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EU foreign ministers are holding a crisis meeting in Brussels today.  Ministers from around 20 countries have decided to cut their holidays short in order to attend the emergency meeting, with the French Foreign Minister quoted as saying: “When people are dying, you must come back from vacation”.

Meeting as part of the EU Foreign Affairs Council, the ministers will be discussing plans to join France and the US in arming Kurdish forces in Iraq against the extremist “Islamic State” (formerly known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS).

The UK has already announced it is preparing to ship weapons to the Kurds, while the Czech Republic, Netherlands and Italy all reportedly support the move. Germany has already promised non-lethal military aid to the Iraqi army, and is said to be considering arms supplies to Kurdish forces.

The meeting comes after the United States announced it would continue airstrikes against so-called “Islamic State” targets. For the time being, however, Western states have ruled out sending combat troops to Iraq except for limited numbers of special forces and military advisers.

Why arm the Kurds? Supporters of the move point out that the autonomous Kurdish region of Iraq has long been politically stable and relatively free from the sort of extremist insurgency that has plagued much of the country. Whilst Islamic State forces have garnered a reputation for carrying out mass-executions and beheading religious and political opponents, the Kurds have been providing sanctuary for hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Syrians forced to flee their homes.

What are the risks? Critics argue that arming the Kurds is likely to facilitate the break-up of Iraq and could destabilise neighbouring Turkey and Iran, both of whom have significant Kurdish minorities. They also warn that weapons could fall into extremist hands; after looting Iraqi army bases, Islamic State fighters reportedly already have access to US-made Humvees, M1 Abrams tanks and surface-to-air Stinger missiles. Even though the Kurdish forces constitute a regular army and are more disciplined and better-trained than rebel groups, the recent Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 tragedy in Ukraine demonstrates what can happen when sophisticated weapons systems are introduced into a warzone.

Ultimately, however, Kurdish forces are unlikely to fight far from the borders of the Kurdistan Region even with Western military backing. The key to ending the broader conflict against Islamic State militants will likely require a political solution in Baghdad.

Should EU Member States join the US and France in arming Kurdish forces? Or would this only facilitate the break-up of Iraq and destablise the region further? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below, and we’ll take them to policy-makers and experts for their reactions.

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What do YOU think?

    • avatar
      Sergei

      I will admit that the Western policy towards the Middle East has been an enigma for me for the last couple of decades. (That includes both the US and the EU); Either they know something others don’t, or their so-called Middle Eastern ‘experts’ have been feeding them the same cool-aid that they drank from their ‘progressive’ professors the likes of Edward Said and others sponsored by Arab Oil money.

      Supporting the Jihadis in Syria was the ‘icing on the cake’ of Western idiocy. But in that bleak landscape of savagery, one people (aside from the Israel) stand out as the last best hope of the Middle East. Just look at northern Iraqi Kurdistan. It’s the least violent and the most prosperous area of the post war Iraq. It’s the closest one gets to a viable and functioning state in that neck of the desert. What sets the Kurds, who are Muslim too, lest we forget, apart from most other players in the region is their aversion to redicalization and productivity – the hallmarks of a healthy civil society.

      The Kurds are the only people in that region that the West can actually rely on not to turn against them in the future. Also, empowering the Kurds means empowering moderation, religious tolerance and a functioning political entity – all very scarce commodities in that region. In addition, from a moral standpoint the Kurds deserve a state of their own, so it’s also the moral thing to do.

      Obviously nothing will be achieved and they will simply be overrun by Jihadis or massacred by neighboring countries unless our support is backed up by tangible collateral in the forms of arms and other supplies. Who knows, with the oil fields in Kurdistan, we might even stand to gain some financial benefits from it.

    • avatar
      Tarquin Farquhar

      @Ιωάννης Χιόνης
      So its clear that you want tens of thousands to be slaughtered in the hope that the mad murderers will thereafter agree to go back to school!

      GET REAL!

  1. avatar
    James McManama

    The Kurds are just about the only effective force in the region preventing the widespread massacre of civilians by IS forces. Even so, without US airpower and military support from EU and US states, they won’t be able to stop IS on their own.

