Europe’s refugee deal with Turkey was already controversial. The agreement, signed on 20th March 2016, allows Greece to automatically deport to Turkey all new “irregular migrants” arriving by boat. In exchange, the EU would resettle a Syrian refugee currently living in Turkey for every Syrian refugee returned. The idea is to discourage irregular migration and encourage more orderly refugee flows.
However, human rights organisations are fiercely critical of the arrangement, arguing that automatic deportations are illegal, and that Turkey is not a “safe country” to ship asylum seekers to. Furthermore, part of the deal was to grant visa liberalisation for Turkish nationals, something that EU Member States are now getting cold feet about.
Recently, the deal has started to come undone. In return for visa-free travel rights, EU countries had set out a series of conditions for Ankara to meet, including reform of Turkey’s far-reaching anti-terror laws. Human rights watchdogs believe the laws are increasingly being used to silence critics of Turkish President Erdoğan. Turkey argues that the current laws are necessary to fight the so-called Islamic State, and a Kurdish rebellion in the East of Turkey.
The present anti-terrorism laws have certainly been used against journalists in the past; Can Dündar, editor-in-chief of the Cumhuriyet newspaper, and Erdem Gül, the paper’s Ankara bureau chief, were both recently sentenced to five years in prison for publishing a video allegedly showing Turkey shipping weapons to Syrian rebels. Before the sentencing, Dundar survived an assassination attempt on the steps of the courthouse.
In any event, President Erdoğan has refused to soften Turkey’s anti-terror laws. Erdoğan also dismissed Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, who was seen as too friendly to Brussels, and is working to consolidate power in the office of the president. Given this, it is unlikely that concerns over civil rights in Turkey are going to abate any time soon.
Should press freedom be part of the EU-Turkey refugee deal? Should European countries ignore civil rights abuses in Turkey in order to get an agreement? Or should the EU stick to its values and scrap the deal? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below, and we’ll take them to policymakers and experts for their reactions!
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Yes, they are!
No only with Turkey(Country with no human-right)
But, also with the big capital with the gliosfato! Stop been só corrut!
So it would be better to allow 10 million Muslim syrians and another couple million Iraqis etc. to travel to Europe to live in Europe and to finance them and their families to the tune of billions of €?
Look I understand that in a political debate we love to sometimes talk philosophical and we love to speak of the ideal scenario that we would like to have but we live in the real world and in the real world the ideals that we would like to have would sometimes result in a worst-case scenario for our countries. And it is my position and I know many people see this as well that if we were to allow every single Syrian, Iraqi, Afghani, Iranian, Saudi etc. to come and live in our Western countries whether they deserve Asylum or not what we would be doing is we would be massively increasing certain problems that we have in our country’s already with some Muslims eg violent crime, threats against jewish people, violence agains women, terror threat, backward religious, world and political views gaining strength such as the call for islamic laws, anti americanism etc.
No muslims are not the source of all evil but we have a problem in Europe and it is real and difficult to solve, maybe impossible.
europe is a sellout, i yearn for the return to the old europe
Nope, it has been just a particular event
Turkey should be kicked out of NATO , refugees send back to Turkey and the EU should build fence against Turkey . Turkey is only using refugees to fight for power in the EU and they are going to use fifth column organised round church to undermine our security , economy and peace . Turkey is going to become our biggest enemy in the future because they are entering the EU but not like friends or partners but like aggressors . They are going to work together with the church and they are going to fight for power in the EU .
Europe defrauded its values not only in case of Turkey but it throw them away in eyes of greek people or dutch people in the name of big corporations and banks
Yes, that s the word : abandoning European values and 2000 years of evolution, history, culture, CIVILIZATION
Yes
Like the EU had values to begin with.
But no, if you’ve any dignity you’re probably gonna have to step up your game and stop playing the games people like Erdogan like to play with their opponents.
If he wants to prosecute European nationals for criticising him, that’s probably a sign he wasn’t too into Western ideals anyway.
Europe is suing Turkey to do its dirty job
Yes, soon or later we go have a lot of problems. They will that we live under their primitiva rules. Just wait…
There can be no debate on or of Europe without a sound war and revolution package for dismantling, destruction, and permanent expulsion of Islam. Turkey Must be the first to dismantle!
