When will electric cars become the norm? In Europe, we’re still a long way from that point. Sales of electric cars represented just 1.2 % of all new cars sold in the European Union in 2015. Roughly 0.1% of all cars on European roads are currently electric.

Nevertheless, the numbers are growing fast. In 2016, the number of electric cars in the world surpassed 2 million for the first time. That’s a 100% increase on 2015, when the 1 million mark was reached. True, it’s somewhat less impressive when you consider that there are estimated to be more than billion cars in the world today. Clearly, there’s a long way to go before all cars are electric. But how long?

What do our readers think? One of the big issues when it comes to electric cars is the lack of infrastructure, particularly when it comes to finding a charging point. We had a comment from Alex suggesting it should be a legal requirement for every petrol station to upgrade and add charging stations for electric cars. Would that be a viable option?

To get a response, we spoke to Greg Archer, Director at Clean Vehicles at the European Federation for Transport and Environment (otherwise known as Transport & Environment). What would he make of Alex’s suggestion?

Next up, we had a comment from Nicky who thinks governments should do more to incentivise buying electric cars, through things like tax breaks or subsidies. Does Greg Archer agree? Or does he think the level of government support for electric vehicles is adequate?

To get another perspective, we also put Nicky’s comment to Chris Carroll, Sustainable Transport Project Officer at the European Consumers´ Organisation (BEUC). Does he think governments should offer better tax breaks for buying electric cars?

Finally, we had a comment from Anatilde, who pointed out that people won’t buy electric cars until there are more charging stations to support them. So, who pays for this infrastructure? Governments? The market? A mixture of both?

Should all cars be electric by 2025? Who will pay for the necessary infrastructure upgrades? Should petrol stations be compelled to install charging stations? Should governments do more to incentivise buying electric vehicles? Let us know your thoughts and comments in the form below and we’ll take them to policymakers and experts for their reactions!

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  1. Giulia Noia Dipresa

    Yes, but how will we produce that much energy? Still using Oil and Coal? So what’s the deal? We stop using oil to make fuel but we use it to run power plants to get electricity for our cars?

    • Giulia Noia Dipresa

      Anton Johansson I know, Italy has refused nuclear power plants but we have them on our borders and we take waste from other countries so… I hope that the development of nuclear technologies will be able to cut the waste as much as possible.

    • Patrik Klingborg

      As far as I understand, using electricity from coal and oil for cars is actually far superior to using cars with gasoline and diesel engines in terms of both energy output and environmental damage. Power plants are simply better at producing energy.

    • Anton Ferre

      That’s not true, a petrol car engine has a thermal efficiency between 25 to 50%, for the sake of argument lets take the average, 35%, an electric engine has a, efficiency of about 60% but to that number you have to add the termal efficiency of the oil powerplant, that is between 40 and 50%, taking 45% average we have that 45%*60%=27% wich is slightly less, and that without taking in account loses for energy transport trough the power grid. This are rough estimates but i hope they prove my point.

    • Theodor

      In North and Baltic sea there are wind turbines who have excess electricity and they need to dump it. Charging the batteries with this electricity will give more money to renewable energy and it will make energy production more effiecient due to network balancing

  2. Oli Lau

    No. You will as usual cause a lot of problems to the poorer of our society. They can’t buy a new car each time there is a new idea in the political world.

    • Cyriaque Bouchet

      So give them subsidiary in order for them to do so. We can’t afford to keep polluting the air.

    • Oli Lau

      sure taxes them from on side to give them money on the other side. this is ridiculous. Can you imagine a solution that doesn’t require a new tax?

    • Oli Lau

      Completly false.

    • Oli Lau

      I’m currently writing this on a smartphone powered by Android I don’t remember either of them have received money from the state. That is a biased European point of view that can’t imagine anything without state money.

    • Manolis Eugenio Bournellis

      Well, you’re using the World Wide Web (www) which was invented at CERN, which is, guess what? State funded by EU members… Without that, android wouldn’t even have been a concept. You care about people financialy challenged, which I agree on, yet you’re against State Funded research, which is the only access that scientists that don’t work at huge corporate labs have access to. Non State funded research only looks at profits and gains, without it, every new innovation would only move forward if it was deemed profitable by corporations. I’m against a lot of things when it comes to State, but tachnology funding is clearly not one of them as it promotes innovation, if anything, that’s one sector that the EU should spend more money on.