  2. avatar
    Nando Aidos

    Stop arming armies! Stop arming warmongers! Stop making and exporting weapons!

    We cannot be both the world’s leading champion of peace and the world’s leading supplier of the weapons of war. Jimmy Carter

  3. avatar
    Ivan Zuberov

    Untill we figure out who stands behind ISIS, who stands behind the Kurdish Forces, who they represent (all of the important questions, which every citizen of the EU should ask himself/ herself), the anwser is “No!”. We remember what happened in the Soviet-Afghan war (1979-1989).
    I am FOR aiding the REGULAR Iraqi Military, but against arming possible insurgents. Before anyone decides to send anything, appropriate measures must be taken (both by the EU and the Iraqi Goverment), which will prevent these weapons beig used against citizens of the EU!

  4. avatar
    Marylene Borg

    Excuse me, I think we are all living a perfectly wonderful life in Europe aren’t we not? Do you want to get killed, raped or tortured by those godforsaken lunatics who lust on power and nothing more? One down for them means nothing at all means they are more powerful and can annihilate anyone. Now why on earth can’t they supply these persecuted people huh? Why can’t they defend themselves like actual humans. If YOU were the one, would you rather be armed and defend yourself or give yourself to these beasts? They have an education they are just a hoard of godforsaken lunatics that think they can rule the world!

  5. avatar
    Karel Van Isacker

    The EU is co-responsible for this mess by arming the Syrian rebels, thus weakening the Assad regime which would have been able to battle IS(IS). The EU must defeat IS(IS) to its very roots, even if it leads back to USA/MOSSAD training camps.

  6. avatar
    ObservateurBxl Brabançon

    Syria and Iraq are both failing States. Terrorists and Jihadists all around the world and in Europe are rushing to support the widespread genocide and ethnic cleansing objectives if EIIL and other warmongers.Christian and other minorities as Yezidi are persecuted at an industrial scale : huge cities as Mossoul Qarraqosh Sinjar are emptied of these old minorities living there since the beginning of civilization. This crime of genocide is a dramatic step further since the US war against Saddam Hussein or the collapsing in civil war of Syria. Europe MUST HELP to stop this barbaric violence and keep all measures to eradicate the criminals, including by giving weapons to Kurds or tracing and expelling “european Jihadists” from his territories.

  7. avatar
    Pablo GC

    pfff Yes, all the Kurdish. And then, arm also Turkey and accept their entrance in the EU so that we bring war to Europe! Peace is not fun guys.
    This is stupid, make love and stop selling crap in the name of peace. By the way, ISIS was created by the USA according to Snowden.
    EU + USA is the worst ecuation for World stability.

  8. avatar
    Katia Souse

    I am Polish and i try to understand what ppl there need. Memories of 2nd Wod War and Polish needs of that time tell me that we should support them, with weapons too. During German occupation Polush army needed weapons the most cuz we didnt have a thing and we wanted so much to fight against the enemy and we felt so hopeless while waiting for any help from the world. This is my opinion that we should help them to protect themselves in their own country.

  9. avatar
    Martyn Cooper

    Throwing more weapons into such a destabilized region – yes that is sure to help – not!

  10. avatar
    Marcel

    High time for an independent Kurdistan.

    The borders drawn by Britain and France are one of the key reasons of structural instability in both the Middle East and Africa. Colonial powers who arrogantly ignored ethnic, religious and tribal makeup of the region and only considered the resources (which they grabbed for themselves).

    In fact, France keeps its former colonies virtually enslaved to this day with financial-economic-monetary treaties that benefit France and a bribed local elite in such countries, but not the local people.

    Why else is it that such a resource rich continent like Africa remains so poor? The western world, countries and corporations keep looting the place. Case in point is Liberia, it is possibly the most resource rich country around yet it has the lowest GDP per capita in the world. Because western governments pressured (read: bribed) a few local leaders to sign away the rights to the resources for periods up to 100 years and paying maybe 1-2% of what it is worth.

    And no, Europe cannot let go of such deals, in fact our disproportional wealth absolutely requires us keeping them disproportionately poor. So we have a choice: maintain our living standard and to hell with the rest of the world or finally stop looting the place!