My answer to the question: “should the EU stick to its values and scrap the deal? is YES. This are the reason why we are campaigning for the appeal “Without a humane migration policy and a federal Europe there is no future” and we invite to sign it
http://europainmovimento.eu/mobilitazioni/appeal-without-a-humane-migration-policy-and-a-federal-europe-there-is-no-future.html
If merchandising refugees and supporting dictators is an European value, no. If not, yes.
yes,scrap the deal. .. it is not the only country with civil rights violations, but a deal with the devil is not a way to change this..
What values?
It certainly feels like we have abandoned our values in this deal with the Erdogan government yet I am finding myself having some questions I do not know the answers to a. what are our values exactly as Europeans? We sometimes “feel them” I think but do we ‘know’ them? Are they written somewhere? b. Do new countries that have just come in or have applied to come into the EU have to sign anything that says they have ‘read and agree to adhere by european values’ before being allowed in? Shouldn’t they? c. what are other, better proposals out there vis-a-vis how we in the EU can better deal with this refugee/migrant crisis now and also in the future? Where are they?
Yusuf Osman dünkü mevzuya yakın
what values? what kind of a value could there be in designing and proposing this kind of a refugee deal? closing borders and deporting people, exchanging them like machinery… is this the new human rights value of europe? it should first criticize herself then her “partners” will be more valuable
barbarians…the lot of them
We are all hypocrites. We all pretend that we really worry about the European values, we are crying like crocodiles about the refugees massacre, but we forget that the christian civilized Europe of the Enlightment , Ideals and Democracy, is also responsible for this catastrophy. We are the ones who are following the orders of the stupid americans and support Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar who are collaborating with ISIS. We are the ones who are destabilizing the region by exterminating countries where the refugees come from to steal their wealth. Ιts no use crying over spilled milk. We never had any problem of refugees, destruction and terrorism, until we involved. Now , think of which is going to be the next target after Paris and Brussels.
Europe must be worried most about her existence. This will be secured only by force in the direction of Turkey and Saudi Arabia
Yes
Yes
Erdogan cannot be trusted !! Turkey is a hub for terrorists and blackmailing Europe while working closely with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the USA to oust Assad and escalate the Syrian refugee crisis !!
What values ???
Definitely YES! The eu is being leaded by the ring in its nose, on a short and rusty turkish chain of despot erdowain…
What values. Some European thinkers and philosophers had values and published them to awaken the people, but politics were never dictated by values but have always been motivated by greed. This is why we have now reached an impasse that the weak and vulnerable must pay for and be victimised once more, for the insatiable avarice of the 0,0001%. Either we decide to reject this malevolent system or it will take us all down with it.
Europe has no deal with Turkey…Oh, you mean the EU? What values were those than?
First of all, I do believe, that Europeans (not only people in the EU) have and should continue to have common values. On the one hand the deal with Turkey ignores those values, one the other hand this way of dealing with the migration problem is the result of pressure coming from the public opinion. In various countries, migration (especially involving migrants from the middle east) triggers strong fears which forces politicians to act. Austria is just one example. I think, since alternative proposals (like the distribution of migrants) triggered strong opposition among EU member states, the deal with Turkey seemed to be the only way out, even if it is morally questionable.
I agree Martin. Shouldn’t we though all be somehow openly, honestly and together with people from the Middle East already in or seeking to come to Europe be dealing with that fear instead of going to bed with Turkey though?
SI
I dont like europe
Europe abandoning its values? Can you name any European value at all?
Where are the values of French Revolution? Liberté, Egalité et Solidarité? Why our politicians are subduing Freedom? Turkey a country with more than 30 journalists in jail. A country that is almost a dictatorship? A country that is not even in Europe.?
@Vicente Silva Tavares
French values! LOL!
France is perennially never in the top 10 of the least corrupt nations in the world – at least according to TI.
Scandinavian values and Anglo-Saxon values far outshine France’s contrived and imaginary values.
Europe abandoned its value a long time ago except the financial ones
Driven by oligarchs.
Yes, the do.
Europe is not a deal it’s destruction of everything people value. Identity ; given to Islamists, culture given to liberal ideals, security, given away, trade restricted. Seriously! !.WTF.
