchronize your viewpoints with reality. England is a European country, this is a fact. The Europeans don’t have a well defined culture. They have a mixed culture and as with cultures around the world it is one that evolves and incorporates aspects and elements from other cultures it encounters. What’s more is Islam has played a part in European culture for centuries already, so how can you claim you will lose your culture because of Islam being in Europe? Is your culture really so fragile in your opinion that even if Islam in Europe was some new concept that it your culture would crumble?

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      I don’t see anything racist about George’s comment.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Yasmine, George’s comment very clearly stereotyped, pigeonholed, categorised and/or grouped English people together. It’s discriminatory in a way that is parallel with racism. While technically not racism (as English people are mixed ethnicity) it is nevertheless the most accurate description since discrimination against a “people” is racist and English people is what he was writing about.

  24. avatar
    Alessio Caddeo

    Fiscal union, which is a no-brainer if you want a monetary union to be sustainable. Fiscal union should’ve been achieved even before the monetary union, and could’ve prevented disasters such as the Greek crisis.
    Fiscal union makes the common currency stronger, and this in turn makes the Union stronger.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Alessio Caddeo
      Money, money, money – what about lack of democracy!

    • avatar
      Alex

      Yeah well when the richest country in the Eurozone bosses around the rest, threatening to kick them out of the “club” if they do not obey, is not acceptable. A fiscal union indeed needed to have been implemented where it would never have been them vs us. There is no place in EU a finance minister of one country messing with the finances of another.

  25. avatar
    Joseph Bartolo

    A United Europe was a good idea, until the laws and regulations of a few thousand in Brussels and Strasbourg, created the corrupt system we are in. Let us together work together not only for a harmonious and prosperous Europe, but let us all Together live in a Harmonious and Prosperous World, making sure that all nations are working together, for a peaceful and prosperous future, for the whole planets population, in the now and for many generations to come. Together WE are strong and united, divided we wont last another century.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Joseph Bartolo
      Nice sentiments BUT the UK tried for decades to civilise the EU BUT without success.

      Indeed, methinks that EU-lite will ultimately result in contention between the EU Latin nations and NaziGermany.

    • avatar
      EU citizen

      Why are you calling Germany a nazi state? Is the UK still an empire and the Balkans are probably enslaved by the Ottoman empire. Let’s stick to this century. The EU is not the UK’s problem any more.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @EU Citizen, Tarquin has a very individual outlook on the world. Nazi Germany is a thing of the past, but I will say there are still German Nazi’s (sadly there are Nazi’s the world over) even if they are now in the minority. As for the EU not being the UK’s problem anymore, I’d have to say I disagree strongly. Since we have to negotiate our exit from the EU, and even once we’ve left any and all financial decisions an economy the size of the EU’s makes will have a world wide effect in this globalised world we live in. Then of course, there’s the fact we remain militarily aligned. Which means any decisions the EU makes that threaten military retaliation will have an impact on us.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @EU Citizen
      “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
      George Santayana

      Germany has a track record of imposing itself on Europe a la the 20th century – on both occasions it failed militarily.

      Its 3rd attempt at domination of Europe (read EU) has caused great stress, duress and depress – so much so that the UK has decided to leave the EU and too a Southern bloc has formed to fight German dominance of the EU.

      Much as I admire many, many aspects of Germany – it cannot be allowed to dominate the EU as is the case at present.

      BTW, the UK has not yet left the EU [I fear it may never leave the EU BTW] so its voice (a bastion of freedom of democracy) should be heard.

    • avatar
      George

      What way? The way of no employee rights, crumbling infrastructure, of poor education, of total lack of aspirations and ever more animalic conditions, the inability to renew the labour pool and infrastructure? And rabies like nationalism and isolation (the least foreign language apeaking country) to cover the fact that the purchasing power is the same as in Greece?

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @George, even if your words held a shred of truth it still beats the way of hating on people just because they disagree with you to the point of going on the internet and constantly attacking them with rants about how terrible a place and people they are.
      The UK had employee rights before the EU existed.
      Education in the UK is amongst the best in the world, ranking 6th according to the latest findings.
      Aspirations are a personal thing, so I can’t speak for the whole of the UK, but I have aspirations.
      Animalic is not a word, I think you mean animalistic (education) so, you are implying we have animalistic conditions. Well, humans are animals, so there’s that fact to consider (human conditions therefore are animalistic conditions) but I think you mean to imply we live like animals so let’s not forget just how much we British love our animals, the rspca is there to ensure animals have good conditions and it is funded by the British people. So animals have it really good over here, in fact far better than humans in some countries.
      Inability to renew the labour pool, so you think we have a 0% birth rate? Wrong! “rabies like nationalism and isolation” does not make sense as a statement. We have had 4 deaths from rabies in the past 16 years, that’s 0.25% deaths a year. Nationalism is a thing here, it’s a thing everywhere. It varies from person to person from simply being thankful for the country they were born in to in some extreme cases, hating anyone or thing they perceive as a threat to their nation.
      Isolation is not a major problem for the UK, we have great telecommunications technologies and seaports, airports and even a tunnel so we are able to travel to and talk to people the world over.
      The least foreign speaking country is not exactly a problem since we already speak the universal language (English) but I speak multiple languages and know others that do too.
      I don’t know what twisted statistics you get this idea that the UK’s spending power is the same as Greece’s, but we’re actually about $10,000 per person above Greece for PPP.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      “No employee rights”…well if the UK is so concerned with these we will vote in a socialist government
      “Crumbling infrastructure”..ok, just tell me one (useful) piece of infrastructure that is only standing because we are members of the EU?
      “Poor education”.is that why so many EU immigrants into the UK are students, because our education is so poor?
      “Total lack of aspirations and ever more animalic conditions” .Maybe you can re-write this so it makes sense?
      “Labour pool” ..plenty of people will still want to come and work here, we will just be able to pick who we want
      “Rabies like nationalism” . I suggest your pro EU/anti UK rhetoric is probably down to a case of rabies, you certainly come across like a dog foaming at the mouth

  26. avatar
    mr-ede

    It would be nice, to have no death at the EU-Borders. But it should not last 20 years to solve this humanitarian crisis.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Why we collectively decided to tell an entire country’s worth of people to come to Europe without some form of massed Dunkirk style set up of boats being borrowed to safely get them here is beyond me. Then again why we didn’t collectively merely pay for temporary accommodation and peace keepers and doctors and nurses to go over their until the crises abated is also beyond me to be frank.

  27. avatar
    Shane Hughes

    A new form of federation. One which allows each state to continue enjoy its unique culture.

    A super nation made up of smaller nations.

    One Europe, united economically, politically and militarily.

    The cultures individual and unique as always.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      That is a contradiction. If Europe is untied economically, politically and militarily it cannot contains smaller nations.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Delusional at best..

  28. avatar
    Sharon Rosen

    I would like to see a Europe which still includes the UK. The world is a smaller place and we should all be working together.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Europe does include the UK, we are leaving the EU not Europe. We can and will still cooperate with the entire world (including the EU) it’s not in our collective nature to be uncooperative.

  29. avatar
    Robert Kolarec

    EVs everywhere at any road, renewable energy used and transformed 100%, the best possible education all ower the EU, the same standard any Contry member EU at, less polititians, much more engeneers and technitians, low CO2 level, clean wather, no oil and gas exploatation, clean sea…
    EU should be a leader in almost everything!

  30. avatar
    Art Lewis

    Doesn’t matter what any of you think. The governments and the power brokers will mould and bend it to their will no matter what your opinion.

    • avatar
      George

      Go trigger your article 50 nobody stops you lodmouth gipsies and get lost from us Europeans.

    • avatar
      Joao

      George… the mirror of the europe for peace, respect and co-living. Thank you for proving my point that the EU is never going to work. You are all delusional, at best.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Yeah? I’m moving to Asia then…

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Bye bye!

  31. avatar
    Phillip Barham

    Hopefully 28 separate country’s trading happily with each other no trouble no unelected mafia burocrates using lobbying big corporations to sway the tides of wealth no one country in charge of another
    Churchill s words of Europe still holds true today as it ever did that’s what I want

    • avatar
      George

      Your free to leave, put your money where your mouth was.

  32. avatar
    Eleanor Young

    I’d like to see a federal united Europe with the same opportunities for all member states. This would me the same tax systems and percentages, benefit systems and pension systems. An issue I find particularly important is the refugee crisis, where I’d like there to be a fair, proportionate sharing of refugees in all 28 member states. I’d also like an optional exchange work programme, where instead of old style military service, young people could spend 2 years living and working in another member state, learning the language and experiencing a different culture. This would, I believe drastically reduce the kind of intolerance we have seen in Britain over the last 3 months.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Delusional at best… you could have been one of the puppets that sold us this wet dream 30-40 years ago. Should Britain also accept the euro and loose total control of its economy? Should Britain referendums also be ignored like the Irish, French and Dutch referendums were? Should we happily praise the most undemocratic union we could think of building just for the sake of this political correct speech that as poisoned our national parliaments all across the continent? The EU is not undemocratic. It’s anti-democratic. If you take the time to actually learn about the EU institutions and a bit less with political correctness and wet delusional dreams of “unity”… than we might have the chance for a peaceful future of national independent and sovereign democracies, like we once were.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Eleanor Young
      You forgot to add a ‘1-child per couple policy’ and ‘jail for those who ridicule the Brussels elite’!

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I have still to see a single example of this intolerance everyone is talking about first hand, despite living in Britain. This either means it is far less widespread than certain people are wanting to portray, or I live in the single place in Britain that’s a shining example of tolerant understanding. . . . . . . . .

  33. avatar
    Dean Stapple

    Not run by the fucking morons who run it now I voted leave purely on the basis that we can not get rid of these idiots by voting them out and probably a lot more would have changed their minds if eu leaders were held democratically accountable every few years by Europe wide elections so pricks like junker could be kicked out

    • avatar
      George

      It’s you crumbling desperate gypsies that hindered the formation of a European government that would elected.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @George, Stapple is not a gypsie surname so far as I’m aware, more racism? Also, since the people that make such decisions have nothing to do with the ordinary people, and are not accountable by even the poor standards of democracy in the form of people voting for a set of manifesto pledges that may or my not be kept after the fact, I’m curious exactly how you think everyone in Britain was somehow solely responsible for everything in the EU that has ever not gone the way you want it to?