  11. avatar
    Christos Mouzeviris

    Right now I do not think we have a choice.. The West caused the destabilisation of the region already and so now we need to take responsibility. Join France in arming the Kurds!!! Not in favour in another military intervention though! Hopefully this will become a lesson to not mess with other regions for our own interests though!!

  12. avatar
    Anıl Eken

    europe must look at albanian issue in greece and italy.Middle east is not european border at all..

  13. avatar
    Anıl Eken

    macedonia issue at same time..Europe can not arm a group for fight with another group..europe is not violence organiztion..if you can arm an organiztion,i can say eaisly,eu is a undemocratic fachist organztion supported by greece and holy pope..:) christian fachist community that kill muslim people to another potential muslim community or muslim community..you can not make enemy people to each other like you did before..this is a crime and human right scandal of you again..you must question yourself instead of arming terrorists groups.

  14. avatar
    Catalin Durla

    Of course ! Isis will not stop there! They are like ants always looking for new places to destablise ! Soon will come to EU, they are psycopaths – read the Quoran, we are all considered infidels, and the punishment for infidels is death! Arm the Kurdish forces and wipe all the terrorism in the world – isis, fatah, hezbollah, al queda, boko haram etc! Radicalism is like a plague,keep spreading and spreading ! They wanted to kill 50000 people on that top of the mountain ! They are insase muslim radicals ! As soon as the world is cleaned by these bastards we will live in a better place,until then we will always live in fear. And after the job is done – give kurds a Country . From Romania

  15. avatar
    Daniele Scaramelli

    Arabs like conspiracy theories, like the CIA behind ISIS, so that they don’t have to admit their own faults. Socially, politically, culturally the Arab world in the last 70 years has been a complete failure. So they always blame somebody else, never themselves.

  16. avatar
    Simon Gangl

    We should not arm the Kurds – they can do it themselves (oil?!) … but yes we should bomb ISIS into the dinosaur age! ;-) Or we can wait again for some bombs to go of in London and Madrid … :S

    • avatar
      Marcel

      Who is this ´we´?

  17. avatar
    S.K

    Instead of asking if Europe should arm the Kurds we should first be asking who armed ,financed and gave political support to Isis and other Jihadists in the beginning of this war, ofcourse by now they have no problem getting weapons, money etc., but who armed them in the very beginnings, surely it was not Assad, so who?!?
    If we answer this question first then we will know if it makes sense to arm the Kurds.

    • avatar
      ken

      Iran fund and supports Isis

    • avatar
      ken

      Iran funds and supports Isis. The root system must be removed to kill rampant weeds.
      Isis is comparable to the Nazis and should be stopped at all costs.
      Maybe a joint coalition or something would be wiser than giving hi-tech weaponry to Anyone that could use them against any of our families in our own lands. This is something that could turn around and bite us all in the $%&.

    • avatar
      Alex

      I guess the this ken guy is drunk.isis are sunis while iran are shias.they hate each other more then the both of them hate christians^^

  18. avatar
    Stefania Portici

    Article 11 “Italy repudiates war as an instrument of aggression against the freedom of other peoples and as a means of settling international disputes allows, on an equal footing with the other states, to the limitations of sovereignty necessary for an order that ensures peace and justice among nations, promotes and encourages international organizations having such ends. “

    • avatar
      maximo

      Dear Stefania…like too many Italians it seems you are lost in too much theory and “should-be’s”. You should take a look at the facts instead. The following is an article from a major Italian daily newspaper ‘La Stampa’ dated 17th August:

      If on August 20th, as expected, the Parliament will give its assent to the special plan of the government to send weapons to Kurdish militias, already on the 24th or 25th August the first Italian aircraft could participate in a hypothetical airlift to Erbil, the capital of the autonomous region of Kurdistan. So far mainly the Americans have supported the war effort where the Kurds have received 15 million ammunition in a month. And now the question is what would be the Italian or European aid.

      The Kurdish President Massoud Barzani has explicitly requested, even to the papal envoy in recent days, “modern weaponry” and “air cover”. The Kurds, from the West, want especially small arms, shoulder-rockets and ammunition. They must equip hastily a people who are rushing to arms against the aggression of the Islamists Isis.