The EU stick to its values and scrap the deal. The EU can use Greece to help refugees and the EU can escort economic migrants to their homeland guaranteeing their safety.
EU is worthless. Seems only legit values are if you are pro islam abd pro mass uncontrolled migration.
Is Europe standing up for its women and children?
I beleive yes….the whole Europe lost the idea of being a union….!
Values???? Europe????? Where???? Who???? What?????😪😪😪😪😪😪
Europe has abandoned its values long time ago.
YES YES AND YES. The EU has become morally bankrupt.
Turkey is ruled by a leader elected by the people (majority). European Union is ruled by a Commission that people cannot control or change!!!
so, you are saying that turkey is an example of democracy…did you think hard before you said this/
OFCOURSE
Short answer? Yes!
it is not the first time that we must ask this question, how about human rights in greece? oh i forgot greeks are all thieves so it is normal that EU human rights do not apply, in order to pay their detbs, it is still so funny to compare then after panama papers, number of suicides and homeless, starvless people in greece.
Gaia Pometto
Yes…democracy and freedom of religions against fascism genocides and islamic halifat is day and night
The real criminal act of all those incompetents in Brussels is that the EU – as an economic union – has been overall very beneficial for all participants, it had promoted economic growth.
Since the Juncker administration came to power they have been scr*wing up the whole thing, so in the end we will be stuck with loads of problems that will determine the coming decades (or more) and without the benefits.
Chase away Juncker. Today.
Yes they are!
Long ago Europe has abandoned its values (if ever had any….). Europe (with USA) made illegal interventions and invasions in Middle East (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria), supported criminal jihadists, created the millions of refuges and killed more than one million… Inside Europe, the one and only priority is the support of the dirty Banking System (Markets!) and NOTHING ELSE. For what values we are talking about?
Merkel sold us to Erdogan, the new ottoman emperor.
hope not!
It’s not about refugees, it’s about passing the OIL PIPELINES through Turkey. or the Russian route, not through Turkey. If it was not Erdogan then Europe would be doing the favors of any present govt in Turkey.
@Manolis Karras
It is not and it never has been about oil – the West has always been able to be energy independent IF it really, really wanted to.
The political elites of the West want to destroy Islam – the apparent scarcity of oil was just a pretext.
If the values of Europe are only greed,economics,finance , bureaucracy, overtaxing,joblessness ……yes it definitely has.
Europe (or EU) doesn’t have any values to abandon
So has I understand this ‘deal’,in return for preventing up to a possible million fresh migrants from entering Europe we must instead except visa free entry for eighty million Turkish citizens,now forgive my stupidity but my idea of a deal is an agreement where both sides benefit,so where is the benefit for the E.U??.
What values ? Don’t you understand that Merkel is capable of the most unimaginable things yet ?
Really this question zooms into the very foundation of the problem with the EU leadership and its or their objectives.
From the outset this EU organisation has projected a view of global interference rather than what is in the best interests of all European continental citizens. Remember, those citizens are the ones who pay for its existence and who willingly, once upon a time, believed those who were going to run the club were doing it in the best interests of ‘Europe’ and ‘its’ people, in order to guard against war between each other and the world. That is falling apart and rapidly. We are in a constant state of war somewhere or other.
Somehow, along the way, it suddenly became a club for the wealthy and expansion was their objective. Expansion for their financial interests that did not include the plebs. No longer for the good of ordinary Europeans and all who sail in her. It began working on what was for the good of it’s financial conquerors. In fact it began to follow, in earnest, the mindset of true invaders, the wealthy elite. And all done under the guise of world power and globalisation which, we were sold, was going to be good for mankind in general.
Of course all this was going to be done by first, removing democracy. No longer was it to be through the will of the people, but, via the will of the appointed. Those full time politicians who were and are willing to bang the drum for whoever can pay the highest kick back. In whatever form that takes.
Now this group of unelected and out of touch half wits are asking whether we should renege on our deal with Turkey. Which shows what simpletons they are running this show.