    • Oli Lau

      First i didn’t say all inventions have been privately funded. I merely pointing out that a lot of inventions have been privately funded. Stating that ALL inventions have been state funded is a gross biased point of view that you can only find in european (aka socialist / social democrat) societies where everything private is suspicious at best, evil at worst.

      If companies are so eager to make money then for sure they will invest where the demand and or the RoI is the highest.

  3. Nando Aidos

    YES! And solve the vehicle replacement problem for the less fortunate! That has to be part of the solution!

  4. Szekely Alexandru

    They should, for a cheaper price, EU should encourage more and more the use of electric cars, I know it already does, but plenty of work is stil needed.

  5. Christofer Catilan

    YES! As long as environmental drawbacks are equal or less severe. This profound dependence on oil is unhealthy in many ways, not least for strategic reasons.

    • Mandravelis Ioannis

      Unfortunately, if the necessary electric power is produced on fossil fuels,the environmental effect will be worse,since the total efficiency is lower.Of course ,the environmental problem will be localized (around the power plants),and the situation will be much better if the additionally needed power will be produced on renewables

  6. Cãlin Rednic

    It would be best, but let’s also be real and have sympathy for those who need to move and still can’t afford an EV. Afterall isn’t their fault that the society was built around the car…

  7. Cyriaque Bouchet

    Yes, absolutely. This change will bring not only cleaner and less noisy cities but also work for the huge investment it represents (creating recharge stations, and electric power plants – green one would be best – and thereafter for maintenance of those infrastructures).

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  9. Zille Vuk

    As long there is no power source that can make your car go 1000km without recharge ..NO

    • PG

      This is the fundamental point , 100 km autonomy is an absolute necessity , and battery technology will have to be without lithium and its polluting and energy intensive production . City dwellers have forgotten that there are many places in Europe , where there is no mains electricity .
      And nothing is being done about the air pollution from the marine sector which is more than vehicles , as this would mean a massive change in business and financial models and also reduce consumption and profits

  10. Simon Farrell

    yes, if you wonder where all the extra power will come from, have a look around and see how many shopping centres factories and stadiums have solar panels fitted. then look how many homes have solar panels fitted. Then consider how much more can be produced by installing larger wind turbines. also don’t think of the electric car as a vehicle but a mobile power station that can move power, for example, from work (powered by green energy) to your home (with solar panels and battery storage) when demand is high then charge up at night when you sleep.

    • Robert Seifert

      the trouble is, that the sun is not shining at night when you sleep. So where does the electricity you use to charge your “clean car” come from?

  11. Julia Hadjikyriacou

    Please get rid of humanities dependence on oil (at least in the EU) to usher in peace on earth (with regards to oil), independence, prosperity, cleaner air and to save the planet.

  12. Michael Šimková

    Ideally, but I think we need to be careful about the batteries. Producing many batteries is not necessarily cheap or clean, and we don’t want another diesel fiasco substituting one problem for another.

    We may need better batteries for electric cars to be truly cleaner. Meanwhile to make such decisions we must take into account the whole manufacturing process and useful life of the car, not only its emissions when new and working well.

    • PG

      The pollution from production and recycling is forgotten by most

  13. Marshall Jones

    Should governments compensate motorists that they persuaded to buy diesel cars at a premium cost?

    • John Knapp

      Hydrogen is pollution free and still uses the old style of petrol engine,… is safe and can produced on demand,… efficient,.. economic electric cars have a ways to go yet,…

    • Lynne Warner

      John still doesn’t answer my question about the millions of diesel cars. Carbon trading perhaps, dump them in Africa or some other poor country.