      There may be technical problems, though. “The Kurdish peshmerga have always fought using weapons of Soviet manufacture,” says Gianandrea Gaiani, an expert on military matters. The problem is that NATO standards are different from those of the former Soviet bloc. Even the ammunition is incompatible. From Italy, therefore, may come more easily helmets, flak vests and laser targeting systems, bomb protection, night vision goggles.

      If Kalashnikov’s are really needed, however, Italy would know where to pick them up. It has been 20 years since the Italian Defense jealously guards a former Soviet arsenal of weapons, the result of a seizure operated at sea in 1994 in the midst of war in the Balkans, during which the Italian and British intelligence kept watch. A transport ship, the ‘Jadran Express’ which departed from Ukraine destined for Split (Croatia), was intercepted at sea and taken to the port of Taranto. Inside the ship’s hold there were crates with 30,000 Kalashnikov rifles, 400 Fagot missiles with launch-ramps, 5,000 Katyusha rockets, 11,000 anti-tank rockets, 32 million ammunition. On that occasion the organizer of the traffic, the Russian oil magnate Alexander Zukhov: a billionaire with a villa in Sardinia and grandson of the legendary marshal Zukhov of the Red Army.

      After ten years of trials, Mr. Zukhov and the other defendants were acquitted because the defense argued that the load had never entered our territorial waters and the Supreme Court recognized that Italy did not have criminal jurisdiction over a foreigner in foreign arms trafficking .

      The load, estimated at 2000 tons of weapons, however, was confiscated and though the judiciary had ordered its destruction in 2011, the arms of Mr. Zukhov were still stored in underground storage in the island of La Maddalena.

      From there they were taken away in the spring of 2011, coinciding with the outbreak of war in Libya, and probably some cache of guns also reached the Benghazi rebels, disguised in various loads.

      Some containers were found to be on board civilian ferries and when this reached the ears of two Democratic Party deputies, Gianpiero Scanu and Giulio Calvisi, their parliamentary questions were dropped by the Berlusconi government of the time. The judiciary then decided that the investigation had to immediately stop because those Kalashnikov’s had fallen under state secret.

      Since then, the rest of the arsenal is stored in some cranny of the Armed Forces. But obviously, if they served to arm the Kurdish militias, those thousands of rifles, rockets, missiles, and ammunition – kept religiously since 1994 – might finally come in handy and it would explain the secrecy on the part of governments that have governed to the present day.

      …I would like to see if ISIS memebers showed-up at your house and killed your father, raped your mother and then took you away to be sold. I wonder if you would try to negotiate with them by mentioning article 11 of the Italian constitution. Clearly this does not justify gratuitous violence but do try to keep things in their right context as I don’t think the victims of ISIS, in this case the Kurds, have the luxury of ‘farsi una pizza con gli amici’. They are fighting for survival and if you ever create a chance for yourself maybe you should visit those parts of the world and live there for a while to see the difference between theories and reality.

  19. avatar
    S.M

    BY ARMING KURDISTAN ,HOW TO AVOID THOSE GUNS TO NO FALL IN THE HANDS OF PKK AND OTHER SMALL PARTIES LISTED BY EU AND US AS TERRORIST ORGANISATION? IN AFGANISTAN AND LIBYA TO JUST LIST THOSE ONE HOW SPREADING EU AND US GUN HAS GIVEN BIRTH OF AL QUEADA AND MILITIAS.HOW DO YOU THINK IN THAT CASE OF KURDISTAN WILL BE DIFFERENT?
    OTHERWISE ISIS ARE READY OF GORILLA WAR ,WILL YOUR SOPHISTICAT WEAPONS WILL DEFEAT THEM? AND HOW LONG IT IS GOING TO TAKE?
    IF YOU DO NOT KURDISTAN TO BECOME PRIME TARGET BY ISIS PLEASE DO NOT ARM THEM.
    WHAT TO DO IS TO STABILIZE POLITIC IN BAGDAD,GIVE ASSURANCE TO SUNNI POPULATION IN IRAK AND REORGANIZE THE ECONOMY AND LET BAGDAD GOVERNMENT TO ENGAGE WITH ISIS THROUGH TRUST IMAM IN THE REGION.
    US WITH THIER ARMADA OF SOLDIERS HAS FAIL TO WIN MILITIA IN IRAQ I DO NOT SEE KURDISTAN WHATEVER ARM YOU GIVE THEM TO WIN AGAINST ISIS.KURDISTAN WILL BE REDUCED IN RUBBLE.