First of all, who is it complaining about our or European duty to human rights? Also, whose human rights are they complaining about and taking into account? Certainly not the indigenous European. Who are these complainers and what are their names? Which organisations do they represent? Who and what set them up and is paying their bills? And what is their collective agenda?. Not the one they claim to have but the underlying personal aims of each and every one of them? And lastly, but most important of all, are they and their organisations European? Not their address but who they are. In other words, what is in it for them personally and collectively? And don’t come back with the Miss World answer of, for World Peace and the good of mankind. That is a blanket to hide under.
The deal made with Turkey was erroneous. What should have been asked is, why did Turkey allow the millions of unregistered and unscrupulous economic migrants to find their way to traffickers with boats, and whatever else they needed to invade Europe en masse, the way they have? What was in it for Turkeys leaders? They had and have an agender which in no way suits the European citizen or lifestyle. Never has and never will.
The guy running their show is out of his depth and is caught between a rock and a hard place. He is in the middle of the economic mafia. They have him by the cajones. They have been using him as a cover for their terror games for some long time and he fears opening his mouth to the world for obvious reasons. Drones seek out and annihilate. So, he screwed Europe and came out with a sweetheart deal that suited 75 million Turks as well as the country or countries he was covering for. Their interest being Turkey in the EU. A deal promised them by the players at the back of European policy for years. Right back in fact, to when Turkey made a deal with JFK called the Cuban missile crisis.
So, the answer to this is, the values held by Europe must first and foremost be in the best interests of European people. Allowing millions of uncontrollable, by our standards, migrants from all over the third world being dumped on our doorstep like abandoned children on the steps of the orphanage is not what we either want or can afford. Our civilisation cannot tolerate such damage and neither can our social cohesion or financial standing. Lets go one step further, do we collectively want it as citizens of this great continent, when it is obvious it will reduce our lives and the values of our civilisation to the level of unthinkable mayhem? History tells us that human nature will not accept this influx lying down. Whether you like it or not, we are locked in a battle arena and none of you are facing up to facts. You must either protect Europe and Europeans or get out of office and allow those in that will and can do it.
You cannot lead if you do not have a heart for it.
Read this it may give some insight. To those willing to see the light of course.
This link missed the above post. It is an interesting read
https://sites.google.com/site/breivikmanifesto/2083/introduction/04
Unfortunately
Until Europe wont get rid from usa troops in European countrys and away from usa manipulation and nato, there cant be freedom to Europe….we are under usa occupation.
@Mike Grek
Until Europe stops being lead by the coward and the c_#t countries of France and Germany respectively there will NEVER be peace in Europe.
A lot of bitterness and nihilism in the comments section…. Sad to see people just lashing out instead of trying to say something that makes sense.. Especially you fellow Greeks.
Europe is abandoning its values in every aspect of our lives….from leaving the South suffer from depression to closing its borders to the refugees. To obeying to the rules of the strong countries whithout considering the weakest ones. Is that what europe is all about? A continent cut into pieces or working as one and taking care of each other?
It’s to much. ..For refugees. …special children. ….
Indeed!!
Actually, Turkey is abandoning its values for a visa deal with Europe.
Europe has no values, unless you count greed as value.
YES.
No! Cause European MS abandoned them looooong before, refusing to shelter refugees. Except for Germany an Greece, if course.
Yes, it is: for a german refugee deal with Turkey!
For sure YES
of course it does.
Terorist israil Abd AB
No, it’s not. Quite the opposite, others are using European values in order to take advantage of Europe. And, you are also wrong in referring to them as refugees, as only about 50% of them are. Half of them have had their asylum claims rejected and that’s just the ones that apply for it…Myself coming from a refugee family, I can tell you that the majority of these people ARE NOT.
@Yasmine
FYI:
All asylum seekers are refugees, not all refugees are asylum seekers!
As usual…
Europe abandoned its values for bankers and money.
Deal or blackmail?
Is Debating Europe an Afro-Asiatic run organization on Facebbok? :P
This just doesn’t add up whatsoever in even the most illiterate mind.
Yes
Germany every time in history was sapport turkey.I can not understand this.Why,why?????This contry is full of criminal thinks,without fridom,demokracy.ln its history have kill meny meny people.Armenian genocide,Greek genocide,Assirian genocide and today kill kurds.And we Europeans and special Germany have give as a gift the visa for turks!!!Shame of you Europe,shame of you Germany!!!Maybee it is the time to see what mean turks.We Greeks unfortunately know who are the turks.Germany allwaise sapport them against us! In first world war and today…:-((((((
Yes
EE on their knees.