    • Michael Šimková

      UK will be the future dumping ground for all obsolete European cars. They will need the money after Brexit. Plus it will give the country a nice Cuban-like charm that will help bring in more tourists. ;)

    • Paul X

      @Michael Šimková… au contraire mon ami

      Look who is leading the field in electric cars…

      http://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/electric-car-leaders-laggards

      ….and then look who is the fourth highest importer of their cars (more than the next two EU countries combined I may add)

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/267252/key-automobile-markets-of-bmw-group/

      Looks like all the shiny new electric BMW’s will be coming to the UK whilst all our clapped out trade-ins will be sent back over the channel.. ;-)

    • PG

      Thats not the only problem , garages have difficulty repairing electronics today in cars , all electric will be a totally new problem , who will be able to repair them and at what cost

  14. Robert Struyven

    It’s the wrong debate. When travelling ‘in groups’ we share trains, boats and airplanes. When we go in group to our job we need our very own private container to reach destination.

  15. Manuel Martín Bravo

    The very first reaction is yelling “Yes!” but think it twice. Wouldn’t be better to say instead non-traditional fuel based cars? I mean electricity might not be the single solution and I don’t refer uniquely to biomass or Hydrogen, look around ;)

  16. Medman Vita

    In the 90s I was in Turingia germany and was introduced to an ele tric car which was functional but the banks did not back the makers.. check out www. Treffpunctzukunft.com……. also in the 90s I wanted to import an electric car from china for 10,000 dollars including batteries. Theynwere heavilly taxed and to buy just b the lithium batteries in europe would have costed 10,000 euroes .. please not that zt the time lithium bztteries were only made in china…. so my openion is fuck europe .. europe is for gays trans and muzlims!!!!!!! I say it again FUCK EUROPE,,,,,!!!!!!

  17. Paulius Paždagis

    Oil-less – yes. By 2025, who knows, there may be some other form of effective energy solution for cars.

  18. Elie Awad

    we cant force that , because technology change , what will do with millions of car if the type of the motor change . example : now they made a new type of batteries wich is a rechrged liquid , u stop by u buy a recharged liquid and u pull out the empty for the station to recharge it slowly . we just have to wait for the best technology and change will happens

  19. ironworker

    Not at all, more public transportation should be implemented by 2025. Electric cars are more expensive to be produced and maintained than conventional cars. Sorry, VW , Daimler &co.

    • Theodor

      I think maintenance is cheaper on a electric car. You have less parts on the motor and on transmission

  20. Andrew Potts

    Lol you could not make this up the EU promoting a complete change of car fleet to electric. Keeping the same design model of performance, passenger numbers and size. It is like the car industry wish list for sales for the next 50 years.

  21. Mimi Voiculescu

    Electric cars , yes !The smog in the big cities would be history ,the price of oil will go down, Putin s source of money will go low, very low and peace would be easier to achieve ! So many advantages !

  22. Dimitris Orfanoudis

    No question.. .. Holland and Norway set to 2025 however for the rest of EU will be an extended period of time….

  23. Sérgio Santos

    They should yes, but I don’t think we’ll be ready for it by 2025. But we should be doing everything we can to go electric as soon as possible. It’s a shame we aren’t closer to it yet.

    • PG

      It will be impossible to build are the generation units and distribution network necessary by 2025 , as many places in the UE do not have mains electricity

  24. Jean Charles Branco

    electruic car is menace against petrol industrie. they will tell u only 10years from now will have eletric car, sinc 1970 they say this. its not donable, industrie of oil will not allow to loose buisness just because u like clean energy for free. free energy ,how can someone steal ur money if u use clean energy? not possible this car electric canot work because economic reasons, they need to steal our money when we could drive for free

  25. Olivier Duhamel

    Uniformization of transport modalities is as dangerous as thinking uniformization.
    A transport modalities policy mix must remain. Electric / Oil / Biofuel / hydrogen / Gasoil / Diesel / LPG at least for strategic matters.
    What about the risk of having all the electric cars unusable because of massive solar flares. Electric cars is an answer, an offer, it is not THE answer and must not be the unique answer to transport modalities by 2025…

  26. Laurentiu Paun

    We do not have the necessary infrastructure to recharge electric cars. It is almoust impossible to build by 2025. For the moment the distance with purely electric car is small (except Tesla).in addition Europe will suffer another wave of arabs since their governments can not feed them in absence of the oil export incomes.

  27. catherine benning

    Should all cars be electric by 2025?