  20. avatar
    Vinko Rajic

    Yes if they are going to accept to respect human rights , international ( UN ) justice system , democracy .

  21. avatar
    Helena Feio

    Difficult to decide. But let people be murdred just because they have a different origin and religio, it’s outrageous!

  22. avatar
    Dustin T. Wittmann

    I’d say we should all stay out of it. Anytime the west has tried to pick a side we just get sucked into centuries old conflicts.

    • avatar
      Eukon

      Europeans are already a part of these centuries old conflicts, and have been for centuries.

  23. avatar
    Andrew Rout

    Maybe yes, arms to the Kurds, far better than the Shia controlled Iraq army. It seems that Kurds are the only civilized group in this area.

    • avatar
      Sergei

      God, thank you! Finally someone who understands something. It amazes me how the media keep quite of this little fact. If there ever was a force deserving of our support in that region it would be the Kurds. The only non-radical, non-jihadi and civil force in all of the middle east. Hell, they’re better than Erdogan’s Turkey (let alone Iran). If there was justice in the worlds, the Kurds would annihilate IS and declare a state on all their territories including those of turkey and Iran.

  24. avatar
    catherine benning

    There should be sanctions on those countries that supplied arms to ISIS in the first place.

    And will the headline in five years read, “Kurd threat to Middle East peace.”

    Please give us all a break…….. This bilge is simply another ‘phoney’ way to sell arms to the world and keep them warring, so the US can take over more of the area it needs to keep its economy going.

    Funny how none of these, oh, so gracious, countries want to supply arms to the Palestinians isn’t it? And just as strange that the ‘Ukraine’ war is kept out of our sight as arms are supplied there. Propaganda junkies the lot of them.

    • avatar
      Yvetta

      Agree with this comment. Where did this ISIS suddenly come from? And where have they got their weapons from?

    • avatar
      Marcel

      Most of their (ISIS Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham) weapons come from the United States of America. You see, the USA is for the rebels in Syria, of which the IS group and the al-Nusra Front are the main components, and against these same people in Iraq.

      Weapons from the USA, paid for by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And yet Washington and Brussels consider Saudi Arabia and Qatar to be allies.

  25. avatar
    ironworker

    Should Europe arm Kurdish forces against ISIS?

    All the way ! Forget Turkey. I would give them SAM’s (surface-to-air missile), just in case.

  26. avatar
    Luca Bartaloni

    Plus, I think kurdish must become an indipendent State (because they are already a nation).

  27. avatar
    Joe Bonnici

    no …just drop a nuclear bomb in the region and vanish the whole bloody lot…that would solve one big problem

  28. avatar
    Wiktoria Anilom

    mmm…what we shouold do is to stand up agianst any kind of violence, specially against women and children. I haven’t heard any politician woman claiming and fighting fiercely against what is going on. The response is shy and not enough, not enogh in Syria in Israel in Sudan in Irak…European Union Foreign Policy is far from succeeding, it is a mess ..we can’t even control our borders and we are going to tell the others how to clean what we’ve messed up? The world needs new leadeers who take peace and conflict resolution seriously, and we need more WOMEN ruling…I just see nice suit and ties talking in offices…

    • avatar
      robert.m

      Just to cut to the chase…you mention:

      ‘standing up to any kind of violence’..
      ‘the response is shy and not enough’..
      ‘EU foreign policy is far from succeeding’..
      ‘the world needs new leaders’..
      ‘the world needs more WOMEN ruling’..

      So..in which practical ways would you envision this? Do you have a solution/s, concrete ideas on how to proceed to achieve all this? No personal offense but I feel that you are unwillignly doing the same thing that most politicians (the ones you mention in your post) are doing today. Writing about what should be but in reality offer no concrete contribution of how this is to be achieved. Maybe because achieving certain liberties and rights is about the dirty work which we comfortable citizens know nothing of.