Each human being who has no rights its an affront of supposed Democracy…
Turkey is known to never stick to deals made. There is NO European Union, or at least what it was ment to be.
It has lost the reason ot it’s existance. Grant the Turkish people free entrance to E.U. and be prepared to
see ISIS lovers flee into all of your countries. It will serve you right!!
leave the Greeks alone
Business is Business!
That’s Europe!
Today s politicians across Europe are morons.No connection fro last generation’s politicians.They are making huge mistakes.Turkey would invade in EU if they are not carefull.
Si
Does anybody know that 30% of VW belongs to Qatar? No comments!
Never!!
Yes!
Yes. And 6 billion € to a dictator such as Erdogan are simply too many.
Yes. And 6 billion € to a dictator such as Erdogan are simply too many.
how about talking about why europe does not want millions of african, arab, afghan muslims?
Because they have blown us up a few times in their attempt to make us Muslim. Isn’t it obvious?
Absolutely yes.
yes
Jan Luesink
Said Lee
No. It is merely underlining, re-inforcing and continuing its non-elected leaders’ gravy train career, expenses and pension incomes.
europe is in the hands of the refugides
suerte wilders
Europe has lost its mind.
Obviously European leaders are incompetent if they allow a terrorist Turkish government in a country known for ongoing human violations to play around by sending refugees to Europe and blackmail the leaders of Europe. Europe should stand united and keep its boarders safe with strong army and answer to Turks militarily if they dare violate boarders or try to send illegal immigrants to Europe. Turkey being an ISIS ally only understands the lugguage of violence and that’s what Europeans should do to Turks when they try to smuggle immigrants into Europe. No visas to Europe and no talks for these barbarians joining the E.E. !!! The United Nations should impose heavy sanctions on Turkey!!
Very well said, John!
No
Europe outsells its identity by acquiring cheap labour and importing new consumers. It is called dying as a traditional entity for its peoples. European traditions and mationalities are too deeply rooted inside European National way of lives. Flushing all homeland haters inside europe, explosions and clashes will lead to autarchic, combative, useless situations and groupings. Politicians are too short sighted.
Tiramisu admittance will be not only the end of Europe but THE END OF EUROPEANS, THEIR CULTURE, THEIR WAY OF LIVING…Beware of the wolf
European Values were converted into Euros about seven years ago to pay off the gambling debts of big banks. Erdogan simply uses the refugees as leverage to get what it wants. Not to worry though, by the time Turkey gains admittance, the EU itself will have been secretly sold to big business through the TTIP…
The EU no longer represents Europe – do something about it – NOW!
yes ……….& .the Brits could make history- with a- BREXIT!
Carlota Arroyo
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Protect democracy, VOTE Leave.EU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
Values??
Yes, a weak, scared and corrupt EU pays a dictator to “resolve” its problems.
It will be in the interests of all European citizens to see this movie. It is passionately informative.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/668346/brexit-movie-feature-length-documentary-film-EU-Europe-Britain-exit
…a Brexit clip…? Very informative indeed…propaganda and lies for the pupularii?
Passionate information for the pupularii, please, more passion and less information is ideal. It’s what appeals to them.
since Europe helped U.S.A to destroy so many countries for no reason and lies , now we have to deal with the biggest crises …. but where is democracy in Europe when the borders are closed ? where is democracy in Europe when Europe make a deal with Turks smugglers and pay them 6 more billions when they have profit 20 billions only last year from the refugees and immigrants , where is democracy in Europe when cooperate with Turks knowing that they help ISIS by making money from the petrol that they buy and from the weapons that they shell in ISIS , where is democracy in Europe when we know that many European countries shell weapons to ISIS …. Corruption is the biggest problem in EU and now that we have given VISA to our good friends and allies Turks be prepared for the worst … The war against Christians has began many years ago and EVERYBODY knows how this end … welcome WW3 .