    LOL

  28. Achim Willi Flores

    The biggest lie and bullshit of our century !!! Another trick from the corrupt government & criminal industrie to fool the people….don’t believe in that shit … ;-)

  29. Ray Southam

    Well, of course the rich would love to see the rest of us off the road!!!!! Get real!!!

    • Arnout Posthumus

      I would to. We are destroying the planet and since no 1 takes matters in thier own hands, they need to be forced. Apperently we only take some sort of action when are being invaded by people.

  30. Anton Ferre

    I presonally agree that electric cars powered with nuclear power plants is the way to go, even with the problems that nuclear power presents in itself, but there is still a long way to go before its feasible globally in europe or elswhere, and in no way its going to be possible by 2025.

  31. Phanos Levendis

    YES , AS LONG AS THE STATES WILL PROVIDE CHEAP ELECTRICITY AND ENVIRONMENT FRIENDLY PRODUCED !!! ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR ELECTRIC CARS [NOW] IS THE LIVE OF THE BATTERIES AND THEIR HIGH COST …

  32. Jean-michel Blue

    impossible to clear the old vehicles unless we want to create more chaos into a chaotic society . Good luck on that , the deadline is too short .

  33. Simon Sadler

    Not at the projected prices,also batteries are not 100 % efficient charging/discharging,and that energy has to come from somewhere,if you look at the ‘claimed ‘sources of the giant power producers they are nowhere near being ‘Eco ‘.Combustion engine efficiency is getting better and cleaner.What most people want is a not so ‘Posh ‘ small engined electro /fuel propelled vehicle.

  34. Sabin Popescu

    absolutely not!!!
    why don’t people learn history?
    at the beginning of the 20th century the technology for electric cars was way more advanced than for combustion engines. Then the govt. initiated policies to favor the development of combustion engines so the gap wouldn’t be too high.
    And now the same govts. are charging all of us to fund the policies that are supposed to repair the damage. Guess what? 50 years from now they will be charging us to fund the policies to repair the crisis generated by their actual policies…

  35. Auer Bru

    In general yes, electric cars run for much larger mileages than standard gas cars

  36. Mino Álvarez

    Is impossible that for that year all the cars were electric, but, at least, I think that could to be possible that only electric cars can be sold.

  37. Lynda Germon

    NO…. too many fantástic cars around that would be ridículos to try and electrify !

  38. Fábio Vilanova Campos

    where are we all gonna recharge it?
    atm they feel like glorified smartphones with wheels, their mileage is rubbish and don’t forget that all of us either leave on a place where we can charge our car easily nor there are batteries that can recharge in a matter of minutes, the same way that you take a few of them to refill your tank with petrol or diesel.
    also, not all eu nations are producing enough spare energy to keep the demand of a electric car, so if we have to buy electricity from another country, it will only mean that they will be burning fossil fuel for us.

    • Per Lyngemark

      We’re talking 2025, not today. There is an energy boom going on now and we’re just a few years from greening up the grid and have abundance of electricity. Also the charging infrastructure is booming like insane! We had three chargers in Sweden three years ago, now we have 10k and will reach 30k end of next year. Should reach a million by 2025.
      Also cars are getting cheaper, better range and faster charging.
      If you look at last years data to make assumptions for 2025 you will fail

    • Fábio Vilanova Campos

      Not all Europe is as well developed energy wise as Sweden. and if we wanna be self sufficient enough to push electric cars by 2025 we have 8 years to fix our energy producing problems, unless we do so the electric car for everyone will remain a pipe dream.

  39. Laurent Bastings

    No, because, what would be really in it for the following sequence:

    1. Hybrid petrol fueled caes 2. hydrogyn fueled cars, and last but not least 3. electric cars; 4. magnetic levitation pushed – pulled cars, trucks, 5. …

    Why? There will always be a foremost emerging questions to overthink. What is in it for the the utillity of the specifically sequences of elements?

    H20, or separately: H, and O2,…

  40. Maia Alexandrova

    By 2025 they should all be at least hybrid, by 2050 – electric and by 2075 – flying!

  41. Peter Waegemans

    2025 would be quite difficult. But by 2030 driving electric will be cheaper than driving on fuels anyway. By 2035, fuel engines will be out of the market.