  29. avatar
    Hristo Velkov

    Yes, ISIS is danger for EU security and action must be taken

  30. avatar
    George Danieldsg

    USA and EU created ISIS to fight Assand.Now must stop barbarian mercenaries and THEIR creators and presant supporters.They must name them!!!

  31. avatar
    catherine benning

    How many of these fighters are mercenaries and where do they originate from and who is their employers?

  32. avatar
    Licia Pascali

    responding to violence violence, freed from meddling countries of the East, and grow the domestic demand for the growth of European GDP

  33. avatar
    Nikolaos Sotirelis

    EU, along with its allies, have done enough! Until last year, they were arming the same Jihadists in Syria and they used to call them… “freedom fighters”! :p
    The least they should do is to help bring back peace and to eliminate this monster they’ve created!!!
    The so called arab spring, seem to be an endless winter

  34. avatar
    Nikolaos Sotirelis

    “This is stupid and so much stupidity is to cry”… said Mr Schaeuble, for the American interceptions against German government!
    I wonder, is his conclusion still valid, now with the Spiegel revelations, about German interceptions against American government???
    By the way, dear host, when the American interceptions were revealed, you posted plenty of articles. WHY YOU KEEP SILENT NOW???

  35. avatar
    Marcel

    I oppose intervention of any kind. In fact, I quite support not getting involved in that region with anything for the next 50 years or so including all matters concerning Israel.

    Tired of that region, and tired of neo-colonial warmongers like Cameron and Hollande who just can’t seem to let go of their respective country’s colonial history. Britain and France, them and their colonial borders drawn all over Africa and the Middle East, they caused a significant part of all this mess, and when you are part of the problem you cannot be part of the solution.

    I see the warmongers, in several media outlets, have already tried to create a new idea, the ‘humanitarian war’ and will attack anyone who dares to oppose it. Of course, a ‘humanitarian war’ needs victims and above all a bogeyman which were readily supplied.

    But after the lies about Iraq, distortions about Syria and poison gas, unsubstantiated claims about Ukraine/separatist republics and the warmongering attitude connected to many western politicians, I am all tapped out, I don’t believe anything these people say anymore.

    Anyone who wants to intervene, should in my view be made to go in person, not as an observer but as a front line fighter. That’ll cure all that enthusiasm for war quite quickly. Politicians always love the idea of having other people’s children die so they can grandstand and their friends in the weapons industry can get rich.

    But the proponents of this new concept ‘humanitarian war’ would probably call me a heartless b*****d. How dare I say we shouldn’t do anything to help the ‘Yezidis’, a group that 99% of the world never heard of until a few weeks ago.

    And the Euro and US politicians clamoring for intervention, I bet you they wouldn’t have been so agressive if it had been christians cornering muslims on a mountain. If that whole mountain business was true to begin with, I have some doubts and think it was used as a propaganda tool.

    • avatar
      Marcel

      I always think of George Carlin and what he said about such things, I reference him more often I know.

      “They [the politicians] just aren’t happy if we’re not dropping high explosives on some brown people somewhere, and if you got brown people in your country, tell them to watch out because we will be coming for them someday…”

  36. avatar
    Yvetta

    No, we should keep out of it. We should not be taking sides.

    • avatar
      Eukon

      As the situation stands not reacting is the same as being the accomplice of the Islamic State

    • avatar
      Yvetta

      Well, in that case the whole world should intervene, not just the EU. As long as the whole world does not want to get involved, neither should the EU. One rule for all.

  37. avatar
    Asbjorn Okkenaug

    I have been in doubt. However, I do think the world have no choice. The IS seems determined to create their islamic califat (state). Another “Afganistan” have to to be avoided. Humanitarian relief of course + mainly effective weapons used by the ground soldiers.

  38. avatar
    Maia Alexandrova

    Having in mind that Spain and all Balkan countries were on the map of the Islamic State as part of the Islamic State – yes!

    • avatar
      Marcel

      Maybe an IS government can get the Spanish to work, finally.

  39. avatar
    ken

    Let you dange eu weenies pick up the bill on this one. (No disrespect to England). It’s just you all sit back and enjoy freedom off of American and British blood all the while you’re talking %&$#

    • avatar
      Marcel

      Freedom? The USA and its lackeys are the biggest war criminals of the 21st century. Bush´s illegal Iraq invasion alone cost 250k lives, so GW Bush is the number 1 mass murderer of the 21st century.