To make a deal with the devil, you HAVE TO abandon your values. This means you are too naive and inexperienced to think that the deal is in your benefit. This agreement is a cover for Erdogan’s efforts to establish a second Ottoman Empire in Europe. It should never have been done. I think there is only one initiative that EU could have insisted on. This is the guarding of the Turkish sea border in order to intercept departing boats with refugees and migrants. If Turkey had said it doesn’t have enough people for an effective coast guard, then EU could have provided the necessary number of policemen with a simple task – stop the boat before it goes on water, destroy it, detain the smuggler and give him to the Turkish police. Force Erdogan to accept European policemen for humanitarian reasons and solidarity, control the Turkish border and there will be no more drowning children and illegal migration to Greece. Where is Erdogan’s humanity, if he is purposefully leaving women and children to die at sea?
we should negotiate the deal with Russia and G7 comeback again to G8 http://newobserveronline.com/russia-offers-free-land-foreigners/
What values it doesn’t have any it’s pathetic.Vote Leave
Yes. It’s a poor, short-term, act of realpolitik, and the situation has arisen as payback with compound interest for the EU not having the nerve to intervene decisively in Syria when it could have.
#FuckYouAndYourValues by the way
Mistake from beginning to deal with Turkey
Here is the full length movie for Brexit. It is an eye opener, but, it is still not telling the full story as political correctness doesn’t allow them to be free about what is really going on.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k
No deal with TURKEY !!.EU must find other solutions
Turkey is blackmailing weak Europe, yes.
European values? It is a nonsense. These are Anatolian values, obviously.
What values,
unfortunately yes… accepting the Turkish blackmail is the worst thing that they can do…
We cannot let Turkeys believe that they have effect in European Union… Greece cannot Cooperate with Turkey!!!
To night Erdogan said no free visa agrement for schengen area no refugee deal.Then Syrians, Afgans Iraqies, Iranians, Northern Africans Pakis marsh marsh to EU
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You do know Turkey is a ‘European’ country don’t you ?
The ‘Schengen area’ must decide, do as Turkey demands or take millions more migrants.
The choice is yours..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36373973
Absolutely…..europe is sabotaging itself.
To Hell this “E.U.’s Tyranny……………….. “LEAVE-2-LIVE !”
The answer is yes! The EU and other European nations see and feel that every day.
Eu selling arms to conflict zones also sending jihadi johns, then pressure own muslims for enslavement, these are some of the european values
Yes
i have an easy solution to the Turkish blackmail, just allow Putin to settle it.
Yes
Who cares of refugees …enough this stupid topic and focus on increasing poverty rate and unemployment among eu ppl
Deal whit Turkey is deal whit war criminals = Deal whit Hitler – bur euro burocrats are peaple whitaut honour and moral values – so thet make deals whit every persen – who offer profits for them .
“THE VALUES OF THE UNION
The Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, liberty, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities. These values, which are set out in Article I-2, are common to the Member States. Moreover, the societies of the Member States are characterised by pluralism, non-discrimination, tolerance, justice, solidarity and equality between women and men. These values play an important role, especially in two specific cases. Firstly, under the procedure for accession set out in Article I-58, any European State wishing to become a member of the Union must respect these values in order to be considered eligible for admission. Secondly, failure by a Member State to respect these values may lead to the suspension of that Member State’s rights deriving from membership of the Union (Article I-59).
In comparison with the existing Treaties, the Constitution has included new values, notably human dignity, equality, the rights of minorities and the characterization of the values upheld by the societies of the Member States.” Source: http://europa.eu/scadplus/constitution/objectives_en.htm According with the EU values on the first paragraph of ” human dignity,liberty,democracy,equality,the rule of law and respect for human rights,INCLUDING the rights of persons belonging to minorities”,YES EU is not taking the right decisions yet.
yep, they think they can buy a position in Europe blackmailing it, getting billions of euros to do nothing but ship more clandestines to EU. Problem is EU isn’t really trying to find a solution for good.
intanto mentre pensate a quello che si deve fare …..gli immigrati cambiano rotta , vengono in Italia . Già abbiamo l’emergenza dell’Africa in più si aggiungono gli immigrati dell’Est ….. come si fa ? Chi ha creato tutta questa immigrazione ? Saremo lasciati soli ancora o chi ha creato il problema lo “risolve ” ? Come lo risolve ?
EU should simple build wall against Turkey and stop trading on the turkish bazaar . They can keep their size for themselves .