  34. avatar
    Julia Cavalier

    I’d like to see a strong united European Union which has listened to the concerns of its members & become more flexible so that no country wants to leave. I want to see the United Kingdom play an active part as a key member of the European Union, leading not leaving. I feel it is vital that the countries of Europe stand united against threats such as the rise of the far right, ISIS and Russian aggression and work with countries such as Serbia to help them join

    • avatar
      Joao

      Another delusional liberal thinker of the political correctness blabber…. bla bla bla… You should be happy some people in the UK had the brains to wake up and run away from the EU.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Russian aggression?! Please, turn off your TV, you’re being mind controlled. Russian aggression… omg.. do you have any clue what NATO is doing at this moment?! Do you have any clue of what happened in Ukraine?! Russian aggression?! Please… for your own sake, turn off the TV and open your eyes.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Joao, why are you being so aggressive? The poster stated a valid set of opinions as to what they want for the future. Just say you disagree, state some facts to support your viewpoint. No need to go bla bla bla and throw words like delusional around.
      @Julia lead not leave was a remain campaign slogan, and frankly I disliked it from the offset. It suggests some system in which Britain (or at least it’s politicians) was bossing Europe about and controlling things. So IF there is any truth to the slogan (which I doubt) then leaving the EU was also the best thing for the EU as well as for the UK.

  35. avatar
    Mark Davie

    A place where we address everyone as “citizen” and no longer have to think for ourselves….. Not!!

  36. avatar
    Andrea Scacchi

    AHAHAH if it will exist. You should ask George Orwell for that…
    A europe like this I hope will not survive the next 10 years.
    If it changes, (fiscal union, equal right to all its citizen, maybe no euro, elected government) we can talk about.

  37. avatar
    Janet taylor

    United in diversity and with the UK a member of the EU minus Ukip and the far right tories!

    • avatar
      Joao

      So you want to go back to not having control of your own country, democracy being destroyed on a daily basis, all national sovereignty lost… that’s clever indeed..

    • avatar
      Duncan

      More worryingly Joao, they seem to be talking about “getting rid” of political opposition. I thought that was a far right concept?

    • avatar
      George

      True!

    • avatar
      George

      True

  38. avatar
    Thomas Beavitt

    Integrated with the rest of Eurasia. Less financially wealthy. More socially and culturally rich.

  39. avatar
    Mark Lock

    A divided continent, on one side a federalised state with something resembling an undemocratic version of United States of America, formed by countries that have turned in states governed by Brussels, and the other of free independent democratic countries…

    • avatar
      George

      The other side a single crumbling scheming desperate island lying to itself whilst sinking ever further into the third world.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Well George, the last I checked there was more than one European country that is not an EU member state and not all of those are islands . . . . . .

  40. avatar
    Michel Roth

    Not as brown, less assholes, less idiots, less uneducated people who think they should have a political opinion on every single fucking comment they read on facebook.
    Either that or a return of 18th century-style monarchy. Yea that would be pretty neat too.
    How about the first roth dynasty? I would make sure everyone got his complementary cat and pizza.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I don’t particularly like cats, could I substitute it for a dog?

  41. avatar
    Georg Blaha

    Active cross-border cooperation, world leader in innovation and research, trans-continental problem solving, global example for human rights and open society, a general awareness of European culture and history, Cyprus peacefully united, England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland as member states, good cooperation with and clear distinctions towards neighboring states, national parliaments promoting European awareness.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      So, you want Europe to control how the rest of the world live and do things? That’s very . . . . . . Imperialist(?) of you.

  42. avatar
    David Lacey

    Apparently we should be waiting for Theresa May and our Lords and masters negotiate ‘Brexit’ on our behalf and she is not ‘giving a running commentary’ even to Parliament. Arrogant imo

    • avatar
      Duncan

      The negotiations haven’t begun yet, so what’s to report?

  43. avatar
    Alan Austin

    United, at peace, prosperous and culturally rich in diversity. Led by a Federal system with less national and more like regional federal governance sitting across the continent so that no “nation” dominates the decision making process. Thus each citizen feels connected to their local culture and government plus contributes to the combined strength of the continent. The current nations are often the creation of relatively recent (in historical terms) oppression and wars, let us try something new with the aim of peace, prosperity and tolerance for all citizens.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      “no “nation” dominates the decision making process” …you mean just as it is now which is why it takes months and large sums of taxpayers money before any decisions are ever arrived at…?

    • avatar
      George

      No nation dominates anything. Loosers frustration.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      “No nation dominates anything”

      My point exactly which is why nothing gets achieved. You may like your taxes (big assumption on my part there) wasted on 28 people with totally different agendas bitching at each other across a table but I prefer a government which actually delivers something for my money

    • avatar
      Alex

      Yes, there are nations that dominate others

  44. avatar
    Ginny Smith

    Creative, culturally vibrant, respectful of difference and diversity, tolerant, and having developed a new model of capitalism that all 28 (YES the UK would still be a member!) countries would have co-operated on designing. A financial and economic system that would provide an alternative to the current neo-liberal orthodoxy. A Europe that worked to ensure that not one of its citizens missed out on educational and work opportunities, and that had addressed the massive differentials in wealth and opportunity that exist at present.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Delusional…I’m appalled by the comments you people make here..

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Joao, daring to dream isn’t a crime. The EU, just as communism and democracy before it are noble ideas of people living and working peacefully alongside each other for the betterment of the future. Sadly, the EU as with communism and democracy before it need people, people are greedy in nature greed corrupts ideology and we end up back in a situation where it’s the masses being controlled, oppressed and manipulated so that a small elite group can live as they like. The delusion starts and ends with this idea that people are ready to transcend to a higher state of enlightenment. Only by accepting our true nature and actively trying to be better than that does civilisation function at all. So sadly, it’s a lie that won’t go away as too many people need it to cling to.

  45. avatar
    Dany Barradas Sobral

    Europe should go back to nation states, I’d agree to cooperation in some form, Islam should have less influence and immigration form Muslim countries should in fact be controlled, real refugees should get help instead (like Assyrians, Kurdish people, women and children etc…). I hope that the political left will cease to have power and that the right-wing can finally without being demonized take controll. I wish for a Swiss form of democracy, I wish for cooperation with Russia, independence from the US and that Luxembourgish should finally be an official European language.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Just a few things, immigration from muslim countries being controlled, should that not be the case for all countries? As for Islam having less influence, please elaborate. Since this ranges from a sensible idea through to religious oppression without further clarity. I would have said simply swapping from reliance upon the US to reliance upon Russia would not help Europe. If Luxembourgish is a language spoken within the EU then yes it should have official status.

  46. avatar
    David Hall

    I would like to see a Europe that preserved national cultures but had a no tariff trading structure without the idiotic federalisation of the EU! We also need to all have national Oaths of Allegience for immigrants to swear to uphold the laws, traditions and languages of their new countries. Any transgressions mean instant deportation!

    • avatar
      Duncan

      Yes, because as we know, an oath is taken seriously by everyone. Why not just laws and law enforcement?

  47. avatar
    Gillian Swart

    I would like to see the EU collapse and each country given back to be independant again. These countries now are being hit not only by mass migration but financially too.

    • avatar
      George

      You can trigger your article 50 you crumbling desperate loudmouths. And go in the “forum of the world” why are you even in a European forum?

    • avatar
      Duncan

      George, not for the first time, I’m informing you that the UK, if indeed that is where this poster is from is in Europe. It’s still also currently still in the EU.
      I’d also like to point out that calling someone a loudmouth over a written debate is . . . . . well just plain idiotic frankly. Have you ever heard Gillian speak? How do you know she is a loudmouth?

  48. avatar
    Ivan Burrows

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    The European experiment promised peace, security & prosperity but it has delivered social unrest, mass migration & mass unemployment while stealing democracy & dignity from the people.

    The EU has no future.

    • avatar
      George

      Anti European instigators it’s you sinking ever lower.

  49. avatar
    Massimo

    An EU which is also a fiscal union, with the same policies all around, just as if there where no states at all.
    Also, a shared policy on how to fight against climate change.
    Also, peace at borders. I mean a common immigration solution, taking as granted that as long as there will be a wealth differential, migration will always occur.

    Viva viva A. Spinelli and his ideals.

  50. avatar
    Miguel Cabrita

    Europe will be still enchanted by it’s own gloomy shine, while keeping it’s steady passe towards historical borders drawn by it’s own civilization.

  51. avatar
    George E Kroussaniotakis

    Europe has achieved peace at least in Europe! Every European Union country’s standard of living is much higher now than before the EU. It has many problems to be address, but addressed constructively with the IDEA of Europe as the centre of inspiration!

    • avatar
      Joao

      Logical fallacy. Of course all EU countries are better now than before. That doesn’t mean the EU institutions were the reason for that development. Or only EU bureaucrats now know how to develop countries and societies? Your name suggests you’re Greek, if that the case it’s very interesting that you think the EU brought you all that development you dream of. I know without a doubt that my country is much worst now than before we joined the EU. “IDEA” of europe. That’s ideology, that’s what’s wrong with it. That’s what’s extremely dangerous about it. Fortunately, the self-destruction button was already pressed a few times and the process it’s clearly on its way.

  52. avatar
    Miguel Cabrita

    Europe will be still enchanted by its own gloomy shine, while keeping its steady pace towards historical borders drawn by it’s own civilization.

  53. avatar
    Leone Di Pace

    Ehmmm…..like a huge community who fights back America and its bullshit?! 😳😳😳

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Maybe you can be more specific about exactly what “bullshit” you are referring to and just how the EU would be able to “fight back”?

  54. avatar
    Cody Maverick

    I wish to see no more blue flag with golden stars on the side of the Italian flag. I wish in 20 years no more people will talk about European union or USE. There’s no need of a European union.

    • avatar
      György

      I wish the English put their money where their mouth is and trigger article 50. I wish they’ll be voted out by the member states. I wish they’ll never be allowed anymore in the political structures of the EU that should be unified with multilingual citizens.

    • avatar
      Joao

      György, where can I get all that for my own country? It would be very liberating.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      I wish that Gyorgy would notice the mention of the Italian flag and begin to realise that it’s not just the English who are displeased with the EU.
      I wish Gyorgy would be less driven by racial hatred of the English.

  55. avatar
    Elena Ruppi

    Più equilibrata, più rassicurante, più ricca di lavoro ….. con tanti ingredienti più “POSITIVI E PROPOSITIVI” CHE ASSICURINO LAVORO, UNIONE FRA I POPOLI ED UN’EMORRAGIA DI PACE ED AMORE IN TUTTO IL MONDO !!!!!

  56. avatar
    Elena Ruppi

    Più equilibrata, più rassicurante, più ricca di lavoro ….. con tanti ingredienti più “POSITIVI E PROPOSITIVI” CHE ASSICURINO LAVORO, UNIONE FRA I POPOLI ED UN’EMORRAGIA DI PACE ED AMORE IN TUTTO IL MONDO !!!!!

  57. avatar
    Francesco Haag Bellini

    United States of Europe with fast and free Internet everywhere, freedom for all and protection from every religious extremist that should stay outside. No burka or similar, yes to naturism.

  58. avatar
    Christian

    A Federal Union similar to the US model. I would ask the people participating to the roundtable whether they think it is the right time to start a deepening through democratization. For instance, by introducing the popular election of the President of the European Council and by leaving more and more matters (e.g., migration, security, limits to fiscal policies of Eurozone members) to be decided with the community method.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Christian
      I am glad that you acknowledge the lack of democracy in the EU – that’s one of the reasons why the UK has 8 out of the 10 poorest regions in the Northern EU.