  42. Martin Snijder

    hebben nog steed de auto’s niet voor elkaar.er vrees dat ze ook straat beelsd nooit gaan bepalen na brandstof auto.mag openbare vervoersmiddel in de lift.super loop en airdrive is de toekomst

  43. Παυλος Χαραλαμπους

    Yes but Not all of them! The replacement should be gradual in order people who rely on cheap used cars to be able to afford a electric one otherwise people in eastern and southern Europe will be unable to make a living! Since in our counties a personal vehicle is the only way to go to your job is so important that in many cases that the first question that employers ask is ” do you have a vehicle “?

  44. Andrew Potts

    The design model being repeated again and again where performance and load capacity for cars remain the same just show how utterly dump EU sustainability logic is

    • Theodor Paulus

      What do you mean by “again where performance and load capacity for cars remain the same”?

  45. Teresa Silva

    There are many questions on this issue: the price of electricity, the costs of producing more and more electricity, the safety of having electric engines in case of catastrophes that cut us power, what is safety of battery garbage?

    • Theodor Paulus

      batteries can be recycled. The wind turbines have an excess of capacity. The petroleum comes from unstable areas as Middle East Venezuela,Africa the current can be produced in your homeland

  46. Taline Babikian Angelidou

    Yes
    ..without a question!!! Keeps EU countriee out of conflicts related with oil and gas. Better invest all that money into harvesting the sun!

    • Remi Penet

      Unless electricity is made by nuclear power plants

    • Theodor Paulus

      It is no need for coal or nuclear power plants, the wind mills from North and Baltic seas have an excess of energy that they waste it because there is not a demand when they have strong winds. The battery from the cars could store this excess balancing the power grid

  47. Remi Penet

    I think hybrid cars will become the norm. But when electric cars will be as efficient as petrol cars and when electrical terminals wont be that rare, then Electric cars will be hegemonic

  48. Gemma Lahoz Casarramona

    Yes please, along with electricity being produced sustainably and materials being extracted and disposed of responsibly. Thank you.

  49. Theodor

    The main problem is charging time, range and costs. The fuel cost and maintenance are lower in electric cars, and this can offset the initial high costs. I think that foremost the companies who work in a city will be more interested: taxis, delivery companies,public transportation, public utilities. After that the price of vehicles will be low enough for general public.

  50. Miguel Cabrita

    Should all heavy duty trucks and Lorries be electric by 2025, as well as vehicles with refrigeration for food and medicines transportation? The answer is: there is no technology available that will allow an efficient logistics system to supply European cities, villages and towns with goods, without a great increase of vehicles in circulation.

  51. Miguel Cabrita

    Should all heavy duty trucks and Lorries be electric by 2025, as well as vehicles with refrigeration for food and medicines transportation? The answer is: there is no technology available that will allow an efficient logistics system to supply European cities, villages and towns with goods, without a great increase of vehicles in circulation.

    Simply, no!

    • Miguel Cabrita

      …and tractors and dumpers and other machinery for agriculture, construction, road repair, and for transportation of the wings of wind turbines to the place of assembly? No!

  52. Viorika Motoi

    Yes thy should ,is time to lett the petrolio extaccion and a big monster construction of cars to make another caind of cars whit renovables energi!

  53. Val Anderson

    no, i don’t want any car that the government can control when one is behind the wheel

  54. Benjamín José Rekarte Aranguren

    Si al vehículo eléctrico ya.

  55. Παυλος Χαραλαμπους

    Nope not realistic what about the people that can’t afford an expensive new car? Or the ones who have to travel great distances for their jobs? Or what about the construction vehicles? Without them you can’t even install the network for the electric ones! !and what about the areas that the is no network at all or electricity is expensive and unreliable?

  56. Yannick Cornet

    It’s cities that ought to be car free by 2025. The car is still the most energy and space inefficient mode of transport, independently of how it is powered. Plus it kills and maims. Most trips in cities are below 10km. That’s bikeable, if not e-bikeable. Cars simply should not be the norm if we are to become sustainable, sorry.

    17/08/2017 Mark Nieuwenhuijsen, Research Professor in Environmental Epidemiology at the Barcelona Institute for Global Health (ISGlobal), has responded to this comment.

  57. yourboyblacktrump.com

    The country has made an ambitious plan to get all-electric cars on its roads by the year 2025.