Yes.Why do you ask such things?EE is sold.
unfortunately yes and it’s not the first time they do so.. edorgan is a dictator accepting his blackmail it will only make things worse, guys like edorgan or Hitler can’t be trusted accepting their blackmailing is the way to hell
Europe never had real values , its just the other end of middle ages with other names/clothes etc…but the purpose the same profit and only profit.
Ist values??? is it a jock? don´t forguet Srebrenica or Sarajevo or Bihac, or Maglaj, or…. Vukovar..please. What about Greece and his people? what is happening with Krimea? Nothing new under the sun of Europe with these politicians.
yes!
Europe & Turkey share the same. Putin welcome in Athens.
it is throwing away everything that made it European whilst trying to reason with those who do not know how to reason
End up the war in Syria the first place by standing with Russia. We should stop thinking that democracy is the solution. Democracy can only work in small Countries where people are highly educated. The Middle East needs stability and this can be only granted by military regimes. They need to get undergo a modernisation process that requires time and higher education. Topping up regimes in search for democracy will only result into chaos and leave a vacuum difficult to fill. So the first thing to do is to reestablish order. Eventually people will start returning to their homes.
YES NO VALUES FOR EUROPE ONLY MONEY THIS IS THE NEW GOD OF LOST EARTH
Europe has abandoned its values long before that, when they refused to give Syrians a safe place within their own country.
In my personal satirical opinion
the EU governors seems to be in drunk stupor, they behave like stoned college student during a spring break.
And the real owner (banks and corporation) enjoy the situation.
Leave the EU or die by EU what’s the alternative?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0&app=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0&app=desktop
I think europe shouldn’t be blackmailed by Turkey . Also europe has to reconsider its values and give priority to humans and European culture instead of profit .
Merkel is a DISASTER!
Of course it is. Where is our support for freedom of speech when Erdogan put more than 30 journalists in jail? Erdogan AKP is a fascist party.
Who else will clean your offices and toilets and give you kebab/shoarma after night out party. Let be very honest in Europe: one like to stereotype people otherwise you will not be the alpha person.
Europe is abandoing self-government to a dictator who steals our money, or how do i call 6 billion euro !?
The deal should be abondened and human trafickers should send these refugees back to corrupt racist Europe. What ever good comes out from Turkey is seen as inhumane by EU.
So lets see the real love EU has to offer for these refugees.
There are other continents, too..
http://planet-bpm.eu/2016/06/08/economists-juergen-b-donges-gives-advice/
The population wants no deal. The population wants border control that is independant from the neighbouring country.
No deal with T.
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Brussels would sell its grandmother to get the Turks to keep the migrants so no, press freedom will never be part of any agreement but the deal will go ahead..
Enjoy the millions of Turks, Kurds & migrants who are about to invade Schengen.
Vote Leave.
lets first make press free in EU where certain people with lot of money choose who will be elected (and dont tell me this is democrasy) and then try to make the rest world better
There shouldn’t be a deal with Turkey in the first place!
It’s really funny this ‘deal’… is it functioning yet? EU gave Turkey some privileges, money and stuff but what are we actually getting out of it? The population I mean…
what erdogan does to his own people is irrelevant to the agreement with merkel.. look the things are simply : we should not strike any agreement with Turkey they can’t be trusted
Freedom of the press should be mandatory for any deal, contract, arrangement, agreement, with Turkey or any other country or party. Period. No ifs, ands or buts.
Freedom of the press should be mandatory for any deal, contract, arrangement, agreement, with Turkey or any other country or party. Period. No ifs, ands or buts.
the EU should abbolish the deal with Turkey….Lets hope Britain leaves this evil club.
America could deport mexicans for 50 years or so and eu cant deport illegal immigrants for like a year? The bad thing about current eu politicians is that they are willing to trash their current voters for new ones which were never part of europe and clearly doesbt give a damn about secularism
We don’t need Turkey . We don’t care for any deal with Turkey . Close border to Turkey and and of the story . They can solve their own problem , EU is not created to solve Arab and Turk problem .
No Deal with sultan erdevil, which sort ever.
Honestly you ask such stupid questions. There is no democracy without press freedom? Independent Press not governmental press. duh.