      Who would decide who could be listed as a presidential candidate?

      The EU has already decided upon what parties can be in the EP – that’s NOT my kind of democracy.

      The EU has already mucked-up on many of the ‘matters’ of which you spake – it cannot be trusted any further with same.

      If an EU does exist in 20 years – it needs to be re-built from the base – i.e. NO Brussels, NO Luxembourg and NO Strasbourg.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      @György

      28 nations legally binding themselves into institutions will not solve global issues, that would require world wide legal institutions…and if that ever happens the EU institutions become superfluous so essentially it is pointless creating them in the first place

  59. avatar
    Bart Viaene

    Joao, I read your reactions to the debate entries of myself and other contributors : they are all negative and insulting, not one positive proposal…

    Please look in a mirror and think hard about your stance in the European Union. I am sorry you don’t want to participate in helping us improve and construct our common future.

    My children are well-read and well-travelled, thank you. We all have worked in foreign countries, inside and outside the EU. My eldest daughter just came back from helping out in a stray dogs sanctuary in Morocco, and building an earth-ship in Portugal.

    I even wrote an e-book with my ideas and solution proposals about “taming” globalization :

    http://www.googlaid.net

    I realize that the EU appears to be the promised land for many foreigners. That is quite natural, as our level of luxury and well-being is high. It is only logical for us to try to keep it that way, and even improve upon it.

    Sadly, that won’t happen through unlimited growth and wide open borders. Instead, we HAVE to try to expand our “EU wealth” to other areas. We ARE trying, and succeeding slowly : Eastern Europe is gradually catching up, and even globally, hunger and abject poverty are being reduced, with a better spread between extremely rich and extremely poor.

    The EU managed to conserve its riches mainly by consciously limiting its own population growth. Our wealth is no longer diluted. This could serve as an example to other parts of the world. Unacceptable, counter-intuitive, against religious beliefs to many, but nevertheless very effective. Face the facts ! Having 10 kids will NOT ensure THEIR future, only (very unlikely) YOUR OWN…

    Think long-term ! Humans are presently competing with all other life forms, and winning this battle on an unprecedented scale. How will OUR children survive in an “Easter Island”-kind of world where all other living creatures have been consumed or destroyed ?!

    Good luck finding a place outside of the EU where you can escape your responsibilities to our common Earth, and live a self-centered life ! I won’t have to explain what happened to your children : you won’t have any, at least not for very long. And I will feel sorry for you, because I want you to stay and to build with you a durable future.

    Bart

    #comment-308283
    Author: Joao
    Comment:
    You are a dangerous man Bart…

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Bart what you fail to mention is exactly why we need the political construct of the EU to tackle global issues? The divide between rich and poor is a worldwide issue as is what you describe as “responsibilities to our common earth”

      Why do we need a level of “middle management” between 28 European countries and the world wide cooperation that is needed to tackle these issues, it is just an unnecessary drain on limited resources

    • avatar
      György

      Because ad hoc cooperation never works. Preprogrammed legally binding institutions are those that work.

    • avatar
      EU reform- proactive

      Bart, your personal effort to improve humanity on a global scale is exemplary. But let’s face reality- an impossible task for us (or a handful) ordinary folks. You may be driven by “no act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted”? What’s easier: being a philanthropist without money or one with money? While you’ve chosen to subscribe to a certain ideology, (like so many others to different ones) you might have spare resources & time which you are free to use to best suit your mission.

      Within the narrower, but very complex EU context- which incrementally extended its stated economic mandate from inception (1952) of plain trade only- capturing (using questionable “democratic” means) and centralizing economic, political & social power over time- to its stated final aim to abolish all sovereignty from everyone- (taking on board globalization, destructive capitalism, corporatism, comparative advantages, near irrevocable memberships, centralism & (US type) global militarism to name a few) That is the main gripe & argument on this forum.

      This critique is directed against the seemingly unstoppable trend which is concocted behind closed doors in the EU headquarters in Brussels. How well do you know the depth of the EU with all its emerging treaties- to give them your seemingly unqualified blessings?

      Many of your suggestion & issues sound strange & are irrelevant within the narrow EU political context. They probably could be better addressed at the many NGO’s or existing UN created institutions- lesser by the empire builders in Brussels- which many of us struggle with.

    • avatar
      Bart Viaene

      Joao, I read your reactions to the debate entries of myself and other contributors : they are all negative and insulting, not one positive proposal…

      Please look in a mirror and think hard about your stance in the European Union. I am sorry you don’t want to participate in helping us improve and construct our common future.

      My children are well-read and well-travelled, thank you. We all have worked in foreign countries, inside and outside the EU. My eldest daughter just came back from helping out in a stray dogs sanctuary in Morocco, and building an earth-ship in Portugal.

      I even wrote an e-book with my ideas and solution proposals about “taming” globalization :

      http://www.googlaid.net

      I realize that the EU appears to be the promised land for many foreigners. That is quite natural, as our level of luxury and well-being is high. It is only logical for us to try to keep it that way, and even improve upon it.

      Sadly, that won’t happen through unlimited growth and wide open borders. Instead, we HAVE to try to expand our “EU wealth” to other areas. We ARE trying, and succeeding slowly : Eastern Europe is gradually catching up, and even globally, hunger and abject poverty are being reduced, with a better spread between extremely rich and extremely poor.

      The EU managed to conserve its riches mainly by consciously limiting its own population growth. Our wealth is no longer diluted. This could serve as an example to other parts of the world. Unacceptable, counter-intuitive, against religious beliefs to many, but nevertheless very effective. Face the facts ! Having 10 kids will NOT ensure THEIR future, only (very unlikely) YOUR OWN…

      Think long-term ! Humans are presently competing with all other life forms, and winning this battle on an unprecedented scale. How will OUR children survive in an “Easter Island”-kind of world where all other living creatures have been consumed or destroyed ?!

      Good luck finding a place outside of the EU where you can escape your responsibilities to our common Earth, and live a self-centered life ! I won’t have to explain what happened to your children : you won’t have any, at least not for very long. And I will feel sorry for you, because I want you to stay and to build with you a durable future.

      Bart

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Bart Viaene
      A passionate melange of a Utopian future no doubt.

      BUT what about democracy and the lack therein the EU?

      What about the ‘Beurocrats’ and their sanctimonious, undemocratic and unaccountable madness?

    • avatar
      Joao

      Bart, you choose wise words but I still think you’re an optimist delusional. I mean no offense, I really don’t. I want to address the wrong assumptions you made about me first. I’m going out of the EU to work as a long time volunteer (like I’ve been doing for a while now..). How’s that for self-centered life style.. And no, I won’t have children because I don’t want them to go through a life of misery and war, because that’s exactly the path that I see this species going to. Actually, look around, turn on the TV (but not for long) and the evidence is quite clear. Another big world war is coming, I’m pretty sure I’m still young enough to be here to suffer through it, so for sure I don’t want my children going trough the same. But this is a personal choice based on my wishes to be or not to be a (responsible) parent.
      And please don’t be sorry for me, I’m not sad to be going out of Europe, by the contrary, I’m very happy for what lies ahead for me. You assume Europe is some kind of Human heaven so anyone wanting to go out of it must be because they are either forced or have no alternative. That’s not the case at all! Gosh, even some “refugees” are going back to the middle east because Europe only managed to disappoint them! I wonder why..

      Anyway, I think we have similar mindsets, although both of us probably don’t realize it. Maybe the biggest difference between the two of us is that you believe that we must work to improve this europe to achieve a set of moral standards and goals that are the basis of a peaceful and decent life for everyone.
      On the other side, but exactly with the same goals, I believe this europe (and I’m talking about the EU, not the European continent) is the main cause of the social calamities that we are going through. I concluded the EU is a wet dream that came out of some psychopaths heads 40-50+ years ago, it was perpetuated through the same psycopath families that still rule the financial/banking/cooperative world and here we are. In a Europe of poverty, unemployment, social control, corruption and status quo. Since Merkel decided to open the doors the european faith was carefully carved. We will have a medieval Eurabia in less than 20 years, by demographic imperialism. The sooner these EU institutions and their ideologies go away, the sooner we all have a better chance of achieving those same common goals that anyone with a few brain cells can agree with.
      Has history shown us nothing? You seem educated, think about similar ideologies and where they ended up in. Good luck!

    • avatar
      Joao

      EU Reform- Proactive, I subscribe entirely. That’s why I say most pro-EU people around here are simply delusional..

  60. avatar
    Andrew Haslam-Jones

    More like Sweden, better, more flexibly, educated, enabled to exploit the opportunities that the world presents and to navigate the challenges, with universal healthcare and a welfare system that supports and encourages, and, oh, with the UK proudly and resolutely at the heart of EU. :-)

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Andrew Haslam-Jones
      Nice sentiments but FTR, Sweden is starting to fall apart…

    • avatar
      Joao

      What do you say to the huge Muslim migrant problem that Sweden is facing right now? And Sweden inability to solve it while part of the EU (actually it was the EU politics creating the problem to Sweden)?

  61. avatar
    Danny Boy

    If your’d asked some of these delusional Euro fanatics that pollute this forum twenty years ago what they thought Europe would look like today,they’rd come out with the same nonsense they print today.
    A federal superstate,a common European army,a common currency and everybody loving each other and respecting their cultural differences,it’s pathetic.
    How many do you think would have predicted that the common currency would be a disaster,the European army wouldn’t exist,Greek,Spanish and Italian banks would effectively be bankrupt and to top it all it’s second most important member will have voted to leave?.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Danny Boy
      Great post!

      BTW, a few German banks are too bankrupt according to Max Keiser.

    • avatar
      Joao

      Well said Danny. 25 years ago in Portugal we had some politicians explaining exactly what would happen with our countries if we decided to follow this EU wet dream. They were ridiculed. Time has proven them right..

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Danny, the question is not just what has gone wrong but how to fix it. People with attitude like yours that constantly criticise a bloc of which themselves are members and for whose decisions themselves are responsible had better leave. And btw, I don’t think that the pro-European posts are the ones that pollute this forum. The anti-European ones, like yours, are the ones that use hostile language and name calling. They seem to be fewer in number though…they are just a lot more vocal.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Yasmine, before you can fix something you firstly need to accept that is not working, and the single biggest failure of the EU is its inability to admit it is at fault when things go wrong.
      Brexit is just another example of that, did the EU establishment do anything to try and win over UK voters? no because they clearly didn’t see any need so the EU must be perfect in their eyes. The EU placed the full blame of the Brexit result on Cameron for daring to offer a referendum in the first place, just how arrogant is that?