  58. Martin van Boven

    Ewww. Muting this group.
    This has nothing to do with debating Europe, and everything with advancing the harmful notion that “Europe” should decide on everything.
    In essence, it’s a mindless pro-EU agitprop group.

    • José Bessa da Silva

      This question is actually one of the few where they didn’t include “europe”, “eu” or “across europe” in a long time…

    • David Moody

      ^ 100% correct, guaranteed.

  59. Patricia Smith

    Has the enviromental impact of all the comments for the new batteris been assessed and balanced agaainst hybrid/other. Remember some one probably on very low wages is now the cobalt mines etc

    • Barbara Szela Lesniak

      10/10 – I wonder how many of those whose answer to the question is ‘yes’ know all pros and cons? I doubt they’ve heard about the cobalt mines in Congo…

    • Patricia Smith

      out of sight out of mind. also inpact of end of life batteries

  60. Antonio Brugarolas

    Will we have enough electricity capacity to feed those million new electric cars? So far we can’t make the migration as we don’t have enough electricity capacity for our current needs and them…

  61. Andrew Potts

    The car needs to be regulated to real conditions. They are designed to big and to fast. They are also replaced long before their useful life is over. Greater regulation is needed to ensure max speed matches average speed. Carry capacity matches user capacity. Working lifetime is stretched to forty years like the airframes. It is in the interests of country’s without a car manufacturing industry to promote repair and maintenance to keep cars on the road , it would mean more jobs in their country rather then manufacturing jobs. At the moment the emissions of manufacture are greater then the emissions of the car during its lifetime.

  62. Tomek Smaga

    No. Making such laws will practically ban mobility for low income people incl. most of Eastern Europe. Even banning the diesel will be a big blow. The solution should be organic by promoting lower costs of new electric/hybrid cars and cheaper maintenance. Also development of infrastructure.

    • Anita Ivan

      I was thinking the same, some people will never be able to afford it (my retired parents included).

  63. Τζινα Πολεμαρχακη

    Absolutely No way ,there are other sources to move a car much healthier than electric power. Germany has already invest many for electric cars so..this is all about,market sales and national income ,nothing more …

  64. José Bessa da Silva

    They should be something other than what they are today by now, not in 2025. Electric, running with water, with hydrogen, whatever. Global warming does not wait until 2025…

    • David Moody

      5 million cars = 50 Drax power stations. Sounds plausible (not).

  65. Jorge Simões

    No !! Electricity cost will be escalated, and even that one o doesn’t have care will pay for the bill!!!

    • Arthur Gustin

      Ahahah I pay 60€ to get a full tank of fuel and i’m able to drive 675 kilometres if I try to spare.

      With an electric, the price on kilometre drops significantly

    • Jorge Simões

      Arthur Gustin now !! But if everyone used electricity, it will Much more expensive!!! Not only for the drivers built also for the users at home!!!

  66. Arthur Gustin

    it’s never going to be the case but if we can reach 40% or 50% without creating blackouts it’s a win

  67. Ivan Burrows

    Great idea, burn more fossil fuels in power stations to provide the energy to power electric cars, not really though that one through have you.

    • Fabrice Bordier

      The aim is also to replace fossil fuel as a source of energy to produce electricity.
      I think electricity will become greener and greener.
      The main problem of electric cars will be the recycling or the batteries and the chemicals they contain.
      What kills me is that there are ways to run cars almost without fuel, and that those cars have been banned and boycotted.
      Panton engine, air compressed engine, even hydrogen and others.
      Lots of oil lobbies are behind this with the benediction of the governments who have no idea how to tax fuels if fuel is no longer necessary

    • Fabrice Bordier

      To answer the question of debating Europe. Of course cars will not be electric in Europe in 2025. But a higher portion will be.
      Majority of cars may be electric in 2040, but I rather see 2060 really as a point of no return for fossil energy.

    • Ivan Burrows

      Fabrice Bordier Windmills and solar panels cannot provide the global output of power needed for all industry, transport and home consumption so you are left with nuclear, is that any better than fossil fuel ?

  68. Joao Yohanan

    Or do it Portugal style Ivan, where 60% of our electricity on average comes from renewable sources! So there is a way.