      Putin and IS have a long way to go to catch the US and its lapdog Britain in terms of numbers of people killed.

      And guess what, there never were 100,000 Yezidis on the mountain, it was 1,500 and most of them lived there to begin with. Another western media-propaganda lie designed to tug at peoples heartstrings.

  40. avatar
    Jason Pi

    ITALY “Mare Nostrum'”: How do the penniless immigrants…and ALL MEN…from Syria and IRAQ, afford to pay ?$5000 a head to the human traffickers who bring them over on the boats? They are paid for by ISIS (financed by WE KNOW WHO).
    So are EU-NATO governments KNOWINGLY IGNORING these dormant cells to-be, in the name of ‘progress’ (and current policies of debt-driven economic suicide forced onto its peoples) ?

  41. avatar
    Christine Bennetts

    It is only by confronting ISIS that the organization will be incapacitated. The international community will not contribute “boots on the ground” after the complete fuck-ups in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those targeted by ISIS should not have to bet their survival on those that do NOT have a vested interest in their protection. Being able to militarily confront ISIS and have some sort of parity will be the only way that the insurgency reanalyses its cost-benefit calculations. No one else will do this but the Kurds.

  42. avatar
    crayven

    The EU needs to STAY OUT of this issue.
    The USA needs to stop supporting Qatar and Saudi dictators – THEY fund these bastards.

    The EU needs to close borders to muslim immigration for a limited time to prevent terrorist attacks from these nuts.
    And then sit tight and worry about Ukraine and Russia.

    Let Israel and USA worry about their damn desert playground with their money.
    We got our own problems.

  43. avatar
    Jokera Jokerov

    So EU has armed the jihadists and now is going to arm the Kurds? No, not any more arming untill every single EU politician goes to prison for crimes against humanity.

    • avatar
      crayven

      The US has armed the jihadists and we aren’t “arming” anyone.

  44. avatar
    Christian Nenanu

    We need international troops there. You can’t talk or argue with that IS Microbes, only way to free the people there is to eliminate the IS Terrorists.

  45. avatar
    dickson.junior

    I think first of all Europe should be mor active than ever to participate in diplomatic
    soluions. That accures also to the Situation in the Ukraine. We don t need a Europe of war making or sponsoring such. But Europe should be a peace keeper by all means.

    • avatar
      dickson.junior

      more active and occurs …sorry

  46. avatar
    Les Templar

    The Kurds are just about the only effective force in the region preventing the genocide of civilians by ISIL and the Kurds are only ones prepared to fight and help the Yazidi people. It is a good thing that now countries are helping by giving weapons to the Kurds, this is the right thing to do. They need support on the ground and with bombing ISIL terrorists.

    It is terrible that countries armed ISIL in the first place, some countries are still giving weapons to ISIL this needs to be stopped.

    The Kurds in Iraq, Turkey and Syria should be given their own Kurdish state and be included in creating stability in the region.

  47. avatar
    Matthew song

    I think we should just take everyone out of range of ISIS and nuke ISIS. It’ll be faster to nuke them than fight them for another five years.

  48. avatar
    Matthew song

    I think we should just take everyone out of range of ISIS and nuke ISIS. It’ll be faster to nuke them than fight them for another five years. Or drop diseases form planes on to them. Give em Ebola. They’ll die soon

  49. avatar
    Rohan Gupta

    up until now the kurds appear to be a peaceful community of civilized people .And its not a fault arming them .But every coin has two side.There are organizations within the kurds (PKK) which are an impending threat to the world peace.The kurds will continue to be a peaceful organization as far as their demands are fulfilled i.e a separate state for them .So if the coalition cuntries can provide them this permanent solution its no problem sending them arms as Isis is the bigger threat than kurds as of now

  50. avatar
    Ian Fletcher

    The west does not need to send arms to anyone! we have the arms, we have the armed forces to use them, for the sake of world peace, for (whatever) gods (you do or don’t worship) sake, send in our troops to remove them. End this barbarism.

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