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Paul, another reading to this is that the EU was too busy with other, a lot more serious problems, such as the migrant crisis and the Greek debt crisis and that it wasn’t interested in the internal affairs of a partner who is creating more problems at a time when help and co-operation is needed in order to resolve already existing ones. The EU would be relieved for the UK to leave at this stage. And, I have to agree that Cameron has got his country into a very difficult situation due to his own actions. A non-legally binding referendum on an issue that Parliamentary approval is needed was drummed up as being supposedly democratic and Cameron verbally committed to implementing the results without checking the legal background on his commitments. I find your whole thinking being based on some kind of bizarre and anti-social national arrogance. You seem to think that everyone should work for the well-being of a particular country. I am not interested in hearing your already-debated and proven as unsubstantiated arguments on why the UK should get a preferential treatment. You can spare yourself the effort of typing them. Or perhaps you just copy and paste them from somewhere…

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Yasmine, yes, I agree it is possible that the EU thought it had more important things to do than deal with than the potential for one of it’s strongest and main contributing countries leaving….but it is my belief that their arrogance just led them to believe it would never happen

      I have not said UK should get preferential treatment (though put more in get more out is usually the way of the world) but I believe the EU contributed a lot to Brexit by completely ignoring what was going on……apart from issuing a few threats that is, which were completely counter productive

      .. ..and i can assure you my posts are all my own work..

    • avatar
      Danny Boy

      Yasmine, these other crises you say the E.U are having to deal with,the Greek and migrant ones,are entirely the result of the E.Us own incompetence.They weren’t imposed on it from the outside,Schengen and the Euro were to blame.When you view it all from the U.K it’s almost like the union are physically incapable of doing anything right.
      And before you accuse me of being ‘anti european’ you should know i’m not lucky enough to be in the UK at the moment.i’m living in Cyprus right in the centre of this car crash.

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Danny, like I said above, when you say EU that includes UK all the way…

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Mind you, when looking at the Brexit referendum, I can’t see that the UK has much competence to display…

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Still banging on about Brexit Yasmine?

      I’m sure you’re probably aware I voted out, and guess what, nothing that has happened so far makes me regret that decision, an opinion shared by many may I add

      The more you go on the more you just sound like someone who is just bitter and twisted because you realise the EU is going to lose a lot more from Brexit than the UK

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Paul. if I really believed in my views, a little delay would not make me regret them or my vote. Realisation of wrongful convictions would…The mere fact that the EU is asking the UK to leave asap and the UK keeps delaying it speaks for itself as to who thinks they have got more to lose. Who wants to rush into financial suicide?

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Unfortunately for you Danny, myself being Greek I am in a position to know that the Greek crisis and the influx of migrants are not entirely disasters of the EU’s making…how they were dealt with by the EU was not satisfactory, but I can’t put my hand on my heart and say that the EU is to blame for their emergence.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Again Yasmine you are just swallowing (and frequently regurgitating) the EU party line, there is no “delay” in the UK triggering Article 50, it is impossible to claim a delay on something that has no defined time.

      As far as I’m concerned it is common sense for the UK to take as long as it wants and to try and put in place as much as possible before triggering the article, because that is when the clock starts ticking and the pressure starts.

      The EU can whine all it wants about so called “delays” but why should the UK disadvantage itself just to appease the EU when clearly once article 50 is triggered the EU is going to do all it can to make things difficult for the UK?

    • avatar
      Danny Boy

      ‘How they were dealt with by the EU was not satisfactory’,my god Yasmine that’s one hell of an understatement.Just answer me this,how far into the third world has Greece got to sink before you have the courage to admit that membership of the euro has been a disaster?
      It’s only a question of time before the bail out funds are stopped and Greece is ejected from the euro and probably from the EU as well.

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Paul, it was yourself who was whining about delays and regretting his vote. You are switching the subject. As usual…

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Danny, borrowing by the Greek government, hiding the debt, not following austerity measures which were a prerequisite for joining the Eurozone, the Greek PM making pro-so-called-refugee public statements and preparing welcome packs in Arabic was a disaster. And, I know that Greece would have sunk even deeper if it hadn’t been for the EU to bail it out. However, these issues were not the purpose of my response to you. My point, and I repeat it, is that the hostile and ugly posts are coming from anti-EU posters and they are in a minority, on this debate, at least.

    • avatar
      Paul X

      @ Yasmime
      “Paul, it was yourself who was whining about delays and regretting his vote. You are switching the subject. As usual…”

      LOL…I really do believe you have either completely lost the plot or you have no real grasp of the English language…..I have never said I regret my vote and it was you that brought up the subject of delays on this thread…feel free to look back (if it isn’t too much effort)……and if you mean that I’m “switching the subject ” to something that is common sense then yes I suppose I am guilty as charged

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Paul, it is sad that your only option now on this debating page is to be sarcastic and insult…however, here is your own comment, which you can also read by scrolling up. I don’t think that language skills is a problem of yours, however, memory definitely is. Perhaps a bad machine that makes scrolling up and down the page difficult as well? Never mind…

      “I’m sure you’re probably aware I voted out, and guess what, nothing that has happened so far makes me regret that decision, an opinion shared by many may I add”

    • avatar
      Paul X

      Yasmine, if you think I’m being insulting then I apologise, but you are completely wrong and have clearly misunderstand the meaning of..
      “nothing that has happened so far makes me regret that decision”

      For clarification, it means I do not regret voting out

    • avatar
      Yasmine

      Ha ha, Paul, so I misread it. I should read your comments more carefully…It may be exactly because nothing has happened that you have nothing to regret. LOL! However, my impressions is that it is people who have nothing to lose that vote this way, so, my guess is that even if something negative did happen, it would not affect you and therefore you would still have nothing to regret. You understand though exactly how much I care about your or any random person’s view simply by the fact that I misread it. In any case, I have astigmatism and it is normal to misread…unfortunately…

    • avatar
      György

      What about free of evil cultures that encourage laziness, that promotes incompetence (because the incompetents are afraid of the competents), that views itself as a gang of thief’s to fool the others and so on? Why not a Europe free of such people?

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Gyorgy. 1stly well done for not using English British etc. in your comment. It shows growth. 2ndly promoting incompetence because the incompetents are afraid of the competents. . . . . . do you see the flaws in that statement? For a start unless you are talking about self promotion (aka the incompetents promote incompetence) then wouldn’t it be more logical to promote competence so the incompetents are less fearful? And if you are talking about self promotion, then how do the incompetent successfully promote something?

    • avatar
      Alex

      @György Wow, is this a comment for the greeks? The international organisations have already admitted that greeks are more hard-working than the average european. Will you stop with the propaganda mate?

  62. avatar
    Bart Viaene

    Paul X : The EU is an experiment of Western-style democracy put into practice. Whether it succeeds or not is not important : it competes with other forms of government and support and can be adopted or rejected by others. I’d say the growing numbers of economic and war refugees clearly demonstrate its attraction to outsiders, whereas that very influx through its open internal borders policy makes wealthy states refuse to participate or induces them to leave.

    Government and support structures are mostly concentric circles around individuals, which has its disadvantages in massive crisis situations. Please read my proposal to enhance them with a “global family” network in my e-book http://www.googlaid.net (the first few pages clearly explain the idea).

    • avatar
      EU reform- proactive

      @Bart Viaene

      be it the EU or Europe:……….“Whether it succeeds or not is not important”????

      Do I understand correctly? Is that how little responsibility and value you attach to the fate of 500 mio lives within the EU & ~300 mio affected outside the EU? You cold bloodily & nonchalantly label such revolutionary events as EXPERIMENT?

      Sometimes i thought the EU bureaucrats gone political berserk- are pawns & serfs to globalism and disrespect & despise the foolish 99%. With a wish to repeat a “Berlin Conference of 1884–85” to cut up Europe like a checkered flag will even shame the staunchest Euro rat.

      Sorry, but that equates to a disconnection matrix to the nth power from reality. A bubble of your own made (mad) utopia! Let me stop here before I find more words.

      But please continue your mission to (no) “youwhere” (alone)- trying to add new dimensions of Phantasmagoria and political surrealism to the EU. They might appreciate it- not me & maybe many others as well.

    • avatar
      Bastian

      “I’d say the growing numbers of … refugees clearly demonstrate its (EU) attraction to outsiders …”

      It is obviously not the EU (Brussels) which attracts the migrants but member states with generous social security benefits like Germany, Sweden, Austria and UK.
      However, many of these migrants remain a burden for years if not for their whole life. The Eurocracy in Brussels with its open door ideology simply endangers the sustainability of the European welfare state.

    • avatar
      EU reform- proactive

      Adding to the above:………….”(EU)- demonstrate its attraction to outsiders …”

      Is that the latest revelation and so difficult to imagine (for aid.net & Co)- knowing the truth about & behind the reasons the developing world is as it is- due to its many, many leadership shortcomings & globalism (previous colonialism) etc?

      Nearly 50% globally will vegetate in fragility, conflict and violence by 2030 (acc to WB) Surely all would choose & wish to come to the developed world (the “global family Headquarters”)- if invited by an unmistakable WELCOME sign. Are “far away” politicians feeling flattered and is that a great compliment they cannot refuse- hoping for the next Novel peace price?

      ~60 million people are today displaced! Should they get a beating by the Taliban- (& show an old wound as proof) you qualify for refugee status in Germany and the most generous service by spinsters & the aging. (“aging Europe!”) Some of the most beautiful pensions in certain areas are fully booked with refugees (sorry tourists) because the refugee business has become the next growth industry. With compliments of spinster Merkel, financed by the taxpayers & maybe the EU Erasmus program- to learn German “in house”. Tourists, please book an adventure vacation to Afghanistan so long.

      Hint: as a disadvantaged in your national state try & aim to become a refugee within your own country- get beaten up- show an old wound- paradise is guaranteed. Have a look:

      http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2016/09/germany-cafe-waldluft-160905101200787.html

  63. avatar
    Bart Viaene

    Joao : agreed. I didn’t discuss the current political state of the EU because it is so clearly deficient in many aspects : not functional in a democratic, not in a social, not even in an… economic way. As I am an eternal positivist, I didn’t want to go there. I was just describing the goals I would like the FUTURE Europe to achieve. How we should get there is basically unimportant to me. I’d certainly advise less states – the source of all evil – and more regions for starters, and also Europe-wide elected political parties, to quickly eradicate state allegiances. Heck, I’d even vote for governmental representatives that are rotated yearly and picked by chance (backed by a specialized administration, of course) ! As long as it helps fight lobby-driven corruption…

    • avatar
      Duncan

      You mean a sort of jury duty styled government draft? Interesting . . . . I believe ancient Greece used a similar system for their senate. It would reduce corruption, but may increase incompetence (already too high) besides, most real power is now deferred to committees researchers and so on. The politicians themselves merely parroting the findings/opinions of others. So not sure that would help without other substantial reforms.

  64. avatar
    catherine benning

    What would you like Europe to look like in 20 years?