  69. Kees Van Het Duin

    Nice suggestion. But way to little too late. In Bulgaria, 20.000 (!) people a year die from suffication due to air pollution. Bomb on Toplofikatsya and ban on all polluting ancient cars! Get the Chinese to invest in a solar park in the mountains, the size of 10.000 football fields. Allow them to produce electrical cars here at a profit. The EU will subsidise. Problem solved.

    • Emil Panayotoff

      I don’t see how they will do that in the mountains ? The rest is not a bad idea.

    • Kees Van Het Duin

      Hmm. wherever is free space. So much wasteland between Sofia and Plovdiv. Not or never been used. Such a park, however, is less than 2 hectares. So, if needed, there could be even more of them. Douzens? We have slowly to change the language here though..from Bulgarian to Mandarin. Bags of Yuan will be next. And I know, false protectionism will prevent it from happening. But..where would we be without ambition.

    • Emil Panayotoff

      Hmm Bulgaria and China are very good friends historically. It’s not impossible

    • Kees Van Het Duin

      Within a few years. On Chinese television. Boiko will promote Bulgaria. ‘The first all Mandarin speaking hub in all of Europe. Come and invest now! Reel those European consumers in! We will assist you with all you need!’ (Since now 20.000 Bulgarians a year suffocate and another 25.000,- are moving working and living abroad..Boiko does not have a plan. Like before. It sounds rediculous what I say. But still.

  70. Emanuel Denis

    Are there enough renewable energy sources to produce clean electricity? If the answer is N O , then let the cars run with petrol . We got some electric cars on eu market since 2007 I think , like Opel Ampera , but being priced around 30.000$ who ever will buy it ?

  71. Tzimikas Ilias

    Εάν μας αφήσουν οι φίλοι μας… αυτοί που ελέγχουν τα καύσιμα…

  72. Despina Makrygianny

    Let’s talk about the electric car battery?how much ecological is it?what happens when it needs to be change?where it will be dropped off?

  73. Derek Deighton

    Why pose a question like this when it technically impossible in 7 and a bit years to achieve this?

    • Jarmo Sits

      I think the world or eu has set the goal to 2060, if i’m not mistaken, some countries wanna achieve that earlier, like switzerland or was it denmark? one of these already have like ~34%ish electric cars.

  74. Domenico Galardo

    HELL NOT !

    If electric Car will be affordable and reliable peoples will use it by themselves in a free market system. And even then, those who like to drive a petrol car as hobby or whatever, will be free to do it.

    • Jarmo Sits

      + electric cars mostly suck , good luck convincing people to use electric motorcycles lmao…

      what standards? electricity already has standards. Tesla owners get free electricity for life.. why do you think when charging up your car shoudl be priced differently than current electricity usage? seems like you just wanna pay more lol ? why would you pay for something wich is free ? People like you will agree to pay for oxygen soon too… fucken normies…

    • Björn Eric Ingemar Grahn

      I menat The chargingstations very between brands. Everton usel different plugs like that cellphones in The ord days. They arena totalt ok IF onekligen driver legaly in moust EU countries. To have a var or motorcykel that drives faster than 150 is useless When max speedway amyway is Only 130kmph at The moust.

  75. PG

    Politicians are creating a fragile society that will rely on all, electric , we have seen this week that power will be out in many places in southern US after the storms , then what will happen .
    Governments seem to only think about cities and forget that they have to provide for ALL a country , and in most cases their food and water come from the countryside and without energy there will be none .

    • Miguel Cabrita

      As charging will happen predictably allmost at the same time by evening, when people arrive home from work, the peak of consumption will be much more higher, so the installed capacity for electricity profuction probably needs to be much higher than that.

  76. Andrew Potts

    The big lie about electric cars is two fold 1 the carbon emissions of manufacture are never factored in to the equation of course spread over ten years because more often then not a car is scrapped after that. 2 the design model is flawed a car mostly is driven by one person at an average speed in the 20s KPH and is designed crash at 140kph. Car design should reflect of driving reality rather then false adverts. Continuing wih this model of design is not sustainable. In fact most countries without car factories should move to repair and maintenance of car stock because of the savings on emissions plus more jobs in those countries.