    Very close to Switzerland’s direct democracy. With legislation that makes it easier to remove politicians who do not follow a platform they put to the public to enable their election in the first place.

    A return to political parties concerned with promoting ‘quality of life’ as more important than ‘arbeit macht frei.’ Rid of being dominated by a ridiculous US ethos of today and a return to a Franklin Roosevelt sense of spirit and determination.

    The European culture emptied of deviant leanings toward a alien way of life not suited to the people of this continent. Along with the ability to roll back decisions made by deviant global powers who forced the people to accept them without collective their consent.

    To be rid of political correct attitudes and returning to the comfort of believing in those who lead us.

    NATO disbanded and WMD’s extinct.No more third world lifestyle expectations or barbaric attitudes being seen as acceptable to Western lifestyle. Complete debt cancelled with a return to the gold standard, simply with a brush stroke. Harmony restored. All taxes paid to the penny. Only suitable candidates with pure integrity put up for election and those who rigged entry imprisoned with all their assets confiscated and placed in the treasury to be used for the State funding of health and education, etc..

    This being but a few notions that spring to mind off the cuff. I could dribble on for hours though.

    A bit like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUhh3U2BnM

    • avatar
      György

      Just another insidious anti Europeanism: 1) Switzerland’ is absolutely no better than any other, the Swiss themselves are tired of it 2) There is hardly any other place on Earth that is built around the notion of quality of life than mainland Europe

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Gyorgy, what did you see in Catherine’s post that said anything bad about Europe? She was stating her view of what she wants for the future and never badmouthed Europe in doing so.
      @Catherine,”The European culture emptied of deviant leanings toward a alien way of life not suited to the people of this continent”. By this statement, what precisely do you mean?

  65. avatar
    Bart Viaene

    EU-Reform ProActive : if somebody (you ?) comes up with a better “experiment”, I’m pretty sure that BILLIONS will flock to it in a heartbeat – and what’s wrong with that ?

    Societies and cultures ARE subject to Darwin’s laws. The fittest and most adaptable will make it. So I don’t defend a particular system just because it is ours, but please first show me a better one before I stop supporting it.

    • avatar
      EU reform- proactive

      @ Bart Viaene

      * The word “experiment” should never be used in politics & in connection with the human populace!

      * Why?- it reminds some of Dr. Josef Mengele and the experiments during Apartheid- both crimes again humanity- the former under the umbrella of yesterdays “Schutzstaffel”- the latter under total political dominance. Such things should never be allowed by tomorrows gone mad futurists.

      *While Darwin’s law & natural adaption & selection in the WILD- based on total non interference by humans makes sense- it is a questionable theory to adopt & use same by “advanced” humans who unnaturally manipulate everything nature provides. Social evolution & progression to regulate an orderly & fair cohabitation under humans is another matter- not subjected to Darwin.

      I suggest you study “the world happiness report” & draw your own conclusion. Maybe a grouping or several groupings of sovereigns in Europe between near equals would be a better start than your suicidal 1885 chequererd flag approach.

      http://worldhappiness.report/ed/2016/

    • avatar
      György

      @Bart : does it not remind you of the slave trade? You anti Europeans are so shamelessly primitive/transparent that it actually makes it harder to anyone to presume anything good of you.

    • avatar
      Duncan

      @Gyorgy, how can you criticise anyone and everyone who has a different view of what they want for Europe to you as anti-European when they are in fact European. By the fact you are against Europeans having freedom of thought I’d say you are anti-European.
      @Bart, if you want a better model for European Cooperation then I have a few ideas that would work. But they will never be allowed to be implemented. Either by those in power now, or by those that would come afterwards. All I can achieve is giving voice to my opinion on each decision the decision makers put forward as they put them forward. My ideas would all need the political and social systems to be rebuilt from the ground upwards. I believe there is a need for it, but I’m even more certain the work involved would be offputting to those who would see the merits of them.

  66. avatar
    Paulo

    I would Luke to ser the creation of a Political Union. A United States of Europa.

  67. avatar
    SABY Monique

    My possible futurs are :
    1. a Federal Europe, but on an other scale of time
    2. a core of Member States with more integration – security- defence-migration-fiscal union for the Eurozone
    3. a Europe à la carte ou à géométrie variable” you choose what you want for instance the Group of Visegrad.

  68. avatar
    Nick the Greek

    After 20 years, the balance of power in Europe would have shifted to favour Old-Europe. See here: According to these http://www.statista.com/statis… figures – Share of total contributions to the European Union budget in 2015, by Member State…You don’t have to be a Professional politician or monetary fiscal analyst to figure out that the recently formed EUMED group combined, pay more into the EU budget than say, the Germanic group or V4 (dissenting) group.
    See here. The figure’s don’t lie…See them below

    1- EUMED group combined paid 37.93% of EU (2015) budget.

    2- Germanic Europe combined paid 30.36% of EU (2015) budget.

    3- V4 (dissenting) group combined paid 5.47% of EU (2015) budget.

    4- The (non allied) rest, combined, paid 33.14% of EU (2015) budget.

    And according to these figure’s http://statisticstimes.com/eco… You don’t have to be a Professional Politician to figure out that the recent formation of EUMED group introduces new dynamic into European Union politics. The getting together of France, Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Cyprus and Malta changes the balance (economic) power in the EU and EuroZone area. Money speaks. And what it is saying is this…

    The combined GDP of recently formed EUMED group = $ 5,985, 656 Billions

    The combined GDP of (dissenting) V4 group = $ 866,296 Billions

    The combined GDP of Germanic Europe = $ 4,849,678 Billions

    The combined GDP of Sweden Norway Denmark = $ 1,181,405 Billions

    Analysis of above data sends out very strong clear message. Clearly, the creation of EUMED group brings new dynamic to European Union politics. It has led to professional politicians and diplomats alike having to make ‘balance of power’ calculations, in order factor in, which group in the EU yields the most [[economic][hard][soft]] power.

    So lets start here: The population of the European Union is currently 508 Million peoples. More importantly: The population of the EuroZone, is currently 339,700,602 peoples. This is where ‘balance of power’ calculations come into play.

    1- The EUMED population group = 195,684 Million peoples contribute €5,329,110

    2- The Germanic population group = 111,430 Million peoples contribute €4,317,734

    3- The V4 population group = 64,370 Million peoples contribute €771,275

    From the (calculations) figures above, (links provided previously) one can deduce instantly, that the EUMED group yields the balance of power.

    Old-Europe. Mediterranean Europe. Greeks, Latins, Kelts. Reclaim Evropi. Redefine Europe.

    • avatar
      EU reform- proactive

      Hi Nick, did you notice- your references are not verifiable!

      “Error 404 – Page not found
      This URL is currently not available. Please try to use our search to find your desired content. You may also contact our support for further help.”

  69. avatar
    sofia simitzi

    The twenty seven Member States who wish to remain in the European Union held in Bratislava a separate session that without the United Kingdom. They had to reflect on their common plan, but were content to regurgitate the same words and mottos. But the world is changing. Rapidly and globally The United Kingdom seems adjusted. The European Union is stagnating in confusion unlike the large and important European history
    Finally, the Bratislava summit showed the will of 27 does not change anything seriously in the EU. According to EU everything can continue as before. So, we can continue in the same naive way to “combat problems as immigration, violence, domestic poverty and unemployment”. Dear friends EU is in Decline and we should do something in real terms and in all levels (political,educational,financially,legally,etc).I strongly believe that EU citizens, us deserve the best and EU is a great place to live.

  70. avatar
    Monique Saby

    At the summit, the Visegrad Group (V4), consisting of Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, submitted an appropriately-titled Joint Statement consisting of proposals for the future of the Union after Brexit.

    Unsurprisingly, the document calls for strengthening the role of the European Council, where member states sit, as well as of national parliaments. In the chapter on migration, the Visegrad Four call for halting the uncontrolled flow of migrants and for strengthening the EU’s external borders.

    New buzz word

    “Migration policy should be based on the principle of the ‘flexible solidarity’. This concept should enable member states to decide on specific forms of contribution taking into account their experience and potential. Furthermore, any distribution mechanism should be voluntary,” the Visegrad group states.

    Under the plan, a “flexible solidarity mechanism” would be introduced, taking into account the “potential and experience” of each member state when deciding on the number of refugees it could accept.

    Slovakia recently showcased a bilateral project with Austria, in the city of Gabčíkovo, as an example of “flexible solidarity”. There, Slovakia is providing accommodation and food to Syrian refugees, who have applied for refugee status in Austria.

  71. avatar
    Ivan Burrows

    .

    It will be exactly what it is now, a peninsula of the Eurasian continent containing 51 Nation States.

  72. avatar
    Stefania Portici

    guardate quanto è bella l’Europa. <3 il neoliberismo sta distruggendo tutto. Venti anni non bastano per porre fine al neoliberismo e fine a tutta la parte fisica che lo attua : WTO, FMI, il CLUB , i lobbisti o suggeritori , Think Thanks, gli speculatori internazionali, il codex alimentarius, le multinazionali del farmaco e tante altre diavolerie compresa che la UE che gli va dietro. Fine

    look how beautiful Europe. neo-liberalism is destroying everything. Twenty years is not enough to put an end to neoliberalism and goal of all the physical part of implementing it: WTO, IMF, the CLUB, lobbyists or prompters, Think Thanks, international speculators, Codex Alimentarius, the multinational drug companies and many other devilry including the EU that goes behind. en

  73. avatar
    José Bessa da Silva

    I would love see Europe calling itself by it’s right name, which is Eurasia, a continent with several independent and friendly nations that have no political ties with each other beyond the usual diplomatic ties due in any relation between independent states! From Portugal to Japan, a huge and diverse continent, many cultures, many states, many nations, many capitals, no wars, no supranational institutions, nor corrupt federalist attempts, no EU!

  74. avatar
    Yannick Cornet

    Visions matter. I want Europe to continue being the most progressive place on Earth. A leader in sustainability from an environmental perspective, and a leader in nurturing diversity from a social perspective.

  75. avatar
    Alvise Dal Ri

    An actual semi centralised country that respects its own past and humanist principles.

  76. avatar
    Reimant

    I say Europe must be a Country with law, One President, one parliament, one military, one Economy, one budget, but every country would still have its government with additional law, its own culture, with would be treated with attention. Until one united world there hundreds of years will pass, so we must stand close to each other to take all challenge that comes from unfair policy.

  77. avatar
    Spyros Kourtis

    If only it would be a federal entity… but if European leaders continue the same political tactics as today…then there will be no Europe left.. we need ACTIONS to face the alien dangers and solidarity to protect the sovereignity of the european states.

  78. avatar
    Yanni Sfyrides

    Not so lightfull at nights,more natural more GREEN / Economy/ Energy/ in real less polluted,more united-

  79. avatar
    Belamie Versco

    if you keep on pushing the competitive economy forward there will be no planet earth in 20 years worth living on, because cancer will be the common disease at age 30. ;)

  80. avatar
    Andre

    Most likely, one Euro hurt in consequence of the crisis which we live. If there really Euro in 20 years. Because if this way continue. It will not last more than a decade. Also probably they just don’t miss an end of crush and collapse the peripheral Countries. One thing I take for sure this euro has to be reinvented, or the end might come much earlier.

  81. avatar
    Julia Hadjikyriacou

    Poverty is abolished in the EU with a more social and equal EU. Workforce standards and wages are raised in non-EU trading countries. And finally the mega-rich and mega-corporations pay their substantial taxes. Green energy. Saving the environment. Peace.

  82. avatar
    Patricio

    switching off street lights at night?

  83. avatar
    Oli Lau

    free from this ever growing bureaucratic monster. It was supposed to be freedom, not these endless series of regulations.

  84. avatar
    Franck Néo Legon

    Europe ? The same, with its seas and mountains. EU ? Should be erased to leave place to a new European Alliance where each country is sovereign while colaborating with its neighbours.

  85. avatar
    Andrej Němec

    A European Federation of Regions. “Nationals States” should be abolished (They don’t represent the different existing Nations).
    -Centralised Government, a Common language (possibly English), a Federal Taxation System taxing individuals instead of Member States paying their contribution.
    – Pan – European media, news, police, army, educational system. – European single citizenship and passport.

  86. avatar
    Zisis Poimenidis

    Unless the democratic deficit of Europe disapeears, we are going to face a much smaller EU. (Assuming that Europe still exists after 20 years).

  87. avatar
    Shahadat Bablu Hossain

    I wish and like to see European as her own way , equal economical and social distributions, every where productivity no junk products import from china or else where, all European technology must be protected with the law, avoiding copying by the Chinese!!!
    In 10 to 20 we may see the European will loos their monopoly on world cars market and others technical products market!!!

  88. avatar
    Luchian Mdm

    I would like it to be A free of terrorism united technological driven society with high secure borders, united strong army, gender equality ,who values ecology more than corporation profits (for that we need to avoid making any deals with the americans on ttip, see the huge fine imposed on Deutsche bank, The USA only intends to use the TTIP to bankrupt european companies with huge fines to support us profits and budget deficits)

  89. avatar
    Luchian Mdm

    But if is lead by the current insane leaders, Europe will be a divided continent with the west highly islamized creeping with terrorist acts, women stoned to death and the eastern countries Poland, Hungary,Slovakia, Serbia, croatia, bulgary Czech Republic and Austria in a new economic and institutional organization in somewhat better cooperation with Russia, following the destruction of the west by illeterate, violent extremist terrorist your traitorous leaders are importing based on their delusional Caudenhove Kalergi FAILED agenda.

  90. avatar
    Giossas Kostas

    Eu is finished is failled….soon we will be back in national boarders and we ll clean our countries from corrupted politicians,bankers and islam invaders.europe is not usa,everyone of us is proud for his own country,we never became a coulture tuttifrutti like america

  91. avatar
    Tony Muñiz

    On the path it is on now it will be a once stable continent turned into 3rd world. Where Europeans are forced to accept their genocide.

  92. avatar
    Lynne Warner

    Like it did 20 years ago. Each country complete with its own culture, manufacturers, special clothing made in that country and less Chinese plastic rubbish and pathetic wear it once clothing.

  93. avatar
    John

    Definitely not to allow Turkey in the EU ever!! EU should create its own army and protect its borders from barbarians like Turks

  94. avatar
    Seán Rohan

    Fededral, United, no American or Russian troops in Europe, 1 European Army with no NATO, England (&Wales) out but Scotland in and a united Ireland

  95. avatar
    Christina Pontiki

    First of all…!!! Europe weak up !!! Look what happen now not in 20 years!!! You think so much migration in our days is trivial?

  96. avatar
    Towards United States of Europe

    In 20 years I would like to see this Europe: solid, traditional. white, no black people, no Arabs, no Afghans, no non-Caucasian people, only native Europeans, becoming younger and younger, having more children, less debt. I would also like to see less governmental interventions, less welfare, more pure market mechanisms, less bureaucracy, less EC-regulations, more traditional values, more emphasis on Christianity. I would like to see prosperous Europe. The EU regulations are smothering innovation and creating new businesses because citizens are afraid of the massive European Comission bureaucracy.

  97. avatar
    Jokera Jokerov

    A cozy Chrisyian place for white people where the idea of a EU is stigmatized like Nazism and Communism.

  98. avatar
    Joao Antonio Camoes

    it will depend on oil market. More depending on oil less Europe. Less depending on oil, lesser the capacity to change Europe.

  99. avatar
    Pearl Morton

    The restoration of law an order would be a miracle , cant even trust the governments to stand against criminals and put the money where its needed , dread to think of europe in 20yrs time ; needless to say it wont improve

  100. avatar
    Marco Musazzi

    It is likely to be a very old country, probably even more diverse than it is now, because of poor economic performance and gentrification of the “periphery”.

  101. avatar
    John Vincent

    united but with more power and recognition given to its regions. Centralisation has not been a democratic success for the nation state or for the union.

    • avatar
      Ivan Burrows

      .

      What if the peoples of the EU do not want your US of E ? will you invade them ?

    • avatar
      Hector Niehues-Jeuffroy

      What don’t you understand about the word “peaceful”? No, by all means, no. We have had at least one country with a euro-skeptic majority in the Union for more than 40 years and they are just a constant drag on integration. It’s like having a member in a soccer club who hates soccer and just wants everybody to play golf… doesn’t make sense and isn’t fun.

    • avatar
      Ivan Burrows

      Hector Niehues-Jeuffroy

      No answer then, just insults, you really are the perfect EU extremist aren’t you.

    • avatar
      Hector Niehues-Jeuffroy

      Are you sure that English is your first language? There is no insult whatsoever in my previous comment, just a rhetorical question and the answer to your question. Please do read again.

  102. avatar
    Ivan Burrows

    .

    The EU will suffer the same fate as the other crazed European ideologies that tried to unite Europe, it will be consigned to the dustbin of history.

    Nazism, Fascism, Communism & now Europeanism, only the colour of the flag changes.

    • avatar
      Graziano Paul Mare

      Your comments seem to recall a golden age of peace and prosperity between the European countries. That was never the case. Long live the EU. God save the EU

    • avatar
      Ivan Burrows

      Graziano Paul Mare

      There as never been a’golden age of peace and prosperity’ in Europe, there is always some lunatic trying to unite it, the British people know this better than anyone else as it is the British who usually have to stop you.

      You EU extremists have learnt nothing from your history and this time you are on your own. .

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

  103. avatar
    Michael Šimková

    I would say take a bit of American economic dynamism, a dash of Singaporean peacefulness, a bit of Norwegian good sense and smidgen of Danish social net, add perhaps a sprinkle of Japanese quirkiness.

    • avatar
      Hector Niehues-Jeuffroy

      You really don’t want to miss out on those tentacle monsters, don’t you? :D

  104. avatar
    Seán Rohan

    Federal Europe. 1 European Army. No England. Scotland a member and united Ireland. No American or Russian troops on European soil. Stopping racist, sexist, homophobic , islamophobic etc policies in some Eastern countries such as Hungary and Poland.

  105. avatar
    Rosy Forlenza

    I would like to go back to united in difference. I would like there to be laws that are non negotiable (working rights, ban zero hours contracts, proper protection for all women and children that is implemented irrespective of religion or culture). But I would like more transparency and respect for the democratic process And some common sense, not all bureaucracy is bad so we should be learning from each other, anglosphere countries are easier for sole traders and small start ups, so no one should be charging VAT under a gross income of 25-30k for starters, on the other hand, Italy has (believe it or not) some good common sense laws regarding pet ownership and registration, it also provides good safety nets for vulnerable adults and children, and better protection for tenents (this is a fine line of course but no vulture funds here and I am not sorry when I look at chaos created in London and now Dublin). This would equalize east and west north and south in terms of wealth and migration within the EU, and yes temporary suspension of Schengen during high alerts like we have at the moment.

  106. avatar
    Ricardo Pereira

    Free of fossil fuels. One government with direct democracy. More investment in science, health and education.

  107. avatar
    Joseph Bartolo

    We should be not a european union that has competition with other blocks, but rather a global union, that works for all people that has a cooprative union together for the every person, to live in Peace, Prosperity and Harmony with each other and end all the bad that has been destroying Humanity and our Earthly home.

  108. avatar
    Maria Niedernhuber

    1. Mandatory exchange year in another EU country in high school

    2. unified sockets

    3. EU expats who move to another EU country get citizenship-like right and get a right to vote in this country

    4. UK still in the EU

    5. Parliament holds more power than Council

  109. avatar
    Ivan Burrows

    .

    As an entry in the history books like its predecessors, Nazism, Fascism and Communism.

  110. avatar
    Serge-Arno Klumper

    I would like a European Union with a federal structure, à European Parliament with some MEPs elected through transnational lists, a common army, a larger EU budget spent on education and research, a education system introducing foreign languages at primary level, an exchange of teachers between national systems, … a common foreign policy, a truely common development policy with all national DFIs merged into one single entity European Development Bank as part of the EIB group … well I better stop here …

  111. avatar
    Παυλος Χαραλαμπους

    More Democratic with cleaner environment were all it’s citizens are equal to the law and have dissent homes and jobs… But I have to say that I don’t see this day going…

    • avatar
      Tom Bentley

      Where would you rather live? India, China? Give me Europe any day of the week. Britain is just a grey dirty little island with no power of relevance in the world. Even the USA like Germany better. The UK is lost in the world and seems rather broken and bitter and hates Europe as Europe is the new Empire whereas Britain no longer has an Empire and even splitting within its own shores with Scotland and Wales wanting to break free..

    • avatar
      Tom Bentley

      All your talking and graphs just indicate your jelous hatred of a larger and better place – Pro-Europeanism EU OK

    • avatar
      Tom Bentley

      Ivan Burrows – Fastest growing in Fast food and poor payed zero hour contract jobs. Countries like Germany do things proper like real manufacturing jobs with big incomes. Britains economy is shopping and fast food and this will crash the UK economy as when people dont spend there is no back up! I bet it annoys you that at the back of your mind you know Germany economy is twice the size of the UK’s ;)

  112. avatar
    Yordan Vasilev

    High level technological, open for the competent specialists by other regions, more democratic and richer.

  113. avatar
    Chris Pavlides

    Advanced, human oriented ie low social gaps-friction, towards zero emission footprint. Raw model for others.

  114. avatar
    Denis Dion Ioannopoulos

    Προοδευτική, μεγαλύτερη, όμορφη και πάντα η κοιτίδα πολιτισμού σε όλα τα επίπεδα.