  77. Patricia Smith

    I doubt the impact on those employed down the mines is factored in or the environmental impact of battery disposal

  78. Lynne Warner

    Where are all the petrol and diesel cars going to be scrapped. Where are all the batteries for the new cars going to be scrapped? A question nobody wants to answer. And.. most of the population will be walking as electric cars are out of their price range. But maybe a walking population is easier to handle.???

  79. Doru Beldiman

    In Romania, our priority is to get rid of corruption which is ruining us for more than 27 years! Europe is not helping us in our fight, is helping those corrupts who are leading the country!

  80. Sheila Hounslow

    And where is all this power going to come from ? U.K. Will be in the dark soon anyway as power stations can’t cope. No one wants ugly wind turbines on Their doorstep. No one want nuclear power stations. There are no coal fired ones any more. No one wants water turbines as it upsets the wild life.( they say. The gas line comes from Russia. So upset Russian and he will turn it off. Does no one think about about these things ? Till bury your head in the sand. And drive those electric cars… well for a few miles while the electric charge lasts.

    • Ariano Ângelo

      Do you realise that there are a lot of ways to get clean energy?

    • Sheila Hounslow

      Ariano Ângelo yes, so let them get it

  81. Jez Boulton

    Ok if you have a garage or driveway where it can be charged. Also unless they are solar powered they are just relocating the pollution. Yes though.

  82. Zé Miranda

    Batteries are extremely polutant. Much more so than fossil fuel. The reason why you don’t think about this is because electric cars and solar power are quite rare nowadays, but were they to become the norm by 2025 we would have an environmental catastrophe of epic proportions on our hands.

  83. Yannick Cornet

    What should really be done is shift all those trips that can easily be shifted to active transports first (more than 50% of trips in most cities are below 10km, which is perfectly bikeable or ebikeable, as demonstrated in Copenhagen). Then shift the bulk of the remaining trips to some form of public transport, including car-share and car-pool, all preferably electric. Then finally, switch the remaining trips to electric cars – and yes make sure recycling systems are in place for the batteries. But just changing from one car paradigm to another car paradigm is not a sustainable way forward, sorry, no.

  84. Andrea Martano

    isn’t 2025 is too early? not enough power distribution infrastructure, charging point and available energy. Until nuclear fusion reactor become reality. 2040/2045 is a more realistic timeline. Hidrogen and hibrid petrol/electric will be the mid step.

  85. Miguel Cabrita

    I am not in the industry, but as I know it the breakeven point to a new car built from scratch is in the millions or tens of millions of sold units. So we are expecting that the carmakers take a massive loss on cars newly intruduced plus the electric cars that need to be yet researched, without giant subsidies from the public sector to the manufacturers? Is that it? Will that cost be redeemed how, and how it is going to be socialized?

  86. Panos Kontogiannis

    And who is going to pay for the huge investments in electric power production and distribution facilities?

  87. Doru Istrate

    If the fuckers demanding this are buying me an electric car, then yes. If no, gtfo.

  88. Paweł Kunio

    Definitely! My reasoning isnt based on fake ecology pretenses but rather on putting some oil suppliers out of equation.

    • Răzvan Grigore

      A better question is: there is enough lythium in the world for this?

  89. Vitor F Veiga

    no other way, but not only electric…hydrogen, pressurized air and other technologies. It must be open to all other options other than combustion engine, otherwise there will be a huge battery crisis then…and also allow a transition period for poorer people that can’t afford expensive electric cars…but need to move around for work and take kids to school…

  90. Constantin Schiniotakis

    What’s the cost for recycling batteries, electric motors, transformers and transformer oils ? What’s the impact of these and of the energy used to charge the batteries ?

    • Paolo Gazzola

      Constantin what’s the cost of pollution on Health Care?
      What’s the cost of diseases linked to pollution?

    • Constantin Schiniotakis

      I agree with that. cooling oils for transformers are TOXIC The acids of classic batteries and the metals used for high performance batteries are both toxic and difficult to recycle. So my question is valid and needs an answer

  91. Dino Dragovic

    if the same people who introduce that law and plan the astronomical taxation plans on it buy me one, then yes I think it should (y)

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