  115. avatar
    Tom Bentley

    Where would you rather live? India, China? Give me Europe any day of the week. Britain is just a grey dirty little island with no power of relevance in the world. Even the USA like Germany better. The UK is lost in the world and seems rather broken and bitter and hates Europe as Europe is the new Empire whereas Britain no longer has an Empire and even splitting within its own shores with Scotland and Wales wanting to break free..

  116. avatar
    Γεώργιος Δανιηλίδης

    Ιn 20 years Europe to be a free continent with social justice and educated citizens living in peace in a similar World.A simple easy task today officials- politicians in power are fighting to avoid to keep their privileges.

    • avatar
      Dóris Cavalcanti

      It’s enough with less brainless people like you.

    • avatar
      Jean-Pierre Rosa

      Dóris Cavalcanti seeing a racist dumb ass accusing someone of being brainless … is rather precious.

    • avatar
      Dóris Cavalcanti

      Jean-Pierre Rosa Racist? I just know well my people, my culture, my race and I’m not a liar to hide how much harmful most of them can be to a place and its people like Europe. About dumb ass, that you you call your mother who didn’t give any education to teach pos like you to respect others who have different opinion.

    • avatar
      Tony Muñiz

      Doris… It’s ok for blacks to call for black power. It’s ok for latinos to call for latino pride. It’s ok for muslims to force their ideology on us. But you say white pride and your a racist. Thanks to ignorant asses like our unineuron friend calling you a racist. What is happening now is the genocide of the peoples of Europe. If it was inversed and happening in Africa, they would be screaming at top of their lungs against it. Kalergi plan is full speed ahead.

    • avatar
      Dóris Cavalcanti

      Tony Muñiz I know and that is why I don’t shut up, I’m latin and I don’t want Europe to become(even more) a hell mess hole like 3rd. world countries are just because of their people with their decadent cultures and behaviors.

  117. avatar
    Rosy Forlenza

    and to remember it works for its people and not for U.S corporations, CETA is as worrying as TTIP (which the Trumpet hasn’t kicked into touch only TTP which doesn’t concern us). If we want social justice then these two trade deals in their present form will certainly work very hard to undermine it.

  118. avatar
    Andreas St.

    United in diversity as far as culture is concerned, more homogenous as far as economics are concerned, more democratic (new models of direct democracy can be designed and implemented), international peacekeeper on external politics level, more unified in internal politics (a flexible federal system is what’s needed) and lastly greener.

    • avatar
      Tim Finnerty

      Nice

  119. avatar
    Anton Mihiș

    Hopefully strong, peaceful and united, but with each state having a strong identity and with european rules made by european citizens, for european citizens, not dictated and not by or for anyone else…

  120. avatar
    Peter

    Hopefully, it will be an effective republican nation state working for its citizens, in better relationships to England, Russia, Turkey and the Arab States than nowadays. And let’s hope for the rest of European states including self-determined Greater London, Scotland and United Ireland as prosperous future EU members.

    • avatar
      Joao Carlos Alves Henriques Branco

      jean what a inteligent comment u just made, reflection of what u are. “idiot and a disapoint ” who did u disapoint jean?

    • avatar
      Jean-Pierre Rosa

      Joao Carlos Alves Henriques Branco intelligence? You speak of intelligence? You spew utter nonsense, your page is full of stupidity and hateful garbage and you bring up intelligence ? Ahahahah

    • avatar
      Jean-Pierre Rosa

      Joao Carlos Alves Henriques Branco you can’t even use a spell check, dumbass!

    • avatar
      Jean-Pierre Rosa

      Joao Carlos Alves Henriques Branco facho de merda, escumalha PNR nojenta…. cala-te imbecil. Metes nojo e o melhor é os memes americanos! Pensas que és o quê pah? Queres armas? Questionas 9/11? Mas que nível de idiota és tu ?

    • avatar
      Joao Carlos Alves Henriques Branco

      nao queremos ca traidores. volta para arabia saudita. invazores e traidores nao irao vencer face aos portugueses. venceremos.

  121. avatar
    Koen

    What I hope: the EU has turned into a federation with world leading standards, social, technological and moral. The European Parlement is the democratic watchdog and can initiate legislation. Foreign affairs, economic affairs, defense, all these issues are European issues now.
    Leaders and governments of nation states have become less important.
    The different cultures of the nation states have become less important as well, as we finally start seeing what unites us is greater than what separates us.

    What I fear: A dismantled union in which no real decision is taken and used as a scapegoat for national governments incompetence (or even worse: malice) to hide behind. Nationalism and protectionism is the main theme in politics.

    Hope to be wrong in my fear though!

  122. avatar
    Kajetan

    We have to fend off populist attacks and russian propaganda at first

  123. avatar
    Tom Bentley

    I love this website! It really makes me proud of being part of the BEST part of the world!

  124. avatar
    Irmeli Mattsson

    In 20 years Europe will be a smoothly functioning entity, where the different countries have strong, coherent national identities. There is free commerce between the countries inside EU. But people cannot move without passport control from country to country. There exist better functioning restrictions to immigration. Capacity to integrate well to the way of functioning in one’s new country is required. Maybe the means to integrate the immigrants have become more evolved also.

  125. avatar
    EU citizen

    I like the expression “common goodwill of the European Union” posted by someone in the comments. On a personal note, I think what is common, to all people, not just the EU, is our planet, Earth. Everything in a democracy is political, nothing is common unless by law. Changes are indeed happening fast, new technologies are emerging and taking over. If we want to keep up with it all, the decisions we make should be wise and meaningful.

  126. avatar
    eusebio manuel vestias pecurto vestias

    The new European future generations want jobs and opportunities The central objective goes beyond the free market The common values enshrined in the charter of human rights and environmental social norms are essential because a supranational budget is absolutely true for a large europe

  127. avatar
    Stefan

    In my opinion EU is and is going to be a key player in balancing the global checks and balances in a very complex and competitive global environment. Economic integration and enhancing basic civil rights worldwide will be the most challenging tasks for our continent in the years to come.

    • avatar
      Matej Zaggy Zagorc

      Highly unlikely, to be honest. Anyone pushing for that will likely cause a nationalist backlash like the one we’re seeing right now.

    • avatar
      Francio Marco

      Ivan Burrows please explain me, if we are the fanatics why are you spending all the day (and all the days) on this facebook page. I give a look on this page few times a year and you are always, really always, here. Who is the fanatic?

    • avatar
      Stella Kontogianni

      Ivan Burrows Remember that in USA they had a civil war before they became the head of world

    • avatar
      AJ Nemec

      So you people advocate for the destruction of different cultures and ethnicities. How mentally fucked up you people are by advocating for a United States of Europe

    • avatar
      Francio Marco

      AJ Nemec “destruction of different cultures and ethniticies”. Less sci-fi movies please…

    • avatar
      Carmelo A. Costanza

      It’s been an aspiring goal from a continent ravaged over dynastic wars for millenias into a peaceful, Democratic, and progressive continent. Evidently, there is always criticism on a new project, as the European one. Yet, it is not always a perfect experiment, it’s a progress and when required, to be institutionally reformed, as opposed to taking the cowardly approach of exiting while at the same time cherry picking and wanting the benefits and spoils of the European Common Market. Apologies, doesn’t work both ways, you’re in or out. Destiny and history will determine whether sovereign choice was either a diligent or an ignorant one.

    • avatar
      Ivan Burrows

      Carmelo A. Costanza

      Who wants to cherry pick ?, you can keep your migrant crisis, the Euro crisis, your banking crisis, your agricultural crisis, the democratic deficit crisis and the misery you have heaped onto millions of people across the EU.

      The only question left is ‘who will leave next ?’

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36471989

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    Carmelo A. Costanza

    A more progressive, stronger, integrated, dignified, tolerant, prosper, enduring, peaceful and less bureaucratic Europe.

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      Maria Rodrigues

      Ivan Burrows I think that the way to end european crises is federation. We need a strong leadership to do so. Merkle is an opportunist that changes her opinion as fast as she can to get votes. She has no thought or ideology. USA, Turkey and Russia are taking our breath. We must be united to survive. Do you understand me, Ivan Burrows?

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      Maria Rodrigues

      Ivan Burrows you are assuming a wrong perspective. That’s not more of it, but better of it.

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      Artur Silva

      Why do you care Ivan ? The UK is leaving the EU. It does not concern you anymore.

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      Maria Rodrigues

      I hope some how we can revert the Brexit and UK can be one of us again.

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      Francio Marco

      Bruxelles have created migrant crisis? Too many pints…

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      Maria Rodrigues

      Ivan Burrows what people? Who is destroying the nations in the EU?

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      Jean-Pierre Rosa

      Maria Rodrigues just ignore the fake profile troll.

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      Pieter Blond

      Hey Ivan, have a Snickers.

      The EU is fine. It has its flaws and is certainly a work in progress but it is far less expensive than the US federal government and far less expensive still than having 27 little countries each making their own rules and trade deals with their own bureaucracies.

      I am curious too. Why do you insult a friendly neighbour who is about 5 times your size and will now determine the terms upon which you can trade with it almost unilaterally?

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      Pieter Blond

      Stop reading opinions from deluded novelists. Here is some facts about your so called poverty machine:

      The EU economy is the largest single market in the world with a nominal GDP of over 16.000 billion and a GDP p/capita of 35.000 USD.

      In 1990, 26 years ago and before the Maastricht Treaty, the Euro and the expansion to the east the nominal GDP was 7500 million, less than half of that.

      Since then Southern and Eastern Europe have enjoyed unprecedented levels of economic development and investment. Hundreds of millions have been lifted out of poverty and joined the middle class.

      We enjoy 20 days of paid holidays, we receive affordable health care and higher education. We can travel freely across the continent for 50 euros return flight and most people do so several times a year.

      Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Holland, Austria, Belgium: all those countries enjoy higher living standards than the UK which performs about as well as socialist France.

      The UK is one if the countries that has benefited most from the EU and trading in it. Its GDP has grown 103% since it joined, more than Germany (+99% ), US (+97%) and France (+74%). UK median income increased by 76% compared to only 16% median income growth in the US.

      I could go on.

      We are Europeans, we have waved enough flags to realise it never leads to any good aside from great football.

      I wish you a nice day.

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    Mircea Stefan

    Without arabs, blacks, indians, pakistany and gypsies! This way, Europe would be clean and without terrorist, robberies and rapes!

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      Joaquim M Pinto

      In a cinema near you starting with Italy and France

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      Francio Marco

      Maybe France, in Italy some politicians are promising a referendum but only to catch votes because our constitution don’t give the permission to organize a referendum to decide about international themes. So they have to win elections clearly, change constitution, win a referendum about reform of constitution and than, finally, win the referendum about leaving EU. Result: impossible. Fortunatly.

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      Francio Marco

      Yes for sure Ivan UK will benefit with brexit, pound has lose power after referendum and this, for anche Isle that import more that export, is clearly an advantage.

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      Francio Marco

      Far right parties are coming out of sewers but, like after the second world war, first or after, will come back in those

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      Joaquim M Pinto

      What far right parties? It’s not only about that like brexit was not voted mainly by the reasons that everybody says when they generalise. Don’t forget about lexit. People are not sleeping anymore a German Europe isn’t everybody dream as it’s not a centralised power in bruxelles. We are very different it will never work and we don’t want to lose sovereignty to the economic power. So keep dreaming cause change is coming.

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    Georgia Sigala

    UNITED! And earlier than 20 years please. We have the technological capacity and citizen sophistication, to create a beautiful continent!

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    Andrew Potts

    A Europe of defined countries where we co operate in our collective interests yet tolerate that we are different. A Europe that starts with family’s, communities, regions and countries that are confident and healthy. We owe a debt to the generations before us to maintain our European culture, for this the EU must change from its one world view.

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    Francio Marco

    If it’ll resist to this wave of crisis, populism and egoism of both governments and people, it’ll be a confederation of states with a united politic strategy. But now I seriously doubt it’ll do. I hope.

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    Artur Silva

    Why do you care what happens to the EU in the future Ivan Burrows? The UK is leaving, why are you attempting to foist your opinion on us?

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      Artur Silva

      He is just someone on the ukip role. Or at least he acts thusly

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    Yanni Sfyrides

    ΤHIS Europe in your photo is like a burning Europe- Artificial light -pollution of the atmosphere everywhere- A) We like a GREEN EUROPE using ,solar,wind,sea /etc power B) a more united in terms of a common Constitution law/legal document common borders,common foreighn policy common Defence- Expand in depth .

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    Dimitris Stamiris

    I would like to see every nation deferent than the others !!! Every nation had the own economy and Greece in freedom from Germany

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      Dimitris Stamiris

      keep watching german tv in your country and believe it …. do not bilieve us wen we say tha we had pay the debt 5 times …do not belive that we work more hrs than anyone … do not believe that we pay 4 times more taxes than you …… stay sheep !!!! beeeeeeeee

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      Dimitris Stamiris

      we are liers wen we ask for german factories to pay taxes in greece ,,,, many more to explain you why you are sheep and you follow your killer

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    Julia Hadjikyriacou

    Guaranteed minimum income, compulsory fair-trade products, renewable energy, no tax for workers, tax the mega-rich, interest-free loans for ordinary people, interest only charged to corporations and mega-rich, grants for new business ideas, fair international negotiations and actions for peace, no nuclear weapons.

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      Fran Vončina

      Julia, I am a “ordinary people”. Care to loan me some money interest-free ? 👏

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      Julia Hadjikyriacou

      Jose, I am sure the EU think tank can find a solution to tax the mega rich and corporations.

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      Julia Hadjikyriacou

      Fran, Islamic banking has interest free loans because charging interest is against their religion. And their banks are still profitable. Many economists are studying the Islamic banking model. Anything is possible as long as there is will followed by action. Strangely charging interest (usury) is not allowed in Christianity either. But I read somewhere that the Pope changed all that. Just do internet research on anything and you will be surprised to find people around the world have researched and studied it.

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    Wendy Harris

    If things continue as they are then I think Europe will be at war. Separatists fighting federalists. Christians fighting Muslims. Fascists from the right fighting fascists from the left. Europe is a powder keg and about as far away from the Utopia some people dream of than it has ever been.

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    eusebio manuel vestias pecurto vestias

    I agree European Union in the United States

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    Marcus Costa

    Hope we continue like we were before this fake EU took place, hope our safety and security wont be compromised by those who don’t want to be here and hate Europa, hope my children will be as proud as i am for being Portuguese, or Spanish or Italian,.. Hope those politicians understand that north and southern Europa are too different, and it’s inside that differences, that turned out to be similarities that we lived together in peace and harmony for more than half a century, and before that what always started wars here was politics, ya that poison!! And finally, i would like that we Europeans, from Portugal to Russia all have the happiest and safest 2017 and so on. We deserve it!!

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    Monique Saby

    Unfortunetaly EU must face different challenges, mainly unemployment, public debt, rise of populism, migration,the dissapointment of the european citizens regarding the politicians. But we are at the end of a model “the social paradigm” and the values of this paradigm. For the moment these values are finance and globalization and profit. What could happend ? A Federal Union is an option but it means a loss of sovereignty. It could also work with a core of Member States. A desintegration of UE for a free market is an other possible. Now it is time to think about a deepening of EU before others enlargment. We may have a common security and defence Union, a circular economy and of course a sustainable developement, a tax Tobin…The circular economy and sustainable development will be able to create new jobs as well as an innovativing economy .

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    Fernando De Rojas Parets

    A real federation of countries and regions, with the same law, taxes and social system. Without beurocracy and corruption. With a common democratic government elected by citizens. No more EU Comission of servants, influences, corrupted politicians and people that has not been elected by the European Voters.

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    Chris Pavlides

    From Atlantic to Ural 1 advance edu-system, 1 fair tax & finance, a place were local competitive advantages are developed further & mutual gaps were bridged with respect between valuable partners. A really earth & human centric continent where there is space for fast & slow. For technology and tradition. For privacy & exposure. A place that highly respects child hood & the rights of parents. Todays friction is just a waste of life & tangible proof of failure.

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    Marian Nicuriuc

    With a harsher process regarding immigration, cut off benefits for people coming from other countries and not willing to work, strict control over language skills and increased opportunistes for those who really look for them and work their hands off!
    A cleaner environment with lots of innovations, non pollution technique in all areas !

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    Rosita Allinckx

    Complete financial Transparency, more involvement for jounalists, more involvement with people with real debates, not something like this …. this is giving people a false feeling of involvement, get real!
    transparency for the state, privacy for people, one government, no borders, a parliament that works, corrupt free, more involvement with civil,society

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    Wendy Harris

    People should be careful what they wish for. It took a bloody civil war to achieve the United States of America and 750,000 deaths. The difference now is that we can obtain dirty bombs to throw at each other. The tree-huggers ought to be a little more concerned about that than some of the things that bother them.

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    Pavlos Papathanasiou

    In 20 years from now I would like to see more Freedom, Social Justice and Cohesion for the Peoples of Europe! Hence a Europe without this terrible, inhuman and corrupted EU!!!

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    Ariste Arvanitides

    islamists go home, rebuild their countries, Europe rebuilds itself with better infrastructure, and Russia is included in EE. They are our nearest neighbors.

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    Bob

    Something like nazi germany
    History repeats itself

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      Matt Czapliński

      What’s wrong with left wing my dear friend? What does it mean for you to be a left winger? Changes? Islam? That categorising seems to be very limited you know?

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      Paschalis Bourletsikas

      Matt Czapliński i don’t know if you have realised how Europe is going down the drain led by the pan socialism movement

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      Paschalis Bourletsikas

      That’s impossible. As humans we would replace a belief with another…

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    Ante Radnić

    With sharia laws. Because then they will remove all leftards who invited them in first place.

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    Matteo Magnus Magni

    For build a more united europe we need
    1)Common defence policy
    2)Common Foreign policy
    3)Euro for all countries
    4)European constitution
    5)Penal laws common
    6)Common Welfare( with German Model)
    7)Admission of New Countries with these standard
    8)Re admission after 2020 like I think of England
    9)Common Health Law
    10)Common Environment Law
    11)Agrrements with China,India and LAtin American countries for avoiding USA
    12)Creation of our internet for not more depending from USA 13)Common cultural wealth policy

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      Vadim Gruzdev

      And some politicians like British ones will tell that EU impose too much austerity or dictatorship… and they will ask for independence from Belgian beaurocracy! :/ I agree tho.

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    Sebastiano Schavoir

    Federal, promoting technology, research and tech/AI education more than social sciences, strong partnership with Russia and North America, and heavy infrastructure investments made in North Africa and Middle East. It goes without saying that a federal EU has its own defense capability and federal government (like Germany, Belgium, Italy or many others). I would also enjoy seeing, rather than 28 flags for each nation, hundreds of flags, for each region or whatever entities may form.
    Nevertheless, 99% of what I want is implicit in the word “federal”. One speed or two speed, as long as a federal core leads by examples and results.

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      David Moody

      Yes, we need to delete all nations & replace them with one nation called EU. Why do they have to be so secretive about it all though? They will get massive support if they just come out of the closet with their real plans.

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    Thanos Ioannidis

    Transparent and decentralized decision centers. Sovereign states/nations that collaborate peacefully with common goals. Liberal Democracy and a Commonwealth of Nations. (Support Diem25)

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    Tom Kuilder

    It will look like the Islamic caliphate, with all its exotic splendor. Celebrate diversity, vote Merkel.

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    Josepha Guillaume

    Closed borders, new leadership not under bank rule, green clean energy, our culture back and working together with Russia

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    Mohammad Azher

    Angela Merkel is absolutely right. EU doesn’t require anemy neiher requires to pay other countries to defend Eu. EU 2% contributions mean $280 billions in USA pokets. $280 Billions is a lot of amount. Russian spends $60billions, chinese $150 billions anually. EU can have powerful enough army in $280billions of annually spending. Besides $280 would create EU arm industry. Like US and UK Russians, chinese making billions after selling arms to Other countries, bringing financial benifits for European unions. EU must stand on their feets rather beings in wheel chairs. World creates a Lot if Jobs.

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    Ginster Plantagenet

    EU should become a union, with a united policy for foreign affairs, for financial issues and development, especially a strict control on this gambling banks. The taxing of US companies should finally take place and I hope TTIP will not be established. I would like to see EU states united who want to, those nationalist leaders like Poland and Hungarian can stay aside. We don’t need war mongers. I can only hope Austria will have a clear outcome on election. I hope the France/Germany alliance will develop more, that means peace for all of us.

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    Jude De Froissard

    Why wait…..mire democracy…more equality…. more respect for humans rather than money….less dominance of Brussels,Berlin ,or Frankfurt… .less shameful poverty and homelessness…less politicians liars .. more humanity and better food.

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    Joe

    European Republic (with its own binding constitution that would be secular) with double passports for its citizen.
    In that scenario, I would be a German AND a European citizen. So I could elect my German government but also the European.
    Each country would remain indepent but in the main picture it would be like a federal system.
    As for the specific content:
    humanitarian approaches like the obligation to help and integrate refugees, equality and anti-discrimination, women’s right, protection of environment and so on.

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    Anonymous

    Basically a really big Switzerland. Peaceful, Rich, Happy multilingual, etc.

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    Paolo Santiago

    In terms of the Europe’s future I expect the both the best and worst: the BEST because the more countries around the continent can experience the big growth unlike the Renaissance period only at the Western side, while the WORST part is countries like the Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal, Russia, Spain and Uk would turn out poor then the remaining countries will remain even much more prosperous ever than before except Belarus and Moldova.

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    Edmond mugoni

    A Europe with free movement and federalism. Allowing citizens to settle and work wherever they wish in Europe. One passport and single